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Bearing in mind that the mantua maker in colonial times was a ladies' dressmaker -
could mantilling be a derivation?
Beverly Martin
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> George:
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> May I suggest that the "North First St., Williams Burgh, N. Y." reference in
> your great grandfather's old journal is a street that still exists on what
> residents of the Greenpoint and Williamsburgh section of Brooklyn call the
> "Northside?" Get a good street map of the five boroughs.
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> I suspect the "Greenwich St." location for Charter Bro. Silver Works refers
> to a still existing street on the West side of lower Manhattan. It begins at
> the intersection of Broadway and Vesey St., two blocks west of the southern
> tip of City Hall Park. The street runs north all the way into the Greenwich
> Village section. It ends at Ganesvoort St. (the vicinity of 12th St.).
>
> Since both the Northside in Williamsburgh and the Greenwich Street area in
> lower Manhattan were close to the docks of, respectively, the Hudson and East
> Rivers, perhaps the crafts at which your great grandparents worked was
> directly tied to the shipping trade then in high gear. Could the Mantilling
> mentioned in "my wife worked at Mantilling" not be a company name for the
> place where she worked but instead be a reference to a type of lace work as
> in "mantilla?"
>
> There were no bridges connecting the city of Brooklyn and the city of New
> York back in 1855. So they would have gone by some kind of ferry service for
> the daily commute. At least a half-dozen ferries transported commuters every
> five to two minutes between Brooklyn's Williamsburgh section and Manhattan''s
> East Side in those days.
>
> Thomas McCarthy
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> In a message dated 11/18/99 5:11:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
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> > Hello from a Newbie,
> > I just found an old journal that tells me our great grandfather went
> > from England to New York in 1855.
> > It states that their "first home was in North First St., Williams Burgh, N.
> > Y. I worked at my trade in the firm of Charter Bro. Silver Works,
> Greenwich
> > St., New York, and my wife worked at Mantilling"
> > I would like to find any available information about this location,
> and
> > about the employers.... ... pictures, text , etc. This is my first
> > venture into the New York research area and so would appreciate clues from
> > the old timers in this area.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > George
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