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From [log in to unmask] Thu Sep 14 16:15:17 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from vms1.nysed.gov by unix10.nysed.gov (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05082; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:15:17 -0400 Received: from unix2.nysed.gov ([149.10.64.24]) by vms1.nysed.gov with SMTP; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dos49.nysed.gov by unix2.nysed.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12476; Thu, 14 Sep 95 16:20:19 EDT Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:19:08 -0900 (PDT) From: Charles Gehring <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Cc: charles gehring <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Seminar announcement X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 605 "Neighbourlie Correspondencye" Relations between New Netherland and New England The New Netherland Project announces its 18th Rensselaerswijck Seminar, a one-day conference to held Saturday, September 16, 1995, in the Museum the Theater of the Cultural Education Center at the Empire State Plaza in Albany, New York. Five speakers will present papers detailing relations between New Netherland and New England. The seminar should be of special interest to colonial American historians. Registration can be done at the door for $25 between 8:30 and 9:00. The conference runs from 9:00 until 3:30. From [log in to unmask] Tue Sep 19 11:51:19 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13611; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 11:51:19 -0400 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 11:55:41 -0400 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:02:46 -0400 From: Tom Ruller <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: New York State Archives on the Internet content-length: 946 The New York State Archives and Records Administration (SARA) operates Gopher and World Wide Web services to support access to information about SARA's holdings, programs and services. The Gopher and World Wide Web services contain the full text of subject guides; information on specific research areas or records such as genealogy, military records, and probate records; a current list of local government records available on microfilm from SARA; on-line access to SARA's on-line public access catalog, Excelsior; information on recent accessions and important news from SARA; and much more. To access the New York State Archives and Records Administration via Gopher, "point" your gopher client to: unix6.nysed.gov to access SARA via the World Wide Web use the following URL: http://unix6.nysed.gov For more information on SARA's Internet services contact SARA via e-mail at: [log in to unmask] or via telephone at (518) 474-6771. From [log in to unmask] Tue Sep 19 14:10:16 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14042; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:10:15 -0400 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:14:41 -0400 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:21:27 -0400 From: Jill Rydberg <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Research Residency at the NYS Archives content-length: 3566 LARRY J. HACKMAN RESEARCH RESIDENCY PROGRAM INTRODUCED AT THE NEW YORK STATE ARCHIVES Guidelines and Schedule for 1996 Awards The New York State Archives and New York State Archives Partnership Trust announce the availability of awards for qualified applicants to pursue research using the holdings of the New York State Archives. The recently established Larry J. Hackman Research Residency Program, funded by the New York State Archives Partnership Trust, is intended to support advanced work in New York State history, government or public policy. This year, the program will award a total of $15,000 for work in the New York State Archives. Eligibility: Applicants working on doctoral dissertations and those at the post-doctoral level are particularly encouraged to apply, but any proposal for advanced research will be considered. Projects involving alternative uses of the Archives, such as background research for multimedia projects and historical novels, are also eligible. Topic or area of study must draw on the holdings of the New York State Archives. Preference will be given to projects that have application to enduring public policy issues, particularly in New York State, and that have a high probability of publication or other public dissemination. Other considerations aside, preference will be given to proposals for research in Archives' holdings that have been little used or have only recently become available. The awards: A total of $15,000 will be available beginning in February 1996 for research to be carried out during 1996. Two awards of $6,000 each will be made for in-depth research, and two smaller awards of $1,500 each will be made for shorter research visits. The awards are intended to defray costs of travel, living expenses, and other research-related expenses. The application process: Application forms are available from Jill Rydberg, New York State Archives Partnership Trust, Room 9C49, Cultural Education Center, Albany, New York 12230; phone: (518) 473-7091, fax: (518) 473-7058, e-mail: [log in to unmask] Applications must be postmarked by October 31, 1995. Proposals will be reviewed by a panel of scholars and archivists familiar with the State Archives and its holdings. Decisions will be made by January 5, 1996. Requirements: Award recipients must carry out their research during the 1996 calendar year; residencies must be completed by December 31, 1996. At the end of the residency, awardees are expected to submit a written report on the research or a draft of the written product and a statement of publication plans or other public dissemination. Residents are expected to make one public presentation in New York State on the results of the project. Information about the holdings of the New York State Archives: It is recommended that potential applicants contact the Archives Public Services staff before completing the application to discuss their research topic and the records that they propose to use. Contact Dr. James D. Folts at (518) 474-8955 or e-mail at [log in to unmask] Information on the holdings of the New York State Archives is available in a published "Guide to Records in the New York State Archives" and in finding aids on specific topics or on the records of particular agencies. Contact the Archives for a list of publications. The published guide to the Archives, the computerized catalog of record series descriptions, and selected topical finding aids are available on-line at: gopher://unix6.nysed.gov or http://unix6.nysed.gov. From [log in to unmask] Wed Sep 20 15:03:56 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19375; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:03:56 -0400 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:08:59 -0400 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:10:47 -0400 From: Steve Bielinski <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Call for Papers content-length: 2211 Conference on New York State History June 7-8, 1996 SUNY College at New Paltz Call for Papers Individual paper abstracts, panel proposals, and other program suggestions are now invited for the 1996 conference at New Paltz. Presentations may consider any aspect of the history of New York over the past 400 years. Diverse theoretical perspectives and innovative methodological approaches are welcomed. The deadline for proposals is December 31, 1995. The Conference on New York State History is an annual meeting of academic and public historians, publishers, educators, and general students of history who come together to discuss topics and issues related to the people of New York State in historical perspective and to share information and ideas regarding historical research, programming, and the networking of services. Ten presentation sessions plus a keynote address permit more than fifty individuals to take part in the formal program. Special consideration is accorded first-time and graduate student presenters. The conference is organized by staff members from Cornell University, the New York State Historical Association, and the State Education Department's Office of Cultural Education. The 1996 conference is hosted by the Hudson Valley Study Center at SUNY New Paltz. Interested parties are encouraged to discuss proposals and any conference-related ideas with the conference organizers who are David Brumberg of Cornell University, Wendell Tripp of the New York State Historical Association, and Stefan Bielinski of the New York State Museum - the conference coordinator. A larger program committee will be convened to consider proposals at a later date. A proposal must include paper and/or session titles, names and phone numbers of all participants, and a one or two page description of each presentation. Special scheduling and equipment requests also should be noted. All program participants are expected to register for the conference. Address proposals to Stefan Bielinski, Conference on New York State History, 3093 Cultural Education Center, Albany, NY 12230, (518) 474-6917. Participants will be notified by mid-February 1996. From [log in to unmask] Thu Sep 21 18:55:56 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from k12.wcsu.ctstateu.edu by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23188; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 18:55:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9509212255.AA23188@unix10> Received: from [149.152.52.19] ([149.152.52.19]) by k12.wcsu.ctstateu.edu with SMTP; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 18:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 19:02:30 -0500 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Tom Vogt) Cc: [log in to unmask] content-length: 137 I am trying to find information on a legal case - Lochner versus New York State - which deals with bakers in New York State. Tom Vogt From [log in to unmask] Thu Sep 21 23:45:10 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from amauta.rcp.net.pe by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23616; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 23:45:04 -0400 Received: by amauta.rcp.net.pe (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0svz51-000JnVC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 22:47 EST Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] (Robert Underwood) Subject: North from North Creek To: [log in to unmask] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 22:47:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text content-length: 1203 A list on the History of the Empire State! This is great and kudos to the originators/owners. Now, a question I have had for years but had no one to ask... In the 1948 Rand McNally Handy Railroad Atlas of the U.S., there is a railroad, the good old D&H, which runs from Saratoga Springs roughly north to North Creek. There the line ends (at least on the map). In the 1988 version of the same Atlas, there is U.S.G. trackage which runs north of North Creek to Tahawus. What is (or was) going on in Tahawus? Mining of some sort probably. I thinks the tracks on this line must be in disrepair these days, as about a year ago I crossed them near North Creek. A second question. Re the history of lumbering in the North Country... Are there any good books which cover the subject? I saw one advertised named something like "Jobs, Jobbers, and Kings," and want to purchase a copy. Lumbering must have been or still is a key industry in parts of New York. Was, as in parts of New England, most of the forests in the Adirondacks cut at one point? Hope these are good questions for the list and look forward to additional discussion. Bob Underwood [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Fri Sep 22 01:12:41 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from SNYSUFAA.sunysuffolk.edu (snysufaa.cc.sunysuffolk.edu) by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23741; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 01:12:39 -0400 Received: by snysufaa.sunysuffolk.edu (MX V4.1 AXP) id 105; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 23:17:12 EDT Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 23:17:12 EDT From: KEVIN MCCOY <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Funding for the NEH content-length: 2657 From: KEVIN MCCOY <[log in to unmask]> This message is being posted to a couple of lists. Sorry for any duplication. This week I received a disturbing message the Condist listerv (a conservation listserv). Every non-Administrative employee of the NEH's Division of Preservation and Access are getting "Certificates of Expected Separation" due to expected budget cuts in the '96 Fiscal Year. In the last five years institutions and individuals in New York have received $91,395,585 in grants from the NEH. Much of this money was used by libraries to preserve valuable historical resources which were disintegrating. Without this money, there would be materials which would be lost forever. The bill to fund the NEH is called H.R. 1977, the FY96 Interior Appropriations Bill. The Senate version of H.R. 1977 would fund the NEH at $110 million for the 1996 fiscal year, and includes no phase-out language. The House-passed version would fund NEH at $99 million, and assumes a three-year phase-out for both Endowments. It is important to let your legislators know that they should support the Senate version of H.R. 1977. If you have time it would also be beneficial to ask the House and Senate conferees to support the Senate version of H.R. 1977. Below is a list of likely conferees. HOUSE: Rep. Ralph Regula (House Subcommittee Chair) (R-OH); Rep. Joseph McDade (R-PA); Rep. Jim Kolbe (R-AZ); Rep. Joe Skeen (R- NM); Rep. Barbara Vucanovich (R-NV); Rep. Charles Taylor (R-NC); Rep. George Nethercutt (R-WA); Rep. Jim Bunn (R-OR); Rep. Robert Livingston (R-LA); Rep. Sidney Yates (D-IL); Rep. Norm Dicks (D- WA); Rep. Tom Bevill (D-AL); Rep. David Skaggs (D-CO); Rep. David Obey (D-WA). SENATE: Sen. Slade Gorton (R-WA); Sen. Mark Hatfield (R-OR); Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK); Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS); Sen. Pete Dominici (R-NM); Sen. Connie Mack (R-FL); Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT); Sen. Robert Bennett (R-UT); Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV); Sen. Ernest Hollings (D-SC); Sen. Bennett Johnston (D-LA); Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT); Sen. Dale Bumpers (D-AR); Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV); Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA). Kevin McCoy <[log in to unmask]> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> X-ListName: [log in to unmask] Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: [log in to unmask] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 23:10:24 EDT Reply-To: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Funding for the NEH From [log in to unmask] Fri Sep 22 09:43:11 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from vaxc.isc.rit.edu by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24540; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:43:10 -0400 Received: from ritvax.isc.rit.edu by ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #8168) id <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:47:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:38:16 -0400 (EDT) From: RRLC <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: North from North Creek In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Thu, 21 Sep 1995 22:47:15 -0500 (EST)" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT content-length: 1278 I must give credit to my husband, Phil Miller for this answer re: the railroad north of North Creek: The trackage north of North Creek was built in 1947 or 48 (not sure which--maybe even '46), and it was built because of mining operations at Tahawus. At Tahawus, the National Lead Co. mined taconite, a black substance which makes white pigment. The tracks were allowed to be built, despite the forever wild clause of the NYS Constitution, for reasons of national security. This was right after WWII and right before the Korean War, remember. White paint for national security (I asked )? Something to do with ships, maybe??? The line was built by the National Lead Co. but it was considered part of the D&H. The tracks may look like they are in disrepair, but they are only rusty. As far as the rails go, they are in excellent condition. The ties may need a little repair, but the ballast is very good -- was really good quality to begin with. The last train ran in 1987 or 88, when part of the mine closed. The mine is still operating, but now trucks are used. If you are interested in any further information, contact me at: [log in to unmask] and I will ask Phil.... he knows tons of stuff about Adirondack Railroads. Kathy Miller [log in to unmask] Rochester NY From [log in to unmask] Fri Sep 22 11:01:23 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from postoffice3.mail.cornell.edu by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24887; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:01:22 -0400 Received: from [128.253.7.13] ([128.253.7.13]) by postoffice3.mail.cornell.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA29899 for <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:03:59 -0400 X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <v02120001ac8880e36100@[128.253.7.13]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:06:32 -0400 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Barbara Taylor) Subject: Underground railroad content-length: 434 Does anybody know of a good source of information on women's roles in the underground railroad in New York State? I already know about Harriet Tubman. I'm interested in knowing about whether there were women conductors or what role women may have played. Thank you in advance. Barbara Taylor Original Cataloger 340 Myron Taylor Hall Cornell University Law Library Ithaca, NY 14853 e-mail: [log in to unmask] voice: (607) 255-5860 From [log in to unmask] Fri Sep 22 14:01:53 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from scruz.net (nic.scruz.net) by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25424; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:01:52 -0400 Received: from [165.227.105.101] by scruz.net (8.6.9/1.34) id LAA22783; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:04:27 -0700 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:05:31 -0700 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Linda C. McIntyre) content-length: 164 I would like to have information on the origin of the name Smithtown. When it was founded and who the Smiths were it was named after. Linda [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Fri Sep 22 14:34:39 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25595; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:34:39 -0400 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:40:55 -0400 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:46:46 -0400 From: William Evans <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: -Reply content-length: 499 According to Gordon's Gazetteer, 1836; Smithtown (i'm assuming you mean the one in Suffolk County) was presented by the Montauk sachem, Wyandance, to Lyon Gardiner, who sold it Richard Smith, to whom it was confirmed by the Nissaquag sachem. No date given but I assume the 17th C. But, in NY, every county has a county historian who is generally reachable through the County Clerk. In this case - Suffolk County Clerk's Office, County Center 310 Center Drive, Riverhead, NY 11901-3392 From [log in to unmask] Fri Sep 22 21:20:13 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26505; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 21:20:13 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA84404 for <[log in to unmask]>; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 01:22:51 GMT Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from slip51-17.ca.us.ibm.net(129.37.51.17) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaDI8Dmb; Sat Sep 23 01:22:41 1995 To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 21:19:42 -0500 From: Peter Franklin <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 content-length: 633 -- [ From: Peter Franklin * EMC.Ver #2.5.03 ] -- hello. the gabby cabby, aka peter franklin, has been pushing a hack on the streets of nyc for a whole bunch of years. i am an excellent source for free info if you are planning a visit. each week,i am telephoned by radio stations from all over the US, Canada, and overseas who want to hear my True Tales of New York City. if you have a good story about you and nyc, please let me know so i can tell the world and put it on my web site. please note that it is best to respond to [log in to unmask] peter franklin aka the gabby cabby web site is http://pages.prodigy.com/NY/gabby From [log in to unmask] Fri Sep 22 23:36:58 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26697; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 23:36:57 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA98033 for <[log in to unmask]>; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 03:39:37 GMT Received: from unknown(129.37.221.74) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smazOADmb; Sat Sep 23 03:39:24 1995 Received: by localhost (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/2.12um) id AA0024; Fri, 22 Sep 95 21:10:56 -0700 Message-Id: <9509230410.AA0024@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 20:59:43 +0500 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: North from North Creek X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <15_59_1_811817984> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 1296 Bob Underwood... You asked about books on history of lumbering in the north country. I have a softcover book, "Lumberjacks and Rivermen in the Central Adirondacks, 1850-1950" by Harold K. Hochschild, published by the Adirondack Museum at Blue Mountain Lake, NY, in 1962. It is a relatively short work, 88 pages, but lots of photos and couple of maps. Table of Contents Entries are: Glen Falls Invades Township 34 The Lumbermen at the Eckford Lakes Forest Free-for-All The Logger's Calendar The Banking Ground The Drive The Men The Raquette Holds its Own Against the Hudson Epilogue Appendices Nineteenth Century Logging Practices Cutting and Peeling Skidding Bobbing The Two-Sled Draw Glossary of Logging Terms The Decline of Adriondack Logging Articles of Agreement for Driving Logs on the Hudson River and its Tributaries, March 29, 1862. This is probably not the definitive treatise on the subject, but I thought that the table of contents might help you decide if it was worth pursuing. You could probably get a copy by contacting the Adirondack Museum at Blue Mountain Lake. George Peek in Liverpool, NY From [log in to unmask] Sat Sep 23 09:50:07 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27320; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 09:50:06 -0400 Received: by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA08490 for [log in to unmask]; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 09:52:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 09:52:46 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: River rats unite! content-length: 778 Hi! Looking forward to enjoying the list. If there is anyone on the list from or associated with, friends of, etc etc of the following folks, organizations, etc. sure would love to have a note from you, addressed to me, not the list. thanks. [log in to unmask] Anyone with, near, associated etc: Clayton NY The Shipyard Museum Alex Bay Grindstone Island Wellesley Island Cherry Island Alex Bay Lake George Antique and Classic Boat Soc. old wooden boat owners, restorers, etc Silver Bay Adirondack Museum at Blue Mtn. Gar Wood Society Antique Outboard Motor Club live along the River between Clayton and Alex Bay steamboaters Hackercraft fans Best regards, John G. Deal 1888 Sandalwood Drive Palm Springs CA 92262 619-323-8530 [log in to unmask] formerly Ripples magazine From [log in to unmask] Sat Sep 23 10:33:35 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27421; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 10:33:34 -0400 Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA12288 for [log in to unmask]; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 10:32:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 10:32:01 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Smithtown content-length: 300 > >I would like to have information on the origin of the name Smithtown. When >it was founded and who the Smiths were it was named after. Smithtown has a pretty good Long Island History Room and the Librarian is both extremely helpful and knowledgeable. If you are in the area, try there first. From [log in to unmask] Sat Sep 23 14:42:27 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from seanet.com (kesha.seanet.com) by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27709; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 14:42:26 -0400 Received: from [204.182.70.176] by seanet.com with SMTP (8.6.9/25-eef) id LAA17708; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 11:45:00 -0700 X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <v01520d00ac8a0a0e0cc7@[204.182.70.176]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 11:47:21 -0800 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Keith Eriksen) Subject: Info on early railroad transportation content-length: 977 We are seeking historical New York data regarding the mode of transportation immigrants could have utilized to travel east from the port of Boston. We have been told that they would have to travel to New York City to make connections by rail to western destinations. Is this true? Could they have avoided New York City by traveling through upper New York State directly west? If immigrants had intended to settle in the bordering eastern states, one would assume that their mode of transportation could have been road vehicles, water, or railroad, especially if they arrived at New York. But for those travelers who arrived in America in the year 1880 at Boston, with the intent of immediate travel to Nebraska, ....how would it have been accomplished? Specifically, in May of 1880, what rail lines existed or other modes of transportation existed that would have been available to answer this question? Thank you for all information. e-mail: [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Sun Sep 24 06:38:20 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from draco.nova.edu by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28756; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 06:38:18 -0400 Received: from megalith.miami.fl.us by draco.nova.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26556; Sun, 24 Sep 95 06:40:16 EST Received: from sunshine by megalith.miami.fl.us with uucp (AmigaSmail3.24/Getty for <[log in to unmask]>) id <[log in to unmask]>; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 06:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sunshine.com (GIGO 0.99 pl1) id AA00748; 24 Sep 95 06:05:53 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] (Orville Bullitt) Date: 23 Sep 95 20:25:43 -0500 Subject: Underground railroad Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Sunshine's Mail Only Node X-Mail-Agent: GIGO+ sn 164 at sunshine vsn 0.99 pl1 To: [log in to unmask] content-length: 13870 > Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:06:32 -0400 > From: [log in to unmask] (Barbara Taylor) > To: [log in to unmask] > > Does anybody know of a good source of information on women's roles in > the underground railroad in New York State? I already know about Harriet > Tubman. I'm interested in knowing about whether there were women > conductors or what role women may have played. Thank you in advance. Barbara, I did a Lycos search for the words "underground railroad." Below are the first twenty hits. Good luck, Orville Bullitt LYCOS SEARCH: UNDERGROUND RAILROAD Load average: 1.43: Lycos Sept. 5, 1995 catalog, 6774568 unique URLs (see Lycos News) Best Selection - Lowest Prices - Internet Shopping Network _________________________________________________________________ Found 8867 documents matching at least one search term. Found 41 matching words (number of documents): underground(6584), railroad(2931), ... _________________________________________________________________ 1.[score 1.0000 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/home.htm last fetched:06-Jul-95 file date:07-May-95 bytes:1592 links:11 title:hortoc outline:The UndergroundRailroadin Rochester, New York keys:railroadunderground excerpt:hortoc The UndergroundRailroadin Rochester, New York History of the UndergroundRailroad* Slavery * The Fugitive Slave Act * Abolitionists and the Establishment of the UndergroundRailroad* Function of the UndergroundRailroad* How the Slaves Were Transported _________________________________________________________________ 2.[score 0.9394 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.nando.net/ncd/week5/free4.html last fetched:07-Apr-95 bytes:8244 links:2 title:North Carolina Discoveries outline:The UndergroundRailroad keys:railroadunderground excerpt:North Carolina Discoveries The UndergroundRailroadSince it was never noted much in national histories or texts, the fact that some 50,000 North Carolinians left the state and moved to Ohio or Indian... _________________________________________________________________ 3.[score 0.9095 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor11.html descriptions: UndergroundRailroadStations in Rochester _________________________________________________________________ 4.[score 0.9078 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.smartdocs.com/biblio_mail/1641.html descriptions: WTB: Civil War: UndergroundRailroad _________________________________________________________________ 5.[score 0.9078 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor6.html descriptions: Location of UndergroundRailroadStations _________________________________________________________________ 6.[score 0.9071 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor4.html descriptions: Function of the UndergroundRailroad _________________________________________________________________ 7.[score 0.9064 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor9.html descriptions: Frederick Douglass and the UndergroundRailroad _________________________________________________________________ 8.[score 0.9058 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor8.html descriptions: Rochester's Role in the UndergroundRailroad _________________________________________________________________ 9.[score 0.9053 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor10.html descriptions: Rochesterians' Support and Participation in the UndergroundRailroad _________________________________________________________________ 10.[score 0.9053 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor3.html descriptions: Abolitionists and the Establishment of the UndergroundRailroad Next 10 hits Lycos 1.5 04-Sep-95 / 23-Sep-95 / [log in to unmask] LYCOS SEARCH: UNDERGROUND RAILROAD Load average: 1.44: Lycos Sept. 5, 1995 catalog, 6774568 unique URLs (see Lycos News) Bring Lycos home with CyberSearch _________________________________________________________________ Found 8867 documents matching at least one search term. Printing the next 10 of 8867 documents with at least scores of 0.010. Found 41 matching words (number of documents): underground(6584), railroad(2931), ... _________________________________________________________________ 11.[score 0.9048 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/ugrr/hor7.html descriptions: How Many Slaves Were Helped by the UndergroundRailroad _________________________________________________________________ 12.[score 0.9014 2 of 2 terms adj 1.0] http://press-gopher.uchicago.edu:70/CGI/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/99/south_car /92016843.ctl descriptions: Buckmaster, Henrietta: Let My People Go: The Story of the Underground Railroadand the Growth of the Abolition Movement _________________________________________________________________ 13.[score 0.6763 2 of 2 terms] http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bowdidge/railroad/rail-maps.html last fetched:01-Sep-95 file date:03-Jun-95 bytes:4619 links:26 title:RailroadMaps keys:railroadrailroadsunderground excerpt:RailroadMaps Click here to return to the home page of Railroad-related Internet resources. Some of the following files are available for anonymous ftp from cs.ucsd.edu in the directory pub/bowdidge. Also, check out Dmitry Zinoviev's RailroadMaps from All the Globe page for additional maps. There's a London Undergroundmap available through the Wide-World Web at http://web.cs.city.ac.uk/london/travel/underground/map?central . Can you find the London Transport Museum page on the same server? Loren Petrich ( [log in to unmask] ) has created many maps of rail transit systems. He now has an official storage site for the transit maps . Some of the _________________________________________________________________ 14.[score 0.6529 2 of 2 terms] http://fatty.law.cornell.edu/uscode/43/index.html last fetched:04-Jul-95 file date:02-Feb-95 bytes:6660 links:5 title:43 USC TITLE 43 (1993) keys:railroadsrailroadunderground excerpt:43 USC TITLE 43 (1993) * UNITED STATES CODE * TITLE 43 Search this title TITLE 43 - PUBLIC LANDS * Chapt. 1 . Bureau of Land Management * Chapt. 2 . United States Geological Survey * Chapt. 3 . Surveys * Chapt. 4 . District Land Offices 5 Land Districts * Chapt. 6 . Withdrawal from Settlement, Location, Sale, or Entry * Chapt. 7 . Homesteads * Chapt. 8 . Timber and Stone Lands (Repealed) * Chapt. 8A . Grazing Lands * Chapt. 9 . Desert-Land Entries * Chapt. 10 . Underground-Water Reclamation Grants (Repealed) * Chapt. 11 . Discovery, Development, and Marking of Water Holes, etc., by Government * Chapt. 11A . Board on Geographic Names * Chapt. 12 _________________________________________________________________ 15.[score 0.6503 2 of 2 terms] http://www.cit.state.vt.us/vtlife/video.htm last fetched:11-Jul-95 file date:09-Jun-95 bytes:2321 links:3 keys:railroadsrailroadunderground excerpt:Vermont: A Video Tour Travel through Vermont from your easy chair... Vermont: A Video Tour Start with the splendid natural beauty of Vermont; add the farms, the food, the fairs, and the folk arts; go skiing and fishing; attend a hot air balloon festival, visit a famous inn, see the classic rural villages and covered bridges -- and you've still only experienced part of this great armchair _________________________________________________________________ 16.[score 0.6495 2 of 2 terms] http://www.cybermalls.com/cymont/vtlife/video.htm last fetched:05-Jun-95 file date:04-Mar-95 bytes:2925 links:8 title:Vermont: A Video Tour keys:railroadsrailroadunderground excerpt:Vermont: A Video Tour Travel through Vermont from your easy chair... Vermont: A Video Tour Start with the splendid natural beauty of Vermont; add the farms, the food, the fairs, and the folk arts; go skiing and fishing; attend a hot air balloon festival, visit a famous inn, see the classic rural villages and covered bridges -- and you've still only experienced part of this great armchair tour. Because what makes this 60-minute video particularly interesting are the Vermonters you meet _________________________________________________________________ 17.[score 0.4923 2 of 2 terms] http://www.abag.ca.gov/san_carlos/econdev/prog1194.html last fetched:22-Aug-95 bytes:5072 title:We're Making Progress - November, 1994 outline:We're Making Progress Progress Report Howard Avenue Grade Separation Howard Avenue is now closed to east-west traffic as theoverpass is constructed. It is expected to reopenby May, 1995. Brittan Avenue keys:undergroundingofundergroundingrailroad excerpt:We're Making Progress - November, 1994 We're Making Progress Arrow keys: Up and Down to move. Right to follow a link; Left to go back. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list --More-- This is a searchable index. Use 's' to searchhttp://www.abag.ca.gov/san_carlos/econdev/prog1194.htmlLycos search: underground railroad (p10 of 16) November 23, 1994 There are few businesses and residents that have not beenaffected or inconvenienced by the Howard and Brittan AvenueGrade... Produced by the San Carlos Chamber of Commerce for the San Carlos Redevelopment Agency San Carlos Chamber of Commerce 1560 Laurel Street San Carlos, CA 94070-3018 Phone: (415) 593-1068 Fax: (415) 593-9108 Internet E-Mail: [log in to unmask] Internet Web Server: http://www.abag.ca.gov/san_carlos/index.html San Carlos Redevelopment Agency 666 Elm Street San Carlos, CA 94070-3085 Phone: (415) 802-4209 Fax: (415) 595-2044 Internet E-Mail: scarlos _________________________________________________________________ 18.[score 0.4923 2 of 2 terms] http://198.31.87.5/abag/local_gov/city/san_carlos/econdev/prog1194.html last fetched:04-Jun-95 bytes:5072 title:We're Making Progress - November, 1994 outline:We're Making Progress Progress Report Howard Avenue Grade Separation Howard Avenue is now closed to east-west traffic as theoverpass is constructed. It is expected to reopenby May, 1995. Brittan Avenue keys:undergroundingofundergroundingrailroad excerpt:We're Making Progress - November, 1994 We're Making Progress November 23, 1994 There are few businesses and residents that have not beenaffected or inconvenienced by the Howard and Brittan AvenueGrade... Produced by the San Carlos Chamber of Commerce for the San Carlos Redevelopment Agency San Carlos Chamber of Commerce 1560 Laurel Street San Carlos, CA 94070-3018 Phone: (415) 593-1068 Fax: (415) 593-9108 Internet E-Mail: [log in to unmask] Internet Web Server: http://www.abag.ca.gov/san_carlos/index.html San Carlos Redevelopment Agency 666 Elm Street San Carlos, CA 94070-3085 Phone: (415) 802-4209 Fax: (415) 595-2044 Internet E-Mail: scarlos _________________________________________________________________ 19.[score 0.4919 2 of 2 terms] http://www.ajc.com/atl/uground.htm last fetched:10-Jul-95 file date:06-May-95 bytes:3443 links:5 title:UndergroundAtlanta outline:UndergroundAtlanta Arrow keys: Up and Down to move. Right to follow a link; Left to go back. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list --More-- This is a searchable index. Use 's' to searchhttp://www.ajc.com/atl/uground.htmLycos search: underground railroad (p13 of 16) keys:undergroundrailroad excerpt:UndergroundAtlanta Kenny's Alley in UndergroundAtlanta is a mix of restaurants and music clubs. UndergroundAtlanta 50 Upper Alabama Street, Downtown. 523-2311 Underground, nestled along the railroadtracks where Atlanta was born, is a popular shopping, dining and entertainment district in the heart of Downtown. With its brick streets and historic touches, Undergroundgrew up around the bridges and viaducts the city built early in this century to carry traffic above those busy rail lines. Operating hours: 10 a.m. until 9:30 p.m. Monday through Saturday and noon until descriptions: UndergroundAtlanta _________________________________________________________________ 20.[score 0.4615 2 of 2 terms] http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~brennan/rails/disused.underground.html last fetched:18-Jun-95 file date:04-May-95 bytes:36034 title:Abandoned Subway Stations outline:ABANDONED SUBWAY STATIONS Disused or Unused Underground Railway Stations of the New York Area Station name [Location] [Brooklyn] station [Manhattan] 125th Street [Manhattan] 59th Street [Manhattan] 72d keys:railroadunderground excerpt:Abandoned Subway Stations ABANDONED SUBWAY STATIONS Disused or Unused UndergroundRailway Stations of the New York Area This is a complete inventory of existing undergroundstations in the New York area that are not in use. It includes parts of stations not in use, if they are large areas like whole platforms or levels, but not small areas like individual entrances or passageways (nor faces of platforms). Dates "open" refer to passenger service. The listing is in order of dates closed. Scheme: Station name [Location] *Original system name. *Open: dates, or else date built. *Remains: What is there now, usually tracks and platforms. *Best view: descriptions: Abandoned NYC Subway Stations ** That All ** -- |Fidonet: Orville Bullitt 30:30100/36 |Internet: [log in to unmask] | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his/her own. From [log in to unmask] Mon Sep 25 02:04:43 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from seanet.com (kesha.seanet.com) by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA29970; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 02:04:42 -0400 Received: from [204.182.70.176] by seanet.com with SMTP (8.6.9/25-eef) id XAA27814; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:07:18 -0700 X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <v01520d00ac8bfe244a8a@[204.182.70.176]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:09:45 -0800 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Keith Eriksen) Subject: Re: Info on early railroad transportation content-length: 155 My original posting had an error that I wish to correct. We are seeking modes of travel WEST from Boston, not East. Sorry for the typo. Keith Eriksen From [log in to unmask] Mon Sep 25 08:59:21 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from postoffice.mail.cornell.edu by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00413; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:59:20 -0400 Received: from [128.253.121.68] ([128.253.121.68]) by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA01530 for <[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:57:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:57:05 -0400 X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <v02120000ac8c1f297c69@[128.253.121.68]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Barbara J. Lauber) Subject: Re: content-length: 670 Linda : I do know that Smithtown is named after the man who rode a bull around a certain parcel of land in a required amount of time to own that land. The statue of a bull is found at crossroads in Smithtown to commemorate that deed. Why there is not a statue of the man I don't know. I also do not know how true the above story is. I lived in Smithtown and the general area for a few years. Barbara Barbara J. Lauber 110A Olin Library Central Technical Services Cornell University Ithaca, New York 14853-5301 607 255-3930 [log in to unmask] XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Years may wrinkle the skin, but to give up interest wrinkles the soul. Douglas MacArthur From [log in to unmask] Mon Sep 25 09:45:28 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from pumpkin.cdepot.net ([205.138.124.12]) by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01052; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:45:27 -0400 Received: from Shuster15.cdepot.net (Shuster15.cdepot.net [205.138.124.238]) by pumpkin.cdepot.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA12431 for <[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 07:13:15 -0700 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 06:45:55 -0700 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (cathy anne murtha) Subject: Researching blind history content-length: 572 Hi, I am doing a research paper on the history of blind people in America for a college History class. i was wondering if anyone had any info on the history of the blind population in NY spanning the years 1642 - 1876. Most all the info I can find span the nineteen hundreds and I can't use it. any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you cathy Cathy Murtha [log in to unmask] Each moment that passes can not be retrieved But when we act stupid aren't we relieved, That those momoments pass on to eternity And will be lost in the abyss of infinity? From [log in to unmask] Mon Sep 25 11:09:45 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from scruz.net (nic.scruz.net) by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01367; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 11:09:44 -0400 Received: from [165.227.105.101] by scruz.net (8.6.9/1.34) id IAA04501; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:12:20 -0700 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:12:28 -0700 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Linda C. McIntyre) Subject: Re: Re: content-length: 1026 Thanks for the info. It is a legend in our family that one of our relatives was the Smith that rode the bull. I am just not sure of the time period. If you could give me the approx. date I could then see if it fits any of the Smith men I have. Linda [log in to unmask] >Linda : I do know that Smithtown is named after the man who rode a bull >around a certain parcel of land in a required amount of time to own that >land. The statue of a bull is found at crossroads in Smithtown to >commemorate that deed. Why there is not a statue of the man I don't know. >I also do not know how true the above story is. I lived in Smithtown and >the general area for a few years. Barbara > >Barbara J. Lauber >110A Olin Library >Central Technical Services >Cornell University >Ithaca, New York 14853-5301 >607 255-3930 >[log in to unmask] >XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX >Years may wrinkle the skin, but to give up interest wrinkles the soul. > Douglas MacArthur Linda [log in to unmask] Sharks Maniac I Believe ......... From [log in to unmask] Mon Sep 25 11:46:42 1995 Return-Path: <@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:[log in to unmask]> Received: from UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01487; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 11:46:37 -0400 Message-Id: <9509251546.AA01487@unix10> Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 5843; Mon, 25 Sep 95 11:46:35 EDT Received: from UBVM (NJE origin DENSMORE@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4108; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:36:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 10:03:14 EDT From: Your Father <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Red Jacket's Speech on Andrew Jackson? To: [log in to unmask] content-length: 1641 In early 1829, the Seneca chief Red Jacket made several public addresses in New York City, Boston, Albany and perhaps elsewhere. On at least one occasion, he made a speech comparing Andrew Jackson and George Washington, to the detriment of Jackson, who had just become President. I am looking for the text of the speech or any reference that might provide some clue to the content. George Odell's ANNALS OF THE NEW YORK STAGE (1928), has Red Jacket appearing at the American Museum on Jan. 19th and March 3rd, at the Park, in late January, and early March, and again at the American Museum, after visiting Boston, on March 27th. Between January and March, Red Jacket visited Washington to meet President Andrew Jackson. I can't verify that he in fact saw Jackson, but he did visit with outgoing President J.Q. Adams on Feb. 1st. According to Odell, RJ was to talk about his meeting with Jackson at the Park Theatre on March 3rd. RJ's biographer William L. Stone refers to a speech by Red Jacket against Jackson delivered in Albany, which may have been at his appearance at the Albany Museum announced in ALBANY ARGUS of April 29, 1829. I would be very interested to know what RJ said about Jackson? Any ideas where to look? Are there indexes to the NY City press of that time? I've looked though weekly NY SPECTATOR-- edited by Wm. Stone- for early 1829, but didn't find any details of RJ's speeches. Christopher Densmore University Archives, State University of New York at Buffalo 420 Capen Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260-2200 Phone: (716) 645-2916 Fax: (716) 645-3844 BITNET: [log in to unmask] INTERNET: [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Mon Sep 25 16:30:22 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02518; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:30:22 -0400 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:38:30 -0400 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:42:31 -0400 From: William Evans <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: NYC Family History Fair content-length: 274 A Family History Fair will be held in NYC on 15 October 1995 at NYU's Loeb Student Center as part of New York Archives Week. The Fair includes a large number of genealogy workshops as well as exhibits and vendors. Further information can be obtained at (212) 415 - 5547. From [log in to unmask] Tue Sep 26 09:44:49 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03465; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:44:48 -0400 Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA15693 for [log in to unmask]; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:47:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:47:31 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: World War I records. content-length: 486 I know that State Records were kept of all those that were in the Civil War. Anyone know if any State Records are available, and how to request copies of them, for those who served in World War I. I am looking for an uncle, John Kolb, who enlisted from Brooklyn. I am writing to the Military Records Center in St. Louis, but they want to know what unit he served in. That's what I'm trying to find out. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Don Eckerle [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Tue Sep 26 12:36:28 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from gpwsmtp.arch2.nara.gov by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04345; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:36:26 -0400 Received: from NARA-Message_Server by gpwsmtp.arch2.nara.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:39:21 -0400 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:38:43 -0400 From: Claire Kluskens <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: World War I records. -Reply content-length: 952 I don't know what state records there are relating to World War I. The National Archives--Northeast Region, 201 Varick Street, New York, NY 10014 has World War I draft registration cards for New York State and New Jersey. These cards are for all males, age like 18 to 45, ca. 1917. They do not show any military service information. They do show name of next of kin, address, occupation, date and place of birth. >>> <[log in to unmask]> 09/26/95 09:47am >>> I know that State Records were kept of all those that were in the Civil War. Anyone know if any State Records are available, and how to request copies of them, for those who served in World War I. I am looking for an uncle, John Kolb, who enlisted from Brooklyn. I am writing to the Military Records Center in St. Louis, but they want to know what unit he served in. That's what I'm trying to find out. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Don Eckerle [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Tue Sep 26 14:01:02 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from TSOD.LMIG.COM by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04549; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:01:00 -0400 Received: by TSOD.LMIG.COM (Soft-Switch Central V4L380P3); 26 Sep 1995 13:35:13 GMT Message-Id: <MSMAIL.GRAVESM.8204.1995 0926 13 35 13 35> Date: 26 Sep 1995 13:35:13 GMT From: "Graves-Maureen" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Albany newspapers in 1870 To: [log in to unmask] Comment: MEMO content-length: 1521 In doing some genealogy research, I came across this listing at the start of the 1870 census for Albany. Since the records were microfilms of handwritten documents, I apologize if I misread any of the entries - one newspaper appeared to be the Fire Blater. Now I know this makes no sense, but the handwriting was so difficult to read that I couldn't figure it out. Can anyone corroborate this listing of newspapers in circulation in Albany county in 1870? Newspapers from 1870 Federal Census, Albany NY Name Type schedule circulation -------------------------------- Albany Argus Pol&News Daily 4700 Albany Arugs Pol&News semiweekly 3300 Albany Argus Pol&News weekly 9000 Evening Post Pol&News daily 1500 Evening Journal Pol&News daily 5500 Evening Journal Pol&News daily 19000 Knickerbocker Pol&News daily 2000 Express Pol&News daily 6000 Catholic Chronicle Religous weekly 500 Cultivation Agrigulture weekly 15000 Fire Blater(?) Pol&News weekly 500 Albany Times Pol&News daily 1000 Albany Law Journal Law monthly 500 Cohoes Cataract Pol&News weekly 800 West Troy Democrat Pol&News weekly 900 Coeyman's Gazette Pol&News weekly 600 Also, are all of these newspapers available in microfilm format? From [log in to unmask] Tue Sep 26 16:40:11 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from dylan.mindspring.com by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05055; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:40:10 -0400 Received: from djud.mindspring.com [168.121.23.69] by dylan.mindspring.com with SMTP id QAA01227 for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:42:39 -0400 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:46:01 -0500 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (David J. Sencer) Subject: Re: Albany newspapers in 1870 content-length: 323 > Fire Blater. If I remember my high school German of 55 years ago, Blatter with an ulaut over the a was the word for nespaper. Bet Fire is something else maybe Der. Germanic script is miserable. David J. Sencer 1097 Mason Woods Dr. [log in to unmask] Atlanta, GA 30329 From [log in to unmask] Tue Sep 26 20:26:36 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05351; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:26:35 -0400 Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA27021 for [log in to unmask]; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:29:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:29:16 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: World War I records. content-length: 228 In a message dated 95-09-26 10:36:19 EDT, you write: >but they want to know what unit he served in. That's >what I'm trying to find out. WHY do you think they asked you? So that they would have the right answer to give you!! From [log in to unmask] Tue Sep 26 20:27:04 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05368; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:27:02 -0400 Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA23280 for [log in to unmask]; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:29:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:29:45 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Researching blind history content-length: 901 In a message dated 95-09-26 02:47:08 EDT, you write: >history of the blind population in NY spanning the years 1642 - 1876. Not a whole lot happening regarding the blind in the US in those years -- not a whole lot of US in 1642. The first school for the blind didn't happen until 1829. Nothing really of much import between the invention of eye glasses in 1285 by Alessandro de Spina and the invention of bifocals by Ben Franklin in 1784. John Dollard came up with the achromatic lens in 1758, Braille improved the code for the blind in 1837, and Herman von Helmholtz came up with the opthmalocscope in 1851. In the early 1830 the Perkins School for the Blind in Waterton, Mass, the New York Institute for Special Education in the Bronx, and the Overbrook School for the Blind in Philadelphia -- Bala Cynwyd, I think, really. Nothing there you probably haven't already found long ago. Sorry. From [log in to unmask] Tue Sep 26 23:42:46 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from amauta.rcp.net.pe by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05581; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:42:37 -0400 Received: by amauta.rcp.net.pe (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0sxnQX-000JoKC; Tue, 26 Sep 95 22:44 EST Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] (Robert Underwood) Subject: Re: Info on early railroad transportation To: [log in to unmask] Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:44:57 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <v01520d00ac8a0a0e0cc7@[204.182.70.176]> from "Keith Eriksen" at Sep 23, 95 11:47:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text content-length: 1203 > > We are seeking historical New York data regarding the mode of > transportation immigrants could have utilized to travel east from the port > of Boston. We have been told that they would have to travel to New York > City to make connections by rail to western destinations. Is this true? > Could they have avoided New York City by traveling through upper New York > State directly west? The Boston & Albany (B&A) was the result of two railroads joining in 1867, the Boston & Worcester and the Western Railroad. But apparently as early as 1840, tracks were open from Boston to Rensselaer, on the east side of the Hudson River, adjacent to Albany. From Albany, one could easily go by train to Chicago, and then farther west. By the late 1860's, RR companies such as Union Pacific were actively involved in trying to bring immigrants from Europe to Nebraska. In 1878, The Union Pacific was still pushing immigration to Nebraska, linked to land sales and of course arranging for transporation to get there, there were reportedly 100,000 "newcomers" in Nebraska just that year. Agents worked throughout Europe looking for settlers, literature was printed in various languages. From [log in to unmask] Wed Sep 27 10:17:33 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06592; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:17:32 -0400 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:26:43 -0400 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:23:15 -0400 From: William Evans <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: World War One Service Records content-length: 989 The NY State Archives has the closest thing left to WWI service records. They are the Abstracts of WWI Military Service(Army, Navy and Marine Corps) and the Archives will search them. Simply request a War Service Records Search form from NYSARA, Room 11D40, Cultural Education Center, Albany NY 12230. There is an individual card for each person who served, including a large number of Army nurses and Navy yeoman(female) and nurses. The information contained is; name, serial /service number, designation of "white" or "colored", organizations served in, dates of assignments and transfers, place and date of enlistment/induction; place of birth; dates overseas, wounds received, date of separation, percent disability. For those who died in service, date, place and next of kin. In many cases decorations and awards are also given. These records were created by the state in the 1920's and the Federal records from which they were abstracted burned in 1973. Bill Evans, NYSARA From [log in to unmask] Wed Sep 27 10:15:49 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from vms1.nysed.gov by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06575; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:15:49 -0400 Received: from unix2.nysed.gov ([149.10.64.34]) by vms1.nysed.gov with SMTP; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:30:57 -0900 (PDT) From: Jim Corsaro <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Albany newspapers in 1870 X-Sender: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <MSMAIL.GRAVESM.8204.1995 0926 13 35 13 35> Message-Id: <Pine.PCP.3.91.950927072339.4692A-100000@[149.10.64.34]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 2406 Newspapers for Albany County are listed in various newspaper bibliographies such as C.S. Brigham's, Gregory's and other works. The New York State Newspaper Project in the State Library has the most complete information on newspapers published in New York State. You may want to check J.H. French's *Gazetteer of the State of New York*, 1860, which has a list of Albany city newspapers from the earliest to 1860; a later edition of the *Gazetteer*, 1872, compiled by Franklin B. Hough, has an updated list of the newspapers as of that date. Good luck. James Corsaro Associate Librarian Manuscripts and Special Collections New York State Library Empire State Plaza Albany, New York 12230 e-mail: [log in to unmask] (518) 474-5963 On 26 Sep 1995, Graves-Maureen wrote: > > In doing some genealogy research, I came across this listing at the > start of the 1870 census for Albany. Since the records were microfilms > of handwritten documents, I apologize if I misread any of the entries - > one newspaper appeared to be the Fire Blater. Now I know this makes no > sense, but the handwriting was so difficult to read that I couldn't > figure it out. Can anyone corroborate this listing of newspapers in > circulation in Albany county in 1870? > > > Newspapers from 1870 Federal Census, Albany NY > > Name Type schedule > circulation > -------------------------------- > Albany Argus Pol&News Daily > 4700 > Albany Arugs Pol&News semiweekly 3300 > Albany Argus Pol&News weekly > 9000 > Evening Post Pol&News daily > 1500 > Evening Journal Pol&News daily > 5500 > Evening Journal Pol&News daily > 19000 > Knickerbocker Pol&News daily > 2000 > Express Pol&News daily > 6000 > Catholic Chronicle Religous weekly > 500 > Cultivation Agrigulture weekly > 15000 > Fire Blater(?) Pol&News weekly > 500 > Albany Times Pol&News daily > 1000 > Albany Law Journal Law monthly > 500 > Cohoes Cataract Pol&News weekly 800 > West Troy Democrat Pol&News weekly 900 > Coeyman's Gazette Pol&News weekly 600 > > > Also, are all of these newspapers available in microfilm format? > > > From [log in to unmask] Wed Sep 27 10:22:18 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from vms1.nysed.gov by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06707; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:22:17 -0400 Received: from unix2.nysed.gov ([149.10.64.34]) by vms1.nysed.gov with SMTP; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:25:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:37:07 -0900 (PDT) From: Jim Corsaro <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Albany newspapers in 1870 X-Sender: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <MSMAIL.GRAVESM.8204.1995 0926 13 35 13 35> Message-Id: <Pine.PCP.3.91.950927073506.4692C-100000@[149.10.64.34]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 2152 I forgot to check for the German paper. It is listed in Hough's 1872 edition of the Gazetteer: Albany Freie Blatter. It was published daily ex. Sunday by Adolph Miggael for $8 per annum, it began in 1852 and was still going in 1872. It was published in German and was Democratic in politics Jim James Corsaro Associate Librarian Manuscripts and Special Collections New York State Library Empire State Plaza Albany, New York 12230 e-mail: [log in to unmask] (518) 474-5963 On 26 Sep 1995, Graves-Maureen wrote: > > In doing some genealogy research, I came across this listing at the > start of the 1870 census for Albany. Since the records were microfilms > of handwritten documents, I apologize if I misread any of the entries - > one newspaper appeared to be the Fire Blater. Now I know this makes no > sense, but the handwriting was so difficult to read that I couldn't > figure it out. Can anyone corroborate this listing of newspapers in > circulation in Albany county in 1870? > > > Newspapers from 1870 Federal Census, Albany NY > > Name Type schedule > circulation > -------------------------------- > Albany Argus Pol&News Daily > 4700 > Albany Arugs Pol&News semiweekly 3300 > Albany Argus Pol&News weekly > 9000 > Evening Post Pol&News daily > 1500 > Evening Journal Pol&News daily > 5500 > Evening Journal Pol&News daily > 19000 > Knickerbocker Pol&News daily > 2000 > Express Pol&News daily > 6000 > Catholic Chronicle Religous weekly > 500 > Cultivation Agrigulture weekly > 15000 > Fire Blater(?) Pol&News weekly > 500 > Albany Times Pol&News daily > 1000 > Albany Law Journal Law monthly > 500 > Cohoes Cataract Pol&News weekly 800 > West Troy Democrat Pol&News weekly 900 > Coeyman's Gazette Pol&News weekly 600 > > > Also, are all of these newspapers available in microfilm format? > > > From [log in to unmask] Wed Sep 27 15:44:40 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07704; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:44:39 -0400 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:53:59 -0400 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:47:40 -0400 From: William Evans <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Student Researach Award content-length: 8028 STUDENT RESEARCH AWARDS AVAILABLE FROM STATE ARCHIVES The State Archives and Records Administration announces its sixth annual Student Research Awards to promote and recognize excellence in student research. The purpose of the award is to encourage students to explore the wealth of historical records found in archives, libraries, businesses, community organizations, local governments (e.g., schools, towns, counties, etc.), historical societies, families, and individuals throughout New York State. There are two awards: one for a student or group of students grades 6-8, and one for a student or group of students grades 9-12. All student research award entries must be the result of student research using historical records. Some examples of historical records are: *Personal papers, such as original letters, diaries, journals, photographs, and drawings *Business records, such as ledgers, correspondence and advertisements *Local government records, such as minutes of board meetings, tax assessment maps, engineering and highway records, police and court records, and school district records *Community organization records, such as church membership, financial and social action records and *State and national records including census records, vital records, property records, wills and probate records. The product of the research may be a traditional research paper; an exhibit; an audiovisual production; a performance; a work of fiction or drama; a proposal for designation of a historic marker, property or district; or a document packet or other curriculum material for future use by students and teachers. Research products prepared for other competitions, e.g., History Day, will be eligible if they meet other relevant criteria, especially use of historical records. Each award includes a certificate and a cash prize, which represents the income from a fund established by a donation from a former member of the Board of Regents. Certificates of Merit will be awarded to those entries, other than the winners, that demonstrate a substantial reliance on historical records to support their research. Last year's winners in the 6-8 category used historical records from Arlington Central School District to create an exhibit that showed how their school responded to World War II. Using high school "General Bulletins" from 1941-1945, the students illustrated and described the following subjects: "Arlington Participation in Funding the War," "Emergency Farming," "Events Arlington High Participated in Concerning the War," "Air Raid Drills and Fire Drills," and "Attitudes Towards War: A Comparison Between Past and Present." In the 9-12 category, last year's winner used family historical records, records from the Columbia County Court House, Columbia County Surrogate Court, Olana State Historic Site's David Huntington Archives, and the New York State Bridge Authority to research the history of his grandparent's farm. The applicant integrated historical records, personal interviews, and his own experiences and reflections to tell the story of the farm from when it was frequented by the Mahican and Mohawk Indians to the present day. Applications must be postmarked on or before June 1, 1996. The awards will be announced during New York Archives Week, October, 1996. For more information, and to receive a copy of the award guidelines and an application, call or write as follows: Julie Daniels Student Research Awards State Archives and Records Administration 10A46 Cultural Education Center Albany, NY 12230 518-473-8037. Date: 09/27/1995 03:10 pm (Wednesday) From: William Evans To: inet:"[log in to unmask]" STUDENT RESEARCH AWARDS AVAILABLE FROM STATE ARCHIVES The State Archives and Records Administration announces its sixth annual Student Research Awards to promote and recognize excellence in student research. The purpose of the award is to encourage students to explore the wealth of historical records found in archives, libraries, businesses, community organizations, local governments (e.g., schools, towns, counties, etc.), historical societies, families, and individuals throughout New York State. There are two awards: one for a student or group of students grades 6-8, and one for a student or group of students grades 9-12. All student research award entries must be the result of student research using historical records. Some examples of historical records are: *Personal papers, such as original letters, diaries, journals, photographs, and drawings *Business records, such as ledgers, correspondence and advertisements *Local government records, such as minutes of board meetings, tax assessment maps, engineering and highway records, police and court records, and school district records *Community organization records, such as church membership, financial and social action records and *State and national records including census records, vital records, property records, wills and probate records. The product of the research may be a traditional research paper; an exhibit; an audiovisual production; a performance; a work of fiction or drama; a proposal for designation of a historic marker, property or district; or a document packet or other curriculum material for future use by students and teachers. Research products prepared for other competitions, e.g., History Day, will be eligible if they meet other relevant criteria, especially use of historical records. Each award includes a certificate and a cash prize, which represents the income from a fund established by a donation from a former member of the Board of Regents. Certificates of Merit will be awarded to those entries, other than the winners, that demonstrate a substantial reliance on historical records to support their research. Last year's winners in the 6-8 category used historical records from Arlington Central School District to create an exhibit that showed how their school responded to World War II. Using high school "General Bulletins" from 1941-1945, the students illustrated and described the following subjects: "Arlington Participation in Funding the War," "Emergency Farming," "Events Arlington High Participated in Concerning the War," "Air Raid Drills and Fire Drills," and "Attitudes Towards War: A Comparison Between Past and Present." In the 9-12 category, last year's winner used family historical records, records from the Columbia County Court House, Columbia County Surrogate Court, Olana State Historic Site's David Huntington Archives, and the New York State Bridge Authority to research the history of his grandparent's farm. The applicant integrated historical records, personal interviews, and his own experiences and reflections to tell the story of the farm from when it was frequented by the Mahican and Mohawk Indians to the present day. Applications must be postmarked on or before June 1, 1996. The awards will be announced during New York Archives Week, October, 1996 For more information, and to receive a copy of the award guidelines and an application, call or write as follows: Julie Daniels Student Research Awards State Archives and Records Administration 10A46 Cultural Education Center Albany, NY 12230 518-473-8037. From [log in to unmask] Wed Sep 27 19:03:43 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08063; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:03:42 -0400 Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA07936 for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:02:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:02:05 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: World War I records. content-length: 1547 In a message dated 95-09-27 09:46:12 EDT, you write: >In a message dated 95-09-26 10:36:19 EDT, you write: > >>but they want to know what unit he served in. That's >>what I'm trying to find out. > >WHY do you think they asked you? So that they would have the right answer to >give you!! On this message I made a "test" of what I am now certain happens and we should all be aware of it. To reply I "selected" the above comment and pressed the "reply" button. I then copied the private address of the original sender out of the header data and pasted it over the address to the entire list, then pressed the "send" button. The software did not recognize the change of address from the list to the original sender's private address, but sent my "wise crack" remark to the entire list. I have been embarrassed by this a few times before, and have alwasy been convinced by someone that my poor feeble mind is tricking me into just "thinking" I changed the address. Not true! We get all kinds of temper flare ups and exasperated comment on these idiots that clutter up our boxes with messages to the list that should have been addressed to a private individual only, especially with "unsubscribe" messages, and I think it is largely a software problem. I suggest when you write a reply in this manner, you state in the body of your letter: "This letter addressed to private individual's address, not the entire list." The double check before you hit that "send" or "send later" button. John G. Deal Palm Springs CA [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Thu Sep 28 09:25:38 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from LIBVAX1.MIDYORK.LIB.NY.US (LIBVAX1.2.247.198.IN-ADDR.ARPA) by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08989; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:25:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 9:26:22 GMT From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: World War I records. content-length: 415 About the flames that go inadvertently to the whole list: In addition to correcting a software problem, we could all be just a bit nicer in print. Saves embarrassment. Raises the whole tenor of the list. Makes us look much less mean spirited. Requires less apology. Gives people a positive impression of us instead of a negative one. Let's encourage civility by example. Mary Lou Caskey [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Thu Sep 28 11:18:10 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from SNYSUFAA.sunysuffolk.edu (snysufaa.cc.sunysuffolk.edu) by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09508; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:18:08 -0400 Received: by snysufaa.sunysuffolk.edu (MX V4.1 AXP) id 8; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:19:39 EDT Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:19:38 EDT From: KEVIN MCCOY <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RE: Albany Freie Blaetter content-length: 1777 Here's a little more information on the Freie Blaetter. It started publication in 1852, but the first issue (to our knowldege at least) to be found was 1857. It continued until 1912. At some point it changed its name to the Albany Freie Bleatter. Unfortunately only scattered issues of this paper have been found. If you are interested in a particular issue I can try to locate it for you. I would also like to take a moment to plug the New York State Newpspaper Project. We are try to locate every issue of every United States newspaper in the State of New York. The Albany Freie Blaetter is an example of the problems of trying to locate these valauble historic resources. The ultimate goal of the project is to microfilm as many of these papers so the information will be preserved for years to come. If you know of any inividual or institution has newspaper collection and would like to participate in the project, please call Bill Vann at (518) 474-7491, or Kevin McCoy at (516) 632-6656. You can also email me at the address listed below. Please feel free to call if you are trying to locate a particular newspaper. Kevin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kevin McCoy- Field Cataloger * Phone- (516) 632-6656 * * N.Y. State Newspaper Project * Fax- (516) 632-6662 * * Melville Library Building * Local Mail- mccoykj * * Suite E5310 * SUNYnet- ssufaa::mccoykj * * Stony Brook, N.Y. 11794-3399 * Internet- [log in to unmask] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Beware of all enterprises which require new clothes - Thoreau From [log in to unmask] Thu Sep 28 12:03:59 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from vms1.nysed.gov by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09685; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:03:58 -0400 Received: from unix2.nysed.gov ([149.10.64.24]) by vms1.nysed.gov with SMTP; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:07:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dos552.nysed.gov by unix2.nysed.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25111; Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:09:25 EDT Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:06:55 +0400 (EDT) From: Walter Cybulski <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Albany newspapers in 1870 -Forwarded X-Sender: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 4175 According to New York State Newspaper Project records, here are the titles known to have been published in Albany County circa 1870: 1. Albany Evening Journal (daily) 1830-1925, New York State Library (NYSL) has on film (FM) 2. Albany Evening Post (daily) 1865-1975; not filmed; no extant 1870 issues 3. Albany Evening Times (daily), 1869-1881, NYSL has FM 4. Albany Freie Blatter (German, umlaut over the a in "Blatter", daily) 1852-1912; only a few extant issues, NYSL has some on film; no extant 1870 issues 5. Albany Journal (semiweekly), 1830-1899 NYSL has FM 6. Albany Journal (daily = Albany Evening Journal, see above) 7. Albany Journal (weekly, listed in Rowell but cannot verify that any were published, let alone are extant) 8. Albany Knickerbocker (daily), 1867-1877; none filmed; NYSL has one 1870 issue 9. Albany Morning Express (daily), 1857-1898 NYSL has FM 10. Argus (Albany, NY: daily) 1865-1921, NYSL has FM NYS Newspaper Project filmed 1883-1921 11. Argus (Albany, NY: semiweekly), 1865-1907; some NYSL FM, but no 1870 issues; NY Historical has 1870 issues 12. Argus (Albany, NY: weekly), 1865-1894 none filmed; NYSL has 1870 issues 13. Coeymans Gazette, 1863-18?? none filmed; no extant 1870 issues 14. Cohoes Cataract, 1849-1881 NYSL has FM 15. Cohoes Democrat, 1870-1871 NYSL has 1871 FM, but no 1870 issues extant 16. Green Island Review, 1800-1884, none filmed, no 1870 extant 17. Albany County Democrat, 1860-1884 none filmed, no 1870 ext. NOT CONSIDERED NEWSPAPERS: Cultivator and Country Gentleman (weekly - filmed) Albany Law Journal (weekly, filmed) Colt's Scientific Advertiser (monthly, none extant?) Catholic Chronicle (cannot find any information on this title) Hope this is of use. Walter Cybulski, Preservation Coordinator, New York State Newspaper Project (518-474-7491). On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Vicki Weiss wrote: > Received: from host (localhost) by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) > id AA04922; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:05:23 -0400 > Received: from TSOD.LMIG.COM by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) > id AA04549; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:01:00 -0400 > Received: by TSOD.LMIG.COM > (Soft-Switch Central V4L380P3); 26 Sep 1995 13:35:13 GMT > Message-Id: <MSMAIL.GRAVESM.8204.1995 0926 13 35 13 35> > Date: 26 Sep 1995 13:35:13 GMT > Reply-To: [log in to unmask] > Sender: [log in to unmask] > Precedence: bulk > From: "Graves-Maureen" <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Albany newspapers in 1870 > X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.1 -- ListProcessor by CREN > > > In doing some genealogy research, I came across this listing at the > start of the 1870 census for Albany. Since the records were microfilms > of handwritten documents, I apologize if I misread any of the entries - > one newspaper appeared to be the Fire Blater. Now I know this makes no > sense, but the handwriting was so difficult to read that I couldn't > figure it out. Can anyone corroborate this listing of newspapers in > circulation in Albany county in 1870? > > > Newspapers from 1870 Federal Census, Albany NY > > Name Type schedule > circulation > -------------------------------- > Albany Argus Pol&News Daily > 4700 > Albany Arugs Pol&News semiweekly 3300 > Albany Argus Pol&News weekly > 9000 > Evening Post Pol&News daily > 1500 > Evening Journal Pol&News daily > 5500 > Evening Journal Pol&News daily > 19000 > Knickerbocker Pol&News daily > 2000 > Express Pol&News daily > 6000 > Catholic Chronicle Religous weekly > 500 > Cultivation Agrigulture weekly > 15000 > Fire Blater(?) Pol&News weekly > 500 > Albany Times Pol&News daily > 1000 > Albany Law Journal Law monthly > 500 > Cohoes Cataract Pol&News weekly 800 > West Troy Democrat Pol&News weekly 900 > Coeyman's Gazette Pol&News weekly 600 > > > Also, are all of these newspapers available in microfilm format? > > > > From [log in to unmask] Thu Sep 28 14:21:09 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from sallib.sals.edu by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10012; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:21:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:23:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Sullivan <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: New York State Newspaper Project content-length: 748 As one of the sites holding the New York State Newspaper Project's Schenectady County microfilm, I'd like to echo Kevin McCoy's plug for the project. It's priceless research material. I'm using it as part of our long-term plan to index all the deaths and marriages in Schenectady newspapers, starting in 1822. For anyone interested, our indexes for 1822-62 are nearly complete, and we have many later years available. ===================================================================== Bob Sullivan [log in to unmask] Schenectady County Public Library 99 Clinton Street Voice: (518) 388-4500 Schenectady, NY 12305-2083 Fax: (518) 386-2241 From [log in to unmask] Thu Sep 28 15:48:58 1995 Return-Path: <@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:[log in to unmask]> Received: from UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10303; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 15:48:54 -0400 Message-Id: <9509281948.AA10303@unix10> Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6743; Thu, 28 Sep 95 15:48:50 EDT Received: from UBVM (NJE origin DENSMORE@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7781; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:51:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 13:49:35 EDT From: Christopher Densmore <[log in to unmask]> Subject: NYS Newspaper Indexes? To: [log in to unmask] content-length: 421 Is there a handy way to find which NYS newspapers have indexes-- other that the obvious TIMES and TRIBUNE? Either published indexes or card files in libraries or historical societies? Christopher Densmore University Archives, State University of New York at Buffalo 420 Capen Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260-2200 Phone: (716) 645-2916 Fax: (716) 645-3844 BITNET: [log in to unmask] INTERNET: [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Thu Sep 28 17:49:16 1995 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com by unix10 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10455; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:49:16 -0400 Received: by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA13786 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:52:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:52:02 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Researching blind history content-length: 934 In a message dated 95-09-27 23:39:46 EDT, you write: >In a message dated 95-09-26 02:47:08 EDT, you write: > >>history of the blind population in NY spanning the years 1642 - 1876. > >Not a whole lot happening regarding the blind in the US in those years -- not >a whole lot of US in 1642. The first school for the blind didn't happen >until 1829. Nothing really of much import between the invention of eye >glasses in 1285 by Alessandro de Spina and the invention of bifocals by Ben >Franklin in 1784. John Dollard came up with the achromatic lens in 1758, >B Dear List Subscribers, Here is ANOTHER case of a reply I made to a private individual that winds up posted to the entire list -- as it should not have been. I really said nothing of interest to ALL in my reply to this individual. My apologies for the inconveniece and cost. Someday we will track down the REASON for this happening all the time. [log in to unmask]