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Edward Knoblauch <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 5 Apr 2007 18:11:29 +0000
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A Google search for 'hudson river "which bears his name"' shows about 10,200 hits, but a search for 'lake champlain "which bears his name"' shows only 693 hits!

The similar phase "that bears his name" shows 17,200 hits for Hudson and only 866 hits for Champlain.

Can we thus conclude that the phrase is relatively not as hackneyed (so more permissible) for Lake Champlain as compared to the Hudson River?
Edward Knoblauch

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From: Nancy Hyden Woodward [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 01:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [NYHIST-L] "which bears his name"

In my book, "East Hampton - a Town and its People". which I wrote inthe present tense, I addressed the worn out phrase this way:
"After (Adriaen) Block spends the winter far up Hudson's river, hediscovers that Manhattoes is on an island, and that the land to itseast is an island, too. He names that one Lange Eylandt,and gives his name to a smaller island near by.'

Nancy Hyden Woodward

On Mar 30, 2007, at 12:07 PM, David Allen wrote:

I am also bothered by this phrase, even though I have beenknown to use it. The problem for writers is that there are not manyalternatives. You can ignore the connection between the place and thename on the assumption that it is obvious. Phrases like "explored thelake that is now named after him" are more awkward. "Eponymous river"sounds phony. None of the choices sound very good to me, although Iagree that it time to give name bearing a rest.

David Allen

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