I always ask:  OK, what was the second?   Few can answer  that, 
unfortunately. 
 
Christopher Gray 
 
 
In a message dated 8/13/2013 2:34:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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I agree  with Peter:  Claims such as first, oldest, largest, etc. are only 
as good  as the evidence/documentation, but many people are vehemently 
adamant and  won't let that evidence/documentation trump their oral history or 
local  myth."

Clif