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Hugh Mac Dougall <[log in to unmask]>
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The Historical and Statistical Gazetteer of New York State (Syracuse: R.P.
Smith, 1860), p. 289, lists a "Woodwards Hollow" as a hamlet in the Town of
Concord, Erie County. It states:
        "Woodwards Hollow (p.o.) [i.e., a post office] is a hamlet."
There is further information about the town of Concord, but nothing that
seems specially applicable to Woodwards Hollow. This is, of course, a long
way from Gloversville and Fulton County..
        This 1860 book does, however, refer (p. 316) to a "Woodworth Lake" in the
town of Bleecker, which is in Fulton County. There don't seem to have been
any other "woody" places in the county, but it might be worth checking a
large scale county atlas for the period, since not every name gets into the
        My 1845 Gazetteer (Barber and Howe's "Historical Collections....") does
not mention Woodwards Hollow or Woodworth Lake.

Hugh C. MacDougall
James Fenimore Cooper Society
8 Lake Street, Cooperstown, NY 13326-1016
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From: William Ringle <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Woods Hollow & Al Smith
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:43 AM

Can anyone suggest where I might find:

     -- The location, in 1854, of  Wood -- or maybe Wood's or Woods --
Hollow? Evidently it was a community near Gloversville because a
contemporary book and news accounts said a suspect in a crime, captured
there in 1854, was brought to Gloversville for arraignment.

 I tried the NYS Committee on Geographic names. No dice. I looked on modern
topographic maps (in the DeLorme book; I don't have the more detailed
government ones). I intend to try the U. S. Commission on Geographic Names,
but I figured if N. Y. doesn't have it, they probably won't.

    --  A speech or an essay by Gov. Al Smith called "Why Arietta?" He used
Arietta, a sparsely populated Adirondack town, to question why such places
all had to have town governments. My authority for this was former Lt. Gov.
(under Dewey) and Comptroller  Frank C. Moore who was  a great enthusiast
for town government. Moore mentioned it in a speech about 50 years ago but
I've never been able to find the Al Smith original.

                                             Thanks in advance,

                                               William RIngle