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"Neighbourlie Correspondencye" Relations between New Netherland and New 
England

The New Netherland Project announces its 18th Rensselaerswijck Seminar, a 
one-day conference to held Saturday, September 16, 1995, in the Museum 
the Theater of the Cultural Education Center at the Empire State Plaza in 
Albany, New York. Five speakers will present papers detailing relations 
between New Netherland and New England. The seminar should be of special 
interest to colonial American historians. Registration can be done at the 
door for $25 between 8:30 and 9:00. The conference runs from 9:00 until 
3:30.
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The New York State Archives and Records Administration (SARA)
operates Gopher and World Wide Web services to support access to
information about SARA's holdings, programs and services.  The
Gopher and World Wide Web services contain the full text of
subject guides; information on specific research areas or records
such as genealogy, military records, and probate records; a
current list of local government records available on microfilm
from SARA; on-line access to SARA's on-line public access
catalog, Excelsior; information on recent accessions and
important news from SARA; and much more.

To access the New York State Archives and Records Administration
via Gopher, "point" your gopher client to:

unix6.nysed.gov

to access SARA via the World Wide Web use the following URL:

http://unix6.nysed.gov

For more information on SARA's Internet services contact SARA via
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474-6771. 

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LARRY J. HACKMAN RESEARCH RESIDENCY PROGRAM INTRODUCED
AT THE NEW YORK STATE ARCHIVES

Guidelines and Schedule for 1996 Awards

The New York State Archives and New York State Archives Partnership
Trust announce the availability of awards for qualified applicants to
pursue research using the holdings of the New York State Archives. 
The recently established Larry J. Hackman Research Residency
Program, funded by the New York State Archives Partnership Trust, is
intended to support advanced work in New York State history,
government or public policy.  This year, the program will award a total of
$15,000 for work in the New York State Archives.


Eligibility:  Applicants working on doctoral dissertations and those at the
post-doctoral level are particularly encouraged to apply, but any proposal
for advanced research will be considered.  Projects involving alternative
uses of the Archives, such as background research for multimedia
projects and historical novels, are also eligible.  Topic or area of study
must draw on the holdings of the New York State Archives.  Preference
will be given to projects that have application to enduring public policy
issues, particularly in New York State, and that have a high probability of
publication or other public dissemination.  Other considerations aside,
preference will be given to proposals for research in Archives' holdings
that have been little used or have only recently become available.


The awards:  A total of $15,000 will be available beginning in February
1996 for research to be carried out during 1996.  Two awards of $6,000
each will be made for in-depth research, and two smaller awards of
$1,500 each will be made for shorter research visits.  The awards are
intended to defray costs of travel, living expenses, and other
research-related expenses.


The application process:  Application forms are available from Jill
Rydberg, New York State Archives Partnership Trust, Room 9C49,
Cultural Education Center, Albany, New York 12230; phone: (518)
473-7091, fax: (518) 473-7058, e-mail: [log in to unmask] 
Applications must be postmarked by October 31, 1995.  Proposals will be
reviewed by a panel of scholars and archivists familiar with the State
Archives and its holdings.  Decisions will be made by January 5, 1996.


Requirements:  Award recipients must carry out their research during
the 1996 calendar year; residencies must be completed by December 31,
1996.  At the end of the residency, awardees are expected to submit a
written report on the research or a draft of the written product and a
statement of publication plans or other public dissemination.  Residents
are expected to make one public presentation in New York State on the
results of the project.



Information about the holdings of the New York State Archives:  It is
recommended that potential applicants contact the Archives Public
Services staff before completing the application to discuss their
research topic and the records that they propose to use.  Contact Dr.
James D. Folts at (518) 474-8955 or e-mail at [log in to unmask] 
Information on the holdings of the New York State Archives is available
in a published "Guide to Records in the New York State Archives" and in
finding aids on specific topics or on the records of particular agencies. 
Contact the Archives for a list of publications.  The published guide to the
Archives, the computerized catalog of record series descriptions, and
selected topical finding aids are available on-line at:
gopher://unix6.nysed.gov  or http://unix6.nysed.gov.

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Conference on New York State History


June 7-8, 1996
SUNY College at New Paltz


Call for Papers


          Individual paper abstracts, panel proposals, and other
program suggestions are now invited for the 1996 conference at
New Paltz.  Presentations may consider any aspect of the history
of New York over the past 400 years.  Diverse theoretical
perspectives and innovative methodological approaches are
welcomed.  The deadline for proposals is December 31, 1995.

          The Conference on New York State History is an annual
meeting of academic and public historians, publishers, educators,
and general students of history who come together to discuss
topics and issues related to the people of New York State in
historical perspective and to share information and ideas
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services.  Ten presentation sessions plus a keynote address
permit more than fifty individuals to take part in the formal
program.  Special consideration is accorded first-time and
graduate student presenters.  The conference is organized by
staff members from Cornell University, the New York State
Historical Association, and the State Education Department's
Office of Cultural Education.  The 1996 conference is hosted by
the Hudson Valley Study Center at SUNY New Paltz.

       Interested parties are encouraged to discuss proposals and
any conference-related ideas with the conference organizers who
are David Brumberg of Cornell University, Wendell Tripp of the
New York State Historical Association, and Stefan Bielinski of
the New York State Museum - the conference coordinator.  A larger
program committee will be convened to consider proposals at a
later date.  

	A proposal must include paper and/or session titles, names
and phone numbers of all participants, and a one or two page
description of each presentation. Special scheduling and
equipment requests also should be noted.  All program
participants are expected to register for the conference. 
Address proposals to Stefan Bielinski, Conference on New York
State History, 3093 Cultural Education Center, Albany, NY 12230,
(518) 474-6917.  Participants will be notified by mid-February
1996.



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I am trying to find information on a legal case - Lochner versus New York
State - which deals with bakers in New York State.

Tom Vogt


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     A list on the History of the Empire State!  This is great and kudos 
to the originators/owners.  Now, a question I have had for years but had 
no one to ask...

In the 1948 Rand McNally Handy Railroad Atlas of the U.S., there is a 
railroad, the good old D&H, which runs from Saratoga Springs roughly 
north to North Creek.  There the line ends (at least on the map).  In the 
1988 version of the same Atlas, there is U.S.G. trackage which runs north 
of North Creek to Tahawus.  What is (or was) going on in Tahawus?  Mining 
of some sort probably.  I thinks the tracks on this line must be in 
disrepair these days, as about a year ago I crossed them near North Creek.

A second question.  Re the history of lumbering in the North Country...  
Are there any good books which cover the subject?  I saw one advertised 
named something like "Jobs, Jobbers, and Kings," and want to purchase a 
copy.  Lumbering must have been or still is a key industry in parts of 
New York.  Was, as in parts of New England, most of the forests in the 
Adirondacks cut at one point?

Hope these are good questions for the list and look forward to additional 
discussion.

Bob Underwood

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From: KEVIN MCCOY <[log in to unmask]>

This message is being posted to a couple of lists.  Sorry for any 
duplication.

This week I received a disturbing message the Condist listerv (a
conservation listserv).  Every non-Administrative employee of the
NEH's Division of Preservation and Access are getting
"Certificates of Expected Separation" due to expected budget cuts
in the '96 Fiscal Year.  In the last five years institutions and
individuals in New York have received $91,395,585 in grants from
the NEH. Much of this money was used by libraries to preserve
valuable historical resources which were disintegrating.  Without
this money, there would be materials which would be lost forever.
 
The bill to fund the NEH is called H.R. 1977, the FY96 Interior
Appropriations Bill. The Senate version of H.R. 1977 would fund
the NEH at $110 million for the 1996 fiscal year, and includes no
phase-out language.  The House-passed version would fund NEH at
$99 million, and assumes a three-year phase-out for both
Endowments.  It is important to let your legislators know that
they should support the Senate version of H.R. 1977.  If you have
time it would also be beneficial to ask the House and Senate
conferees to support the Senate version of H.R. 1977.  Below is a
list of likely conferees.  
 
HOUSE: Rep. Ralph Regula (House Subcommittee Chair) (R-OH); Rep.
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Rep. George Nethercutt (R-WA);  Rep. Jim Bunn (R-OR); Rep. Robert
Livingston (R-LA); Rep. Sidney Yates (D-IL); Rep. Norm Dicks (D-
WA); Rep. Tom Bevill (D-AL); Rep. David Skaggs
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SENATE: Sen. Slade Gorton (R-WA); Sen. Mark Hatfield (R-OR); Sen.
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Kevin McCoy
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I  must give credit to my husband, Phil Miller for this answer re: the railroad
north of North Creek:

The trackage north of North Creek was built in 1947 or 48 (not sure
which--maybe even '46), and it was built because of mining operations at
Tahawus.  At Tahawus, the National Lead Co. mined taconite, a black substance
which makes white pigment.  The tracks were allowed to be built, despite the
forever wild clause of the NYS Constitution, for reasons of national security. 
This was right after WWII and right before the Korean War, remember.  White
paint for national security (I asked )?  Something to do with ships, maybe???

The line was built by the National Lead Co. but it was considered part of the
D&H.  The tracks may look like they are in disrepair, but they are only rusty.
As far as the rails go, they are in excellent condition.  The ties may need a
little repair, but the ballast is very good -- was really good quality to begin
with.  

The last train ran in 1987 or 88, when part of the mine closed.  The mine is
still operating, but now trucks are used.

If you are interested in any further information, contact me at:
[log in to unmask] and I will ask Phil.... he knows tons of stuff about Adirondack
Railroads.

Kathy Miller
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Rochester NY

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Does anybody know of a good source of information on women's roles in the
underground railroad in New York State? I already know about Harriet
Tubman. I'm interested in knowing about whether there were women conductors
or what role women may have played. Thank you in advance.


Barbara Taylor
Original Cataloger
340 Myron Taylor Hall
Cornell University Law Library
Ithaca, NY 14853

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I would like to have information on the origin of the name Smithtown.  When
it was founded and who the Smiths were it was named after.

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According to Gordon's Gazetteer, 1836;
     Smithtown (i'm assuming you mean the one in Suffolk County)
was presented by the Montauk sachem, Wyandance, to Lyon Gardiner,
who sold it Richard Smith, to whom it was confirmed by the
Nissaquag sachem. 
     No date given but I assume the 17th C.

But, in NY, every county has a county historian who is generally
reachable through the County Clerk.  In this case - Suffolk
County Clerk's Office, County Center 310 Center Drive, Riverhead,
NY 11901-3392

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Bob Underwood...

   You asked about books on history of lumbering in the north country.  I 
have a softcover book, "Lumberjacks and Rivermen in the Central Adirondacks, 
1850-1950" by Harold K. Hochschild, published by the Adirondack Museum at 
Blue Mountain Lake, NY, in 1962.  It is a relatively short work, 88 pages, 
but lots of photos and couple of maps.

   Table of Contents Entries are:
       Glen Falls Invades Township 34
       The Lumbermen at the Eckford Lakes
       Forest Free-for-All
       The Logger's Calendar
       The Banking Ground
       The Drive
       The Men
       The Raquette Holds its Own Against the Hudson
       Epilogue
       Appendices
          Nineteenth Century Logging Practices
          Cutting and Peeling
          Skidding
          Bobbing
          The Two-Sled Draw
          Glossary of Logging Terms
          The Decline of Adriondack Logging
          Articles of Agreement for Driving Logs on the Hudson River
             and its Tributaries, March 29, 1862.

   This is probably not the definitive treatise on the subject, but I 
thought that the table of contents might help you decide if it was worth 
pursuing.  You could probably get a copy by contacting the Adirondack Museum 
at Blue Mountain Lake.


George Peek
in Liverpool, NY
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Hi!  Looking forward to enjoying the list.

If there is anyone on the list from or associated with, friends of, etc etc
of the following folks, organizations, etc. sure would love to have a note
from you, addressed to me, not the list.  thanks.   [log in to unmask]

Anyone with, near, associated etc:

Clayton NY
The Shipyard Museum
Alex Bay
Grindstone Island
Wellesley Island
Cherry Island
Alex Bay
Lake George
Antique and Classic Boat Soc.
old wooden boat owners, restorers, etc
Silver Bay
Adirondack Museum at Blue Mtn.
Gar Wood Society
Antique Outboard Motor Club
live along the River between Clayton and Alex Bay
steamboaters
Hackercraft fans

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>I would like to have information on the origin of the name Smithtown.  When
>it was founded and who the Smiths were it was named after.

Smithtown has a pretty good Long Island History Room and the Librarian is
both extremely helpful and knowledgeable.   If you are in the area, try there
first. 
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We are seeking historical New York data regarding the mode of
transportation immigrants could have utilized to travel east from the port
of Boston.  We have been told that they would have to travel to New York
City to make connections by rail to western destinations.  Is this true?
Could they have avoided New York City by traveling through upper New York
State directly west?

If immigrants had intended to settle in the bordering eastern states, one
would assume that their mode of transportation could have been road
vehicles, water, or railroad, especially if they arrived at New York.  But
for those travelers who arrived in America in the year 1880 at Boston, with
the intent of immediate travel to Nebraska, ....how would it have been
accomplished?

Specifically, in May of 1880, what rail lines existed or other modes of
transportation existed that would have been available to answer this
question?
Thank you for all information.

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 > Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:06:32 -0400
 > From: [log in to unmask] (Barbara Taylor)
 > To: [log in to unmask]
 >
 > Does anybody know of a good source of information on women's roles in
 > the underground railroad in New York State? I already know about Harriet
 > Tubman. I'm interested in knowing about whether there were women
 > conductors or what role women may have played. Thank you in advance.

Barbara,

I did a Lycos search for the words "underground railroad." Below are the first 

twenty hits.

Good luck,
Orville Bullitt

LYCOS SEARCH: UNDERGROUND RAILROAD

   Load average: 1.43: Lycos Sept. 5, 1995 catalog, 6774568 unique URLs
   (see Lycos News)   Best Selection - Lowest Prices - Internet Shopping
Network
_________________________________________________________________

   Found 8867 documents matching at least one search term.

   Found 41 matching words (number of documents): underground(6584),
   railroad(2931), ...
_________________________________________________________________

   1.[score 1.0000 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/home.htm

last fetched:06-Jul-95
   file date:07-May-95
   bytes:1592
   links:11

   title:hortoc

   outline:The UndergroundRailroadin Rochester, New York

   keys:railroadunderground

excerpt:hortoc The UndergroundRailroadin Rochester, New York
   History of the UndergroundRailroad* Slavery * The Fugitive Slave Act
   * Abolitionists and the Establishment of the UndergroundRailroad*
   Function of the UndergroundRailroad* How the Slaves Were Transported
_________________________________________________________________

   2.[score 0.9394 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.nando.net/ncd/week5/free4.html

last fetched:07-Apr-95

   bytes:8244
   links:2

   title:North Carolina Discoveries

   outline:The UndergroundRailroad

keys:railroadunderground

excerpt:North Carolina Discoveries The UndergroundRailroadSince it
   was never noted much in national histories or texts, the fact that
   some 50,000 North Carolinians left the state and moved to Ohio or
   Indian...
_________________________________________________________________

   3.[score 0.9095 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor11.html
descriptions:
UndergroundRailroadStations in Rochester
_________________________________________________________________

   4.[score 0.9078 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.smartdocs.com/biblio_mail/1641.html
descriptions:
WTB: Civil War: UndergroundRailroad

_________________________________________________________________

   5.[score 0.9078 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor6.html
descriptions:
Location of UndergroundRailroadStations

_________________________________________________________________

   6.[score 0.9071 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor4.html
descriptions:
Function of the UndergroundRailroad
_________________________________________________________________

   7.[score 0.9064 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor9.html
descriptions:
Frederick Douglass and the UndergroundRailroad

_________________________________________________________________

   8.[score 0.9058 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor8.html
descriptions:
Rochester's Role in the UndergroundRailroad

_________________________________________________________________

   9.[score 0.9053 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor10.html
descriptions:
Rochesterians' Support and Participation in the UndergroundRailroad
_________________________________________________________________

   10.[score 0.9053 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor3.html
descriptions:
   Abolitionists and the Establishment of the UndergroundRailroad

Next 10 hits

Lycos 1.5 04-Sep-95 / 23-Sep-95 / [log in to unmask]

LYCOS SEARCH: UNDERGROUND RAILROAD

   Load average: 1.44: Lycos Sept. 5, 1995 catalog, 6774568 unique URLs
   (see Lycos News)   Bring Lycos home with CyberSearch
_________________________________________________________________

   Found 8867 documents matching at least one search term.
   Printing the next 10 of 8867 documents with at least scores of 0.010.

   Found 41 matching words (number of documents): underground(6584),
   railroad(2931), ...
_________________________________________________________________

   11.[score 0.9048 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor7.html
descriptions:
How Many Slaves Were Helped by the UndergroundRailroad
_________________________________________________________________

   12.[score 0.9014 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0]
   http://press-gopher.uchicago.edu:70/CGI/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/99/south_car
/92016843.ctl
descriptions:
Buckmaster, Henrietta: Let My People Go: The Story of the Underground
Railroadand the Growth of the Abolition Movement
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   13.[score 0.6763 2 of 2 terms]
   http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bowdidge/railroad/rail-maps.html

last fetched:01-Sep-95
   file date:03-Jun-95
   bytes:4619
   links:26

   title:RailroadMaps

   keys:railroadrailroadsunderground

excerpt:RailroadMaps Click here to return to the home page of
   Railroad-related Internet resources. Some of the following files are
   available for anonymous ftp from cs.ucsd.edu in the directory
   pub/bowdidge. Also, check out Dmitry Zinoviev's RailroadMaps from All
   the Globe page for additional maps. There's a London Undergroundmap
   available through the Wide-World Web at
   http://web.cs.city.ac.uk/london/travel/underground/map?central . Can
   you find the London Transport Museum page on the same server? Loren
   Petrich ( [log in to unmask] ) has created many maps of rail transit
   systems. He now has an official storage site for the transit maps .
   Some of the
_________________________________________________________________

   14.[score 0.6529 2 of 2 terms]
   http://fatty.law.cornell.edu/uscode/43/index.html

last fetched:04-Jul-95
   file date:02-Feb-95
   bytes:6660
   links:5

   title:43 USC TITLE 43 (1993)

   keys:railroadsrailroadunderground

excerpt:43 USC TITLE 43 (1993) * UNITED STATES CODE * TITLE 43 Search
   this title TITLE 43 - PUBLIC LANDS * Chapt. 1 . Bureau of Land
   Management * Chapt. 2 . United States Geological Survey * Chapt. 3 .
   Surveys * Chapt. 4 . District Land Offices 5 Land Districts * Chapt. 6
   . Withdrawal from Settlement, Location, Sale, or Entry * Chapt. 7 .
   Homesteads * Chapt. 8 . Timber and Stone Lands (Repealed) * Chapt. 8A
   . Grazing Lands * Chapt. 9 . Desert-Land Entries * Chapt. 10 .
   Underground-Water Reclamation Grants (Repealed) * Chapt. 11 .
   Discovery, Development, and Marking of Water Holes, etc., by
   Government * Chapt. 11A . Board on Geographic Names * Chapt. 12

_________________________________________________________________

   15.[score 0.6503 2 of 2 terms]
   http://www.cit.state.vt.us/vtlife/video.htm

last fetched:11-Jul-95
   file date:09-Jun-95
   bytes:2321
   links:3

   keys:railroadsrailroadunderground

excerpt:Vermont: A Video Tour Travel through Vermont from your easy
   chair... Vermont: A Video Tour Start with the splendid natural beauty
   of Vermont; add the farms, the food, the fairs, and the folk arts; go
   skiing and fishing; attend a hot air balloon festival, visit a famous
   inn, see the classic rural villages and covered bridges -- and you've
   still only experienced part of this great armchair
_________________________________________________________________

   16.[score 0.6495 2 of 2 terms]
   http://www.cybermalls.com/cymont/vtlife/video.htm

   last fetched:05-Jun-95
   file date:04-Mar-95
   bytes:2925
   links:8

   title:Vermont: A Video Tour

   keys:railroadsrailroadunderground

excerpt:Vermont: A Video Tour Travel through Vermont from your easy
   chair... Vermont: A Video Tour Start with the splendid natural beauty
   of Vermont; add the farms, the food, the fairs, and the folk arts; go
   skiing and fishing; attend a hot air balloon festival, visit a famous
   inn, see the classic rural villages and covered bridges -- and you've
   still only experienced part of this great armchair tour. Because what
   makes this 60-minute video particularly interesting are the Vermonters
   you meet

_________________________________________________________________

   17.[score 0.4923 2 of 2 terms]
   http://www.abag.ca.gov/san_carlos/econdev/prog1194.html

last fetched:22-Aug-95
   bytes:5072

   title:We're Making Progress - November, 1994

   outline:We're Making Progress Progress Report Howard Avenue Grade
   Separation Howard Avenue is now closed to east-west traffic as
   theoverpass is constructed. It is expected to reopenby May, 1995.
   Brittan Avenue

   keys:undergroundingofundergroundingrailroad

excerpt:We're Making Progress - November, 1994 We're Making Progress

  Arrow keys: Up and Down to move. Right to follow a link; Left to go back.
 H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list
--More--  This is a searchable index.  Use 's' to 

searchhttp://www.abag.ca.gov/san_carlos/econdev/prog1194.htmlLycos search: 

underground railroad (p10 of 16)
   November 23, 1994 There are few businesses and residents that have not
   beenaffected or inconvenienced by the Howard and Brittan
   AvenueGrade... Produced by the San Carlos Chamber of Commerce for the
   San Carlos Redevelopment Agency San Carlos Chamber of Commerce 1560
   Laurel Street San Carlos, CA 94070-3018 Phone: (415) 593-1068 Fax:
   (415) 593-9108 Internet E-Mail: [log in to unmask] Internet Web
   Server: http://www.abag.ca.gov/san_carlos/index.html San Carlos
   Redevelopment Agency 666 Elm Street San Carlos, CA 94070-3085 Phone:
   (415) 802-4209 Fax: (415) 595-2044 Internet E-Mail: scarlos

_________________________________________________________________

   18.[score 0.4923 2 of 2 terms]
   http://198.31.87.5/abag/local_gov/city/san_carlos/econdev/prog1194.html

   last fetched:04-Jun-95
   bytes:5072

   title:We're Making Progress - November, 1994

   outline:We're Making Progress Progress Report Howard Avenue Grade
   Separation Howard Avenue is now closed to east-west traffic as
   theoverpass is constructed. It is expected to reopenby May, 1995.
   Brittan Avenue

   keys:undergroundingofundergroundingrailroad

excerpt:We're Making Progress - November, 1994 We're Making Progress
   November 23, 1994 There are few businesses and residents that have not
   beenaffected or inconvenienced by the Howard and Brittan
   AvenueGrade... Produced by the San Carlos Chamber of Commerce for the
   San Carlos Redevelopment Agency San Carlos Chamber of Commerce 1560
   Laurel Street San Carlos, CA 94070-3018 Phone: (415) 593-1068 Fax:
   (415) 593-9108 Internet E-Mail: [log in to unmask] Internet Web
   Server: http://www.abag.ca.gov/san_carlos/index.html San Carlos
   Redevelopment Agency 666 Elm Street San Carlos, CA 94070-3085 Phone:
   (415) 802-4209 Fax: (415) 595-2044 Internet E-Mail: scarlos

_________________________________________________________________

   19.[score 0.4919 2 of 2 terms] http://www.ajc.com/atl/uground.htm

last fetched:10-Jul-95
   file date:06-May-95
   bytes:3443
   links:5

   title:UndergroundAtlanta

   outline:UndergroundAtlanta

  Arrow keys: Up and Down to move. Right to follow a link; Left to go back.
 H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list
--More--  This is a searchable index.  Use 's' to 

searchhttp://www.ajc.com/atl/uground.htmLycos search: underground railroad (p13


of 16) keys:undergroundrailroad

excerpt:UndergroundAtlanta Kenny's Alley in UndergroundAtlanta is a
   mix of restaurants and music clubs. UndergroundAtlanta 50 Upper
   Alabama Street, Downtown. 523-2311 Underground, nestled along the
   railroadtracks where Atlanta was born, is a popular shopping,
   dining and entertainment district in the heart of Downtown. With its
   brick streets and historic touches, Undergroundgrew up around the
   bridges and viaducts the city built early in this century to carry
   traffic above those busy rail lines. Operating hours: 10 a.m. until
   9:30 p.m. Monday through Saturday and noon until
   descriptions: UndergroundAtlanta
_________________________________________________________________

   20.[score 0.4615 2 of 2 terms]
   http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~brennan/rails/disused.underground.html

last fetched:18-Jun-95
   file date:04-May-95
   bytes:36034

   title:Abandoned Subway Stations

   outline:ABANDONED SUBWAY STATIONS Disused or Unused Underground
Railway Stations of the New York Area Station name [Location]
   [Brooklyn] station [Manhattan] 125th Street [Manhattan] 59th Street
   [Manhattan] 72d

   keys:railroadunderground

excerpt:Abandoned Subway Stations ABANDONED SUBWAY STATIONS Disused
   or Unused UndergroundRailway Stations of the New York Area This is a
   complete inventory of existing undergroundstations in the New York
   area that are not in use. It includes parts of stations not in use, if
   they are large areas like whole platforms or levels, but not small
   areas like individual entrances or passageways (nor faces of
   platforms). Dates "open" refer to passenger service. The listing is in
   order of dates closed. Scheme: Station name [Location] *Original
   system name. *Open: dates, or else date built. *Remains: What is there
   now, usually tracks and platforms. *Best view:
   descriptions:
Abandoned NYC Subway Stations

** That All **
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My original posting had an error that I wish to correct.  We are seeking
modes of travel WEST from Boston, not East.  Sorry for the typo.  Keith
Eriksen


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Linda :  I do know that Smithtown is named after the man who rode a bull
around a certain parcel of land in a required amount of time to own that
land.  The statue of a bull is found at crossroads in Smithtown to
commemorate that deed.  Why there is not a statue of the man I don't know.
I also do not know how true the above story is.   I lived in Smithtown and
the general area for a few years.    Barbara

Barbara J. Lauber
110A Olin Library
Central Technical Services
Cornell University
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Hi,

I am doing a research paper on the history of blind people in America for a
college History class.  i was wondering if anyone had any info on the
history of the blind population in NY spanning the years 1642 - 1876.  Most
all the info I can find span the nineteen hundreds and I can't use it.  any
advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

cathy

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Thanks for the info.  It is a legend in our family that one of our
relatives was the Smith that rode the bull.  I am just not sure of the time
period.  If you could give me the approx. date I could then see if it fits
any of the Smith men I have.

Linda
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>Linda :  I do know that Smithtown is named after the man who rode a bull
>around a certain parcel of land in a required amount of time to own that
>land.  The statue of a bull is found at crossroads in Smithtown to
>commemorate that deed.  Why there is not a statue of the man I don't know.
>I also do not know how true the above story is.   I lived in Smithtown and
>the general area for a few years.    Barbara
>
>Barbara J. Lauber
>110A Olin Library
>Central Technical Services
>Cornell University
>Ithaca, New York 14853-5301
>607 255-3930
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In early 1829, the Seneca chief Red Jacket made several public addresses
in New York City, Boston, Albany and perhaps elsewhere. On at least one
occasion, he made a speech comparing Andrew Jackson and George Washington,
to the detriment of Jackson, who had just become President. I am looking
for the text of the speech or any reference that might provide some clue
to the content.

George Odell's ANNALS OF THE NEW YORK STAGE (1928), has Red Jacket
appearing at the American Museum on Jan. 19th and March 3rd, at the
Park, in late January, and early March, and again at the American
Museum, after visiting Boston, on March 27th.

Between January and March, Red Jacket visited Washington to meet
President Andrew Jackson. I can't verify that he in fact saw Jackson,
but he did visit with outgoing President J.Q. Adams on Feb. 1st.
According to Odell, RJ was to talk about his meeting with Jackson
at the Park Theatre on March 3rd. RJ's biographer William L. Stone
refers to a speech by Red Jacket against Jackson delivered in
Albany, which may have been at his appearance at the Albany Museum
announced in ALBANY ARGUS of April 29, 1829.

I would be very interested to know what RJ said about Jackson? Any
ideas where to look? Are there indexes to the NY City press of that
time? I've looked though weekly NY SPECTATOR-- edited by Wm. Stone-
for early 1829, but didn't find any details of RJ's speeches.

Christopher Densmore
University Archives, State University of New York at Buffalo
420 Capen Hall, Buffalo, NY  14260-2200
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A Family History Fair will be held in NYC on 15 October 1995 at
NYU's Loeb Student Center as part of New York Archives Week.  The
Fair includes a large number of genealogy workshops as well as
exhibits and vendors.  Further information can be obtained at
(212) 415 - 5547.

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I know that State Records were kept of all those that were in the Civil War.
Anyone know if any State Records are available, and how to request copies of
them, for those who served in World War I. I am looking for an uncle, John
Kolb, who enlisted from Brooklyn.  I am writing to the Military Records
Center in St. Louis, but they want to know what unit he served in. That's
what I'm trying to find out.   Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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I don't know what state records there are relating to World War I.  The
National Archives--Northeast Region, 201 Varick Street, New York, NY
10014 has World War I draft registration cards for New York State and
New Jersey.  These cards are for all males, age like 18 to 45, ca. 1917. 
They do not show any military service information.  They do show name
of next of kin, address, occupation, date and place of birth.  

>>> <[log in to unmask]> 09/26/95 09:47am >>>
I know that State Records were kept of all those that were in the Civil
War.
Anyone know if any State Records are available, and how to request
copies of them, for those who served in World War I. I am looking for an
uncle, John
Kolb, who enlisted from Brooklyn.  I am writing to the Military Records
Center in St. Louis, but they want to know what unit he served in. That's
what I'm trying to find out.   Any help or suggestions would be
appreciated.

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In doing some genealogy research, I came across this listing at the
start of the 1870 census for Albany.  Since the records were microfilms
of handwritten documents, I apologize if I misread any of the entries -
one newspaper appeared to be the Fire Blater.  Now I know this makes no
sense, but the handwriting was so difficult to read that I couldn't
figure it out.  Can anyone corroborate this listing of newspapers in
circulation in Albany county in 1870?


Newspapers from 1870 Federal Census, Albany NY

Name                           Type               schedule
       circulation
--------------------------------
Albany Argus            Pol&News        Daily
4700
Albany Arugs            Pol&News     semiweekly                   3300
Albany Argus            Pol&News       weekly
9000
Evening Post            Pol&News         daily
1500
Evening Journal        Pol&News       daily
5500
Evening Journal       Pol&News        daily
19000
Knickerbocker         Pol&News        daily
2000
Express                   Pol&News        daily
 6000
Catholic Chronicle   Religous         weekly
500
Cultivation            Agrigulture       weekly
15000
Fire Blater(?)          Pol&News        weekly
500
Albany Times          Pol&News         daily
1000
Albany Law Journal Law                 monthly
500
Cohoes Cataract      Pol&News         weekly                        800
West Troy Democrat Pol&News weekly 900
Coeyman's Gazette Pol&News weekly 600


Also, are all of these newspapers available in microfilm format?


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> Fire Blater.

If I remember my high school German of 55 years ago, Blatter with an ulaut
over the a was the word for nespaper.  Bet Fire is something else  maybe
Der.  Germanic script is miserable.
David J. Sencer                               1097 Mason Woods Dr.
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In a message dated 95-09-26 10:36:19 EDT, you write:

>but they want to know what unit he served in. That's
>what I'm trying to find out.

WHY do you think they asked you?  So that they would have the right answer to
give you!!
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In a message dated 95-09-26 02:47:08 EDT, you write:

>history of the blind population in NY spanning the years 1642 - 1876.

Not a whole lot happening regarding the blind in the US in those years -- not
a whole lot of US in 1642.  The first school for the blind didn't happen
until 1829.  Nothing really of much import between the invention of eye
glasses in 1285 by Alessandro de Spina and the invention of bifocals by Ben
Franklin in 1784.  John Dollard came up with the achromatic lens in 1758,
Braille improved the code for the blind in 1837, and Herman von Helmholtz
came up with the opthmalocscope in 1851.

In the early 1830 the Perkins School for the Blind in Waterton, Mass, the New
York Institute for Special Education in the Bronx, and the Overbrook School
for the Blind in Philadelphia -- Bala Cynwyd, I think, really.

Nothing there you probably haven't already found long ago.  Sorry.

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> 
> We are seeking historical New York data regarding the mode of
> transportation immigrants could have utilized to travel east from the port
> of Boston.  We have been told that they would have to travel to New York
> City to make connections by rail to western destinations.  Is this true?
> Could they have avoided New York City by traveling through upper New York
> State directly west?

     The Boston & Albany (B&A) was the result of two railroads joining in 
1867, the Boston & Worcester and the Western Railroad.  But apparently as 
early as 1840, tracks were open from Boston to Rensselaer, on the east side of
 the 
Hudson River, adjacent to Albany.  From Albany, one could easily go by 
train to Chicago, and then farther west.  

By the late 1860's, RR companies such as Union Pacific were actively involved
 in trying to bring immigrants 
from Europe to Nebraska.  In 1878, The Union Pacific was still pushing 
immigration to Nebraska, linked to land sales and of course arranging for 
transporation to get there, there were reportedly 100,000 "newcomers" in 
Nebraska just that year.  Agents worked throughout Europe looking for 
settlers, literature was printed in various languages.

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The NY State Archives has the closest thing left to WWI service
records.  They are the Abstracts of WWI Military Service(Army,
Navy and Marine Corps) and the Archives will search them.  Simply
request a War Service Records Search form from NYSARA, Room
11D40, Cultural Education Center, Albany NY 12230.

There is an individual card for each person who served, including
a large number of Army nurses and Navy yeoman(female) and nurses. 
The information contained is; name, serial /service number,
designation of "white" or "colored", organizations served in,
dates of assignments and transfers, place and date of
enlistment/induction; place of birth; dates overseas, wounds
received, date of separation, percent disability.  For those who
died in service, date, place and next of kin.  In many cases
decorations and awards are also given.

These records were created by the state in the 1920's and the 
Federal records from which they were abstracted burned in 1973.

Bill Evans, NYSARA

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Newspapers for Albany County are listed in various newspaper 
bibliographies such as C.S. Brigham's, Gregory's and other works. The New 
York State Newspaper Project in the State Library has the most 
complete information on newspapers published in New York State. You may 
want to check J.H. French's *Gazetteer of the State of New York*, 1860, 
which has a list of Albany city newspapers from the earliest to 1860; a 
later edition of the *Gazetteer*, 1872, compiled by Franklin B. Hough, has 
an updated list of the newspapers as of that date. Good luck.

James Corsaro
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New York State Library
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On 26 Sep 1995, Graves-Maureen wrote:

> 
> In doing some genealogy research, I came across this listing at the
> start of the 1870 census for Albany.  Since the records were microfilms
> of handwritten documents, I apologize if I misread any of the entries -
> one newspaper appeared to be the Fire Blater.  Now I know this makes no
> sense, but the handwriting was so difficult to read that I couldn't
> figure it out.  Can anyone corroborate this listing of newspapers in
> circulation in Albany county in 1870?
> 
> 
> Newspapers from 1870 Federal Census, Albany NY
> 
> Name                           Type               schedule
>        circulation
> --------------------------------
> Albany Argus            Pol&News        Daily
> 4700
> Albany Arugs            Pol&News     semiweekly                   3300
> Albany Argus            Pol&News       weekly
> 9000
> Evening Post            Pol&News         daily
> 1500
> Evening Journal        Pol&News       daily
> 5500
> Evening Journal       Pol&News        daily
> 19000
> Knickerbocker         Pol&News        daily
> 2000
> Express                   Pol&News        daily
>  6000
> Catholic Chronicle   Religous         weekly
> 500
> Cultivation            Agrigulture       weekly
> 15000
> Fire Blater(?)          Pol&News        weekly
> 500
> Albany Times          Pol&News         daily
> 1000
> Albany Law Journal Law                 monthly
> 500
> Cohoes Cataract      Pol&News         weekly                        800
> West Troy Democrat Pol&News weekly 900
> Coeyman's Gazette Pol&News weekly 600
> 
> 
> Also, are all of these newspapers available in microfilm format?
> 
> 
> 
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I forgot to check for the German paper. It is listed in Hough's 1872 
edition of the Gazetteer:

	Albany Freie Blatter. It was published daily ex. Sunday by Adolph 
Miggael for $8 per annum, it began in 1852 and was still going in 1872. 
It was published in German and was Democratic in politics

			Jim

James Corsaro
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Manuscripts and Special Collections
New York State Library
Empire State Plaza
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On 26 Sep 1995, Graves-Maureen wrote:

> 
> In doing some genealogy research, I came across this listing at the
> start of the 1870 census for Albany.  Since the records were microfilms
> of handwritten documents, I apologize if I misread any of the entries -
> one newspaper appeared to be the Fire Blater.  Now I know this makes no
> sense, but the handwriting was so difficult to read that I couldn't
> figure it out.  Can anyone corroborate this listing of newspapers in
> circulation in Albany county in 1870?
> 
> 
> Newspapers from 1870 Federal Census, Albany NY
> 
> Name                           Type               schedule
>        circulation
> --------------------------------
> Albany Argus            Pol&News        Daily
> 4700
> Albany Arugs            Pol&News     semiweekly                   3300
> Albany Argus            Pol&News       weekly
> 9000
> Evening Post            Pol&News         daily
> 1500
> Evening Journal        Pol&News       daily
> 5500
> Evening Journal       Pol&News        daily
> 19000
> Knickerbocker         Pol&News        daily
> 2000
> Express                   Pol&News        daily
>  6000
> Catholic Chronicle   Religous         weekly
> 500
> Cultivation            Agrigulture       weekly
> 15000
> Fire Blater(?)          Pol&News        weekly
> 500
> Albany Times          Pol&News         daily
> 1000
> Albany Law Journal Law                 monthly
> 500
> Cohoes Cataract      Pol&News         weekly                        800
> West Troy Democrat Pol&News weekly 900
> Coeyman's Gazette Pol&News weekly 600
> 
> 
> Also, are all of these newspapers available in microfilm format?
> 
> 
> 
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                    STUDENT RESEARCH AWARDS AVAILABLE 
                            FROM STATE ARCHIVES

     The State Archives and Records Administration announces its
sixth annual Student
Research Awards to promote and recognize excellence in student
research.  The purpose
of the award is to encourage students to explore the wealth of
historical records found in
archives, libraries, businesses, community organizations, local
governments (e.g., schools,
towns, counties, etc.), historical societies, families, and
individuals throughout New York
State.  There are two awards: one for a student or group of
students grades 6-8, and one for
a student or group of students grades 9-12.

     All student research award entries must be the result of
student research using
historical records.  Some examples of historical records are: 

          *Personal papers, such as original letters, diaries,
journals, photographs, and
          	drawings 
          *Business records, such as ledgers, correspondence and
advertisements 
          *Local government records, such as minutes of board
meetings, tax assessment
           	maps, engineering and highway records, police and
court records, and school
           	district records 
          *Community organization records, such as church
membership, financial and
           	social action records and 
          *State and national records including census records,
vital records,
           	property records, wills and probate records.  

     The product of the research may be a traditional research
paper; an exhibit; an
audiovisual production; a performance; a work of fiction or
drama; a proposal for
designation of a historic marker, property or district; or a
document packet or other
curriculum material for future use by students and teachers.  

     Research products prepared for other competitions, e.g.,
History Day, will be eligible
if they meet other relevant criteria, especially use of
historical records.

     Each award includes a certificate and a cash prize, which
represents the income from
a fund established by a donation from a former member of the
Board of Regents. 
Certificates of Merit will be awarded to those entries, other
than the winners, that
demonstrate a substantial reliance on historical records to
support their research.   

                                                      



     Last year's winners in the 6-8 category used historical
records from Arlington Central
School District to create an exhibit that showed how their school
responded to World War
II.   Using high school "General Bulletins" from 1941-1945, the
students illustrated and
described the following subjects: "Arlington Participation in
Funding the War," "Emergency
Farming," "Events Arlington High Participated in Concerning the
War," "Air Raid Drills and
Fire Drills," and "Attitudes Towards War: A Comparison Between
Past and Present."

     In the 9-12 category, last year's winner used family
historical records, records from
the Columbia County Court House, Columbia County Surrogate Court,
Olana State Historic
Site's David Huntington Archives, and the New York State Bridge
Authority to research the
history of his grandparent's farm.  The applicant integrated
historical records, personal
interviews, and his own experiences and reflections to tell the
story of the farm from when
it was frequented by the Mahican and Mohawk Indians to the
present day.

     Applications must be postmarked on or before June 1, 1996. 
The awards will be
announced during New York Archives Week, October, 1996.  



     For more information, and to receive a copy of the award
guidelines and an
application, call or write as follows: 


                              Julie Daniels 
                         Student Research Awards 
                State Archives and Records Administration 
                     10A46 Cultural Education Center 
                             Albany, NY 12230 
                               518-473-8037.


      Date:  09/27/1995  03:10 pm  (Wednesday)  
      From:  William Evans
        To:  inet:"[log in to unmask]"








              		STUDENT RESEARCH AWARDS AVAILABLE 
                            FROM STATE ARCHIVES

     The State Archives and Records Administration announces its
sixth annual Student Research Awards to promote and recognize
excellence in student research.  The purpose of the award is to
encourage students to explore the wealth of historical records
found in archives, libraries, businesses, community
organizations, local governments (e.g., schools, towns, counties,
etc.), historical societies, families, and individuals throughout
New York State.  There are two awards: one for a student or group
of students grades 6-8, and one for a student or group of
students grades 9-12.

     All student research award entries must be the result of
student research using historical records.  Some examples of
historical records are: 

          *Personal papers, such as original letters, diaries,
journals, photographs, and drawings 
          *Business records, such as ledgers, correspondence and
advertisements 
          *Local government records, such as minutes of board
meetings, tax assessment maps, engineering and highway records,
police and court records, and school district records 
          *Community organization records, such as church
membership, financial and social action records and 
          *State and national records including census records,
vital records, property records, wills and probate records.  

     The product of the research may be a traditional research
paper; an exhibit; an audiovisual production; a performance; a
work of fiction or drama; a proposal for designation of a
historic marker, property or district; or a document packet or
other curriculum material for future use by students and
teachers.  

     Research products prepared for other competitions, e.g.,
History Day, will be eligible if they meet other relevant
criteria, especially use of historical records.

     Each award includes a certificate and a cash prize, which
represents the income from a fund established by a donation from
a former member of the Board of Regents.  Certificates of Merit
will be awarded to those entries, other than the winners, that
demonstrate a substantial reliance on historical records to
support their research.   

     Last year's winners in the 6-8 category used historical
records from Arlington Central School District to create an
exhibit that showed how their school responded to World War
II.   Using high school "General Bulletins" from 1941-1945, the
students illustrated and described the following subjects:
"Arlington Participation in Funding the War," "Emergency
Farming," "Events Arlington High Participated in Concerning the
War," "Air Raid Drills and Fire Drills," and "Attitudes Towards
War: A Comparison Between Past and Present."

     In the 9-12 category, last year's winner used family
historical records, records from the Columbia County Court House,
Columbia County Surrogate Court, Olana State Historic
Site's David Huntington Archives, and the New York State Bridge
Authority to research the history of his grandparent's farm.  The
applicant integrated historical records, personal interviews, and
his own experiences and reflections to tell the story of the farm
from when it was frequented by the Mahican and Mohawk Indians to
the present day.

     Applications must be postmarked on or before June 1, 1996. 
The awards will be announced during New York Archives Week,
October, 1996
     For more information, and to receive a copy of the award
guidelines and an application, call or write as follows: 


                              Julie Daniels 
                         Student Research Awards 
                State Archives and Records Administration 
                     10A46 Cultural Education Center 
                             Albany, NY 12230 
                               518-473-8037.



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In a message dated 95-09-27 09:46:12 EDT, you write:

>In a message dated 95-09-26 10:36:19 EDT, you write:
>
>>but they want to know what unit he served in. That's
>>what I'm trying to find out.
>
>WHY do you think they asked you?  So that they would have the right answer
to
>give you!!

On this message I made a "test" of what I am now certain happens and we
should all be aware of it.

To reply I "selected" the above comment and pressed the "reply" button.  I
then copied the private address of the original sender out of the header data
and pasted it over the address to the entire list, then pressed the "send"
button.

The software did not recognize the change of address from the list to the
original sender's private address, but sent my "wise crack" remark to the
entire list.

I have been embarrassed by this a few times before, and have alwasy been
convinced by someone that my poor feeble mind is tricking me into just
"thinking" I changed the address.   Not true!

We get all kinds of temper flare ups and exasperated comment on these idiots
that clutter up our boxes with messages to the list that should have been
addressed to a private individual only, especially with "unsubscribe"
messages, and I think it is largely a software problem.

I suggest when you write a reply in this manner, you state in the body of
your letter:
        "This letter addressed to private individual's address, not the
entire list."
The double check before you hit that "send" or "send later" button.

John G. Deal
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About the flames that go inadvertently to the whole list:

In addition to correcting a software problem, we could all be just a bit
nicer in print. Saves embarrassment. Raises the whole tenor of the list.
Makes us look much less mean spirited. Requires less apology. Gives
people a positive impression of us instead of a negative one. Let's
encourage civility by example.

Mary Lou Caskey
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Here's a little more information on the Freie Blaetter.  It started 
publication in 1852, but the first issue (to our knowldege at least) to be 
found was 1857.  It continued until 1912.  At some point it changed its 
name to the Albany Freie Bleatter.  Unfortunately only scattered issues 
of this paper have been found.  If you are interested in a particular issue 
I can try to locate it for you.  

I would also like to take a moment to plug the New York State Newpspaper 
Project.  We are try to locate every issue of every United States newspaper 
in the State of New York.  The Albany Freie Blaetter is an example of the 
problems of trying to locate these valauble historic resources.  The ultimate 
goal of the project is to microfilm as many of these papers so the information 
will be preserved for years to come.  If you know of any inividual or 
institution has newspaper collection and would like to participate in the 
project, please call Bill Vann at (518) 474-7491, or Kevin McCoy at 
(516) 632-6656.  You can also email me at the address listed below.  Please 
feel free to call if you are trying to locate a particular newspaper.

Kevin

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According to New York State Newspaper Project records, here 
are the titles known to have been published in Albany County 
circa 1870:
1. Albany Evening Journal (daily) 1830-1925, New York State
	Library (NYSL) has on film (FM)
2. Albany Evening Post (daily) 1865-1975; not filmed; no
	extant 1870 issues
3. Albany Evening Times (daily), 1869-1881, NYSL has FM
4. Albany Freie Blatter (German, umlaut over the a in 
	"Blatter", daily) 1852-1912; only a few extant issues,
	NYSL has some on film; no extant 1870 issues
5. Albany Journal (semiweekly), 1830-1899 NYSL has FM
6. Albany Journal (daily = Albany Evening Journal, see above)
7. Albany Journal (weekly, listed in Rowell but cannot 
	verify that any were published, let alone are extant)
8. Albany Knickerbocker (daily), 1867-1877; none filmed;
	NYSL has one 1870 issue
9. Albany Morning Express (daily), 1857-1898 NYSL has FM
10. Argus (Albany, NY: daily) 1865-1921, NYSL has FM
	NYS Newspaper Project filmed 1883-1921
11. Argus (Albany, NY: semiweekly), 1865-1907; some NYSL FM,
	but no 1870 issues; NY Historical has 1870 issues
12. Argus (Albany, NY: weekly), 1865-1894 none filmed;
	NYSL has 1870 issues
13. Coeymans Gazette, 1863-18?? none filmed; no extant 1870 
	issues
14. Cohoes Cataract, 1849-1881 NYSL has FM
15. Cohoes Democrat, 1870-1871 NYSL has 1871 FM, but no
	1870 issues extant
16. Green Island Review, 1800-1884, none filmed, no 1870 extant
17. Albany County Democrat, 1860-1884 none filmed, no 1870 ext.
NOT CONSIDERED NEWSPAPERS:
Cultivator and Country Gentleman (weekly - filmed)
Albany Law Journal (weekly, filmed)
Colt's Scientific Advertiser (monthly, none extant?)
Catholic Chronicle (cannot find any information on this title)

Hope this is of use.  Walter Cybulski, Preservation 
Coordinator, New York State Newspaper Project (518-474-7491).

 On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Vicki Weiss wrote:

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> In doing some genealogy research, I came across this listing at the
> start of the 1870 census for Albany.  Since the records were microfilms
> of handwritten documents, I apologize if I misread any of the entries -
> one newspaper appeared to be the Fire Blater.  Now I know this makes no
> sense, but the handwriting was so difficult to read that I couldn't
> figure it out.  Can anyone corroborate this listing of newspapers in
> circulation in Albany county in 1870?
> 
> 
> Newspapers from 1870 Federal Census, Albany NY
> 
> Name                           Type               schedule
>        circulation
> --------------------------------
> Albany Argus            Pol&News        Daily
> 4700
> Albany Arugs            Pol&News     semiweekly                   3300
> Albany Argus            Pol&News       weekly
> 9000
> Evening Post            Pol&News         daily
> 1500
> Evening Journal        Pol&News       daily
> 5500
> Evening Journal       Pol&News        daily
> 19000
> Knickerbocker         Pol&News        daily
> 2000
> Express                   Pol&News        daily
>  6000
> Catholic Chronicle   Religous         weekly
> 500
> Cultivation            Agrigulture       weekly
> 15000
> Fire Blater(?)          Pol&News        weekly
> 500
> Albany Times          Pol&News         daily
> 1000
> Albany Law Journal Law                 monthly
> 500
> Cohoes Cataract      Pol&News         weekly                        800
> West Troy Democrat Pol&News weekly 900
> Coeyman's Gazette Pol&News weekly 600
> 
> 
> Also, are all of these newspapers available in microfilm format?
> 
> 
> 
> 

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As one of the sites holding the New York State Newspaper Project's Schenectady
County microfilm, I'd like to echo Kevin McCoy's plug for the project.  It's
priceless research material.  I'm using it as part of our long-term plan to
index all the deaths and marriages in Schenectady newspapers, starting in 1822. 
For anyone interested, our indexes for 1822-62 are nearly complete, and we have
many later years available.

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Is there a handy way to find which NYS newspapers have indexes-- other
that the obvious TIMES and TRIBUNE? Either published indexes or card
files in libraries or historical societies?

Christopher Densmore
University Archives, State University of New York at Buffalo
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In a message dated 95-09-27 23:39:46 EDT, you write:

>In a message dated 95-09-26 02:47:08 EDT, you write:
>
>>history of the blind population in NY spanning the years 1642 - 1876.
>
>Not a whole lot happening regarding the blind in the US in those years --
not
>a whole lot of US in 1642.  The first school for the blind didn't happen
>until 1829.  Nothing really of much import between the invention of eye
>glasses in 1285 by Alessandro de Spina and the invention of bifocals by Ben
>Franklin in 1784.  John Dollard came up with the achromatic lens in 1758,
>B

Dear List Subscribers,

Here is ANOTHER case of a reply I made to a private individual that winds up
posted to the entire list -- as it should not have been.  I really said
nothing of interest to ALL in my reply to this individual.

My apologies for the inconveniece and cost.  Someday we will track down the
REASON for this happening all the time.

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