Bearing in mind that the mantua maker in colonial times was a ladies' dressmaker - could mantilling be a derivation? Beverly Martin [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] wrote: > George: > > May I suggest that the "North First St., Williams Burgh, N. Y." reference in > your great grandfather's old journal is a street that still exists on what > residents of the Greenpoint and Williamsburgh section of Brooklyn call the > "Northside?" Get a good street map of the five boroughs. > > I suspect the "Greenwich St." location for Charter Bro. Silver Works refers > to a still existing street on the West side of lower Manhattan. It begins at > the intersection of Broadway and Vesey St., two blocks west of the southern > tip of City Hall Park. The street runs north all the way into the Greenwich > Village section. It ends at Ganesvoort St. (the vicinity of 12th St.). > > Since both the Northside in Williamsburgh and the Greenwich Street area in > lower Manhattan were close to the docks of, respectively, the Hudson and East > Rivers, perhaps the crafts at which your great grandparents worked was > directly tied to the shipping trade then in high gear. Could the Mantilling > mentioned in "my wife worked at Mantilling" not be a company name for the > place where she worked but instead be a reference to a type of lace work as > in "mantilla?" > > There were no bridges connecting the city of Brooklyn and the city of New > York back in 1855. So they would have gone by some kind of ferry service for > the daily commute. At least a half-dozen ferries transported commuters every > five to two minutes between Brooklyn's Williamsburgh section and Manhattan''s > East Side in those days. > > Thomas McCarthy > general secretary > New York Correction History Society > http://www.correctionhistory.org > [log in to unmask] > > NYC Dept. of Correction > director of editorial/communication services > [log in to unmask] > > 212 266 1016 voice > 212 266 1597 fax > > In a message dated 11/18/99 5:11:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > Hello from a Newbie, > > I just found an old journal that tells me our great grandfather went > > from England to New York in 1855. > > It states that their "first home was in North First St., Williams Burgh, N. > > Y. I worked at my trade in the firm of Charter Bro. Silver Works, > Greenwich > > St., New York, and my wife worked at Mantilling" > > I would like to find any available information about this location, > and > > about the employers.... ... pictures, text , etc. This is my first > > venture into the New York research area and so would appreciate clues from > > the old timers in this area. > > > > Thanks, > > George