In a message dated 98-06-08 09:43:53 EDT, you write:

<< While I reside in New York state, I am only about an hour from
 Montreal and the best bagels in North America (sorry NYC) >>

Hah!
You cant just lay a bagle like that in our laps without
supporting evidence - whaddaya mean bagles better than NYC ?

Les hommes qui parle en francais
with a bagle to me hold no sway
with croisante or baguette
they're the best you can get
but for boiled rolls with holes ? - there's no way!

Does anyone have a source for tracing the
native american tribes that lived in
Brooklyn and Rockaway NY ?

Thank you
Michael Pollack