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The first water that Hudson named is Gravesend Bay. The Dutch hired
Block to retrace Hudson's travel up river so, perhaps Block named it. I
doubt that the Dutch would have done that!
Nancy
On Apr 12, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Robert Spiegelman wrote:
> It would be grealy appreciated if David Allen could add more detail to
> the
> statement that "The English started calling it the Hudson River at a
> fairly early date as a way of asserting their claims to the area." Is
> there any source or dates you can point to on this. Was Hudson their
> man,
> or a Dutch operative, or England's appropriation of a Dutch operative's
> name? Any light you can shed here is welcome.
> Thank you.
> Robert Spiegelman
> NYC
>
>> One advantage of this phrase is that it allows lazy writers to duck
>> the
>> more
>> difficult question of how these eponymous places got their names.
>> Hudson
>> almost certainly did not name the river after himself. The Dutch
>> used
>> the
>> equivalents of "North River," "River of Orange," or "Great River of
>> New
>> Netherland." The English started calling it the Hudson River at a
>> fairly
>> early date
>> as a way of asserting their claims to the area. It is not known for
>> certain
>> whether Champlain or Block named the geographic features that now
>> bear
>> their
>> names. As I recall, Lake Champlain appears on Champlain's 1632 map
>> of
>> New
>> France, which makes it possible that he named the lake after
>> himself, but
>> he was
>> a modest man, and perhaps he was just going along with somebody
>> else's
>> suggestion. The case of Adriaen Block is also a bit problematic.
>> "Adrian Blox
>> eyland" appears on the 1614 "Adriaen Block Chart," which is a copy
>> of a
>> chart
>> by Cornelis Doetsz that Block apparently modified. It is certainly
>> possible
>> that Block named the island after himself, but the name could have
>> been
>> added
>> by the person who copied the map. Incidentally, Long Island
>> appears on
>> the
>> Block chart as "Matowacks." The Dutch did not start calling Long
>> Island
>> "t'Lange Eylandt" until later.
>>
>> David Allen
>> Encinitas, CA
>>
>>
>>
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