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Bill Martin <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:22:14 -0500
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Bearing in mind that the mantua maker in colonial times was a ladies' dressmaker -
could mantilling be a derivation?

Beverly Martin
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> George:
> May I suggest that the "North First St., Williams Burgh, N. Y." reference in
> your great grandfather's old journal is a street that still exists on what
> residents of the Greenpoint and Williamsburgh section of Brooklyn call the
> "Northside?"  Get a good street map of the five boroughs.
> I suspect the "Greenwich St." location for Charter Bro.  Silver Works refers
> to a still existing street on the West side of lower Manhattan.  It begins at
> the intersection of Broadway and Vesey St., two blocks west of the southern
> tip of City Hall Park.  The street runs north all the way into the Greenwich
> Village section.  It ends at Ganesvoort St. (the vicinity of 12th St.).
> Since both the Northside in Williamsburgh and the Greenwich Street area in
> lower Manhattan were close to the docks of, respectively, the Hudson and East
> Rivers, perhaps the crafts at which your great grandparents worked was
> directly tied to the shipping trade then in high gear.  Could the Mantilling
> mentioned in "my wife worked at Mantilling" not be a company name for the
> place where she worked but instead be a reference to a type of lace work as
> in "mantilla?"
> There were no bridges connecting the city of Brooklyn and the city of New
> York back in 1855.  So they would have gone by some kind of ferry service for
> the daily commute.  At least a half-dozen ferries transported commuters every
> five to two minutes between Brooklyn's Williamsburgh section and Manhattan''s
> East Side in those days.
> Thomas McCarthy
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> In a message dated 11/18/99 5:11:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> > Hello from a Newbie,
> >      I just found an old journal that tells me our great grandfather went
> > from England to New York in 1855.
> >  It states that their "first home was in North First St., Williams Burgh, N.
> > Y.  I worked at my trade in the firm of Charter Bro. Silver Works,
> Greenwich
> > St., New York, and my wife worked at Mantilling"
> >       I would like to find any available information about this location,
> and
> > about the employers....   ... pictures, text , etc.    This is my first
> > venture into the New York research area and so would appreciate clues from
> > the old timers in this area.
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >      George