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Subject:      Edison Conference (fwd)
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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:08:59 -0500
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                     Conference Announcement

           THOMAS A. EDISON SESQUICENTENNIAL CONFERENCE
                      "INTERPRETING EDISON"

                         June 25-27, 1997

In recognition of the 150th anniversary of Thomas A. Edison's birth, the
National Park Service, Organization of American Historians and New Jersey
Studies Academic Alliance are pleased to announce a three-day conference,
"Interpreting Edison."  This conference, which will be held June 25-27,
1997 at Rutgers University-Newark and the Edison National Historic Site,
will examine the interpretation of Edison's life and work in academic
scholarship, at museums and historic sites, and in the classroom.

Scholars from the United States, Canada and Europe will present new
research on Edison's role as inventor, business leader and cultural
figure.  Representatives from five major U.S. Edison-related sites will
discuss their interpretative and museum management programs.  There will
also be a series of sessions designed to help teachers integrate
Edison-related themes into the history curriculum.

In the opening session, distinguished historians Ruth S. Cowan, David Nye,
Thomas Schlereth, John M. Staudenmeier and Alan Trachtenberg will offer
their insights on Edison's place in American history.

Other highlights of the conference include a virtual tour of Edison's
reconstructed Menlo Park Laboratory at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn,
Michigan; lunch on the grounds of Edison's estate, Glenmont; and a
demonstration of the Library of Congress early motion picture webpage.
Edison descendant and University of New Haven professor David Edison
Sloane will speak about the Edison family at the conference banquet.

For more information about the conference, or registration details, please
contact:

               Leonard DeGraaf
               Edison National Historic Site
               Main Street and Lakeside Avenue
               West Orange, New Jersey 07052
               201-736-0550, ext. 22
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Amy,

There is one text devoted to Austen's life and work written by Ann
Novotny. Title is ALICE'S WORLD:..... Might help if you haven't already
seen it.

Michael Recht

On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 [log in to unmask] wrote:

> I am doing research on the photographer Alice Austen.  Does anyone out there
> have any information on this nineteenth century photographer who was born and
> lived in Staten Island (1866-1952)?  I have been to the Museum on SI and the
> SI historical society.  Right now I am hoping to locate letters that Austen
> may have written to relatives and friends in the Catskill and Adirondack
> areas.  Also I am looking for photographs that may not be in the collections
> on Staten Island.  Thank you. Amy
> 

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Marshall Sylvanus Driggs (b. 1834) was President of the Williamsburgh City
Fire Insurance Company in the 1890's - but I don't know if it's his namesake,
or when.

Christopher Gray
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	In October of 1885, a "few" women attempted to vote in the
presidential election in Ithaca.  The newspaper account states that they
did not succeed in depositing their ballots and nothing further is
mentioned of the episode.

	I know that in 1872 Susan B. Anthony attempted to vote in the
presidential election.  She was stopped, arrested, and fined $100 which she
didn't pay and the county officials refused to press the matter thereby
preventing her from taking her case to a higher court.

	Are there other episodes of New York women attempting to vote
before  being granted the right?

	In the nineteenth century, some women voted in school board
elections.  Were those qualifications set by the state or by the various
counties?

	With appreciation for any examples any of you might have.

			Carol Kammen
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	In the
"History of Woman Suffrage" edited by Susan B. Anthony et al. (1902;rept,1970;
4:854) there's reference to a New York 1880 law "which conferred School
Suffrage on women in villages and country districts" from which I infer that
it's the state which set qualifications (though it also notes there had been
questions re constitutionality of the law).
	If there were other examples of women voting in New York in the 19th
century, I would think it should be mentioned in this detailed compilation.  I
did not find any examples in researching the suffrage movement on Long Island.
			Natalie Naylor, Hofstra
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Professor Kammen,
Per your question of women voting, have you considered looking at
corporate records. It has long been known that women owned significant
chunks of corporations in New England by the 1830s and I know from
my own research that women owned as much as a quarter of banks in New York
and Philadelphia as early as the 1790s. What I have yet to uncover is
whether women stockholders could vote in corporate elections for directors
&c. They certainly could not be told they did not have a "stake" in the
institution. Most votes would have been given by proxy but is a vote
nonetheless and no further removed than voting for president through the
electoral college. This notion struck me during the writing phase of my
research and I have been unable to follow up. There may be relevant corp.
records at Cornell. One final thought: it seems the early suffragists came
from the same socio-eco. groups that owned the corporate stock. It may
even be that voting in corporate elections spurred their desire to vote
in governmental elections. If you would like further particulars, feel
free to contact me.

Yours,
Robert Wright

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We have a couple of references of women voting in Saginaw Michigan
before WWI, and another curious case that I found out about
involved a black man who tried to vote in an election in Saginaw
County in the 1860's.  He was prevented from doing so because of
his race.  He protested and said that he was of Indian descent 
and eligible under the law.  Long ago I lost this newspaper
reference date and was hoping to check  in our courthouse
records because he supposedly went to court over it.
Has anyone ever heard of a similar case elsewhere?

Anna Mae Maday
Eddy Historical & Genealogy Collection
Hoyt Public Library
505 Janes Ave
Saginaw MI 48607
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Thanks for the interesting examples.  I don't know of any instances here
when African Amrican men attempted to vote, but I will follow up on this as
I do have a list of property owners.  In NY, until the passage of the 15th
amend. a man had to have property worth 250 to vote.  with appreciation,
carol kammen


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Robert Wright

	Thanks for the very interesting suggestions.  I certainly had never
considered this corporate angle before.  Though, I do know that Kate
Gleason of Rochester became an early bank president after some hesitation
on the part of the board -- and I might not have this exactly right --
about allowing her to vote.  I really don't know the story well; but it
might work with your suggestions.

	Thanks for the help.  carol kammen


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January	=09

The Middlesex County, New Jersey, Committee of Observations councils
all patriots to live frugally and avoid any materials printed by New
York City Loyalist printer James Rivington.    **    The <italic>HMS
Kingfisher</italic> ties up in New York City's Turtle Bay. Admiral
Graves advises captains to stay moored away from piers, to discourage
the desertion of crews.    **    New York State's Assembly rejects a
proposal to consider Congressional proceedings. The vote is 11 to 10.


=46eb 2	=09

A subcommittee of the Congressional Association in New York City
prevents the unloading of cargo from Glasgow, aboard the ship
<italic>James</italic>.


March

New York's Assembly forwards a Memorial to the House of Lords, a
Petition to King George and a Remonstrance to the House of Commons.


April

The immigrant ship <italic>Jenny </italic>sails from Hull, England, to
Nova Scotia. Among the passengers is William Johnson, traveling to New
York's Mohawk Valley to claim his estate.    **    Benedict Arnold
informs the Committee of Safety at Cambridge that Fort Ticonderoga is
in no condition to withstand an assault.


May

The <italic>Jackie of Glasgow </italic>leaves Stranraer, Scotland, with
81 passengers aboard, bound for New York colony.    **    The Reverend
Myles Cooper, president of New York City's Kings college and a Tory
pamphleteer, is forced to flee his home when confronted with a mob.  =20
**    Congress resolves to ban exports to the port of Boston and the
British fisheries, excepting St. John's Parish in Georgia. It also
decides to abandon Crown Point and Fort Ticonderoga, rmoving all stores
to the southern end of Lake George.    **    Ethan Allen and Benedict
Arnold write to Congress from Crown Point, advocating the retention of=20
the forts at Crown Point and Ticonderoga.


May 10	=09

Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold capture Fort Ticonderoga.


May 12	=09

Seth Warren's troops seize Crown Point on Lake Champlain from the
British. They confiscate a schooner from loyalist Major Philip Skeene.


May 23	=09

A provincial congress meets in New York City to oppose the Tory party
in the colony.


June

The <italic>Favourite </italic>registers a voyage to the colonies at
Whitehaven, England.


Jun 8	=09

Commissioners of the Scots American Company leave New York City to
explore lands to the north.


August	=09

The <italic>Favourite </italic> reaches New York City.    **  =20
American brigadier general Richard Montgomery leaves Crown Point  with
1200 men, for Montr=E9al.    **    Some New York residents, fearing the
city may be attacked by the <italic>HMS Asia</italic>, evacuate the
city.    **    The New York Provincial Congress alerts the Pennsylvania
Committee of Safety to the danger of war and requests they keep their
militia raedy to come to New York's aid.    **    Virginia-born
Nathaniel Rochester, now a resident of North Carolina, attends his
colony's first provincial convention, as a member. He's given a major's
commission and appointed a justice of the peace.


September

Congress selects New York delegate Samuel Lewis to buy wool to clothe
army troops.


Sep 4	=09

The ship <italic>Glasgow </italic>leaves Fort William, Scotland, with
251 emigrants aboard.


Oct 31	=09

The <italic>Glasgow </italic>arrives off New York City and is sent on
to Boston by city officials acting on Admiral

Graves orders.


November

James Whitelaw, David Allen and James Henderson begin laying out the
site for Ryegate for the Scots American Company.    **    Isaac Sears
and other Connecticut rebels raid loyalist printer Rivington and remove
his type. The General Committee considers a request to investigate.

December

 New York governor Tryon has the colony's public records pertaining to
the Crown loaded onto the armed ship <italic>Duchess of
Gordon</italic>. They will remain there until November of 1781.



City

The population reaches 25.000.


State

The Iroquous attempt to remain neutral.


Pennsylvania

New York State pioneer Moses Van Campen takes part in a military
expedition against New England settlers in New York's Wyoming Valley,
becomes a militia captain, remaining in Pennsylvania.=20


Vermont

A convention held in Cumberland County advocates a Crown Province
separate from New York and New Hampshire, named Vermont.



1776

January

Colonel Heard of the New Jersey forces arrives in New York State's
Queens County by order on Congress, to compel loyalists to yield their
arms, The ringleaders cannot be located.


Jan 24	=09

Colonel Henry Knox arrives in Cambridge, Massachusetts, with 43 cannon
and 16 mortars captured at Ticonderoga.


=46ebruary

New York congressional delegate Francis Lewis is authorized to buy
shoes for the army. He will find a supplier in New Jersey.


=46eb 15	=09

James Whitelaw borrows =A3100 from the Scots American Company treasury to
pay for Ryegate's mills.


April

Wagons loaded with powder for New York are moved from Boston to
Norwich, Connecticut. Private David Howe is part of the escort.


Apr 13	=09

Washington begins moving his troops to New York City to keep General
Howe away.=20


May

The citizens of Ryegate meet to select military officers.


May 1	=09

Arnold begins moving his troops away from futile siege of Montr=E9al,
headed for the Lake Champlain region.


May 29	=09

The New York committee advocates independence.


June

John Gansevent sells his property, Oswald Field, south of Albany to
John Cumming.    **    A council of war meeting in Sorel, Canada,
recommends Sullivan and his forces retire to  Crown Point.    **    New
York City's public records are removed to Kingston for safekeeping.


Jun 4	=09

General Lee arrives in Charles Town, South Carolina, from New York.


Jun 27	=09

Thomas Hickey, one of George Washington's guards, is hanged in New York
City for plotting to kidnap Washington for the British, becoming the
first person to be executed by the U. S. Army.


Jun 29	=09

General Howe and his brother, Vice Admiral Richard Howe, arrive off
Staten Island, in New York Bay, with a large fleet.


Jun 30	=09

General Howe disembarks his troops.


Jul 2	=09

Twelve colonies, New York abstaining, vote to support Richard Henry
Lee's resolution for independence.=20


Jul 7	=09

Albany loyalist John Johnson is permitted to form the King's Royal
Regiment, of fellow loyalists, in Canada.


Jul 9	=09

New York votes to endorse the Declaration. The Declaration is
proclaimed in Philadelphia.    **    A provincial congress in the
Hudson Valley declares itself to be the legitimate legislature of New
York State.    **    The equestrian statue of King George III in New
York City's Bowling Green is toppled by citizens gathered to hear the
reading of the Declaration.


Jul 11	=09

The Declaration of Independence is published by New York's
<italic>Packet</italic> and <italic>Journal</italic> and Annapolis'
<italic>Gazette</italic>.=20


Jul 12	=09

Vice Admiral Howe arrives off Staten Island with 150 transports of
reinforcements, raising the total area British forces to 32,000.


August

David Bushnell's prototype submarine <italic>American Turtle</italic>
penetrates the Bristish fleet in New York harbor but his operator Ezra
Lee fails to attach his bomb to an enemy ship.


Aug 1	=09

Sir Henry Clinton's forces join those of General Howe on Staten Island
after arriving from Charles Town.


Aug 22	=09

General Howe moves 20,000 troops from Staten Island to Brooklyn.


Aug 25	=09

General Howe moves around behind Washington's forces on Brooklyn
Heights.


Aug 27	=09

The Battle of Long Island. Washington's army, under Israel Putnam,
Sullivan and William Alexander, is defeated.


Aug 29	=09

Without the knowledge of the British, Washington withdraws his army to
Manhattan.=20


September

The New York State Convention requests that Washington remove all
public bells and move them to New Jersey for safe keeping from the
British seeking materials fo casting cannon.    **    Washington writes
from Harlem Heights to general Hugh Mercer in New Jersey, directing him
to set up an intelligence network to monitor the movements of Admiral
Howe's ships.    **    Congress authorizes replacing the phrase "United
Colonies" with "United States" in all American commissions and
authorizes Washington to abandon New York City if necessary.    **  =20
Benedict Arnold calls upon Congress to provide winter clothing, rum and
artillery.    **    Washington's Council of War begins recommending
evacuation of New York City.


Sep 6	=09

A peace conference is held on Staten Island. General Howe demands the
Declaration be revoked and the American commissioners (John Adams,
Benjamin Franklin and John Rutledge) refuse.


Sep 12	=09

Washington decides to evacuate New York City, begins moving troops
north.


Sep 15	=09

The British land at Kips Bay, on the eastern shore of Manhattan.
Washington retreats to Harlem Heights.


Sep 16	=09

Washington repulses General Howe at Harlem Heights. The battle delays
the British advance.


Sep 21	=09

=46ire sweeps New York City, destroying 300 buildings. Nathan Hale is
arrested by the British.


Sep 22	=09

Nathan Hale  is hanged as a spy by the British, in New York City.


October

Congress discusses uniforms for Rhode Island forces and has $500,000
sent by wagon to New York to pay bounties for reenlistment.


Oct 5	=09

British warships force their way up the Hudson, past the defenses at
=46ort Lee, New Jersey and Fort Washington, New York.


Oct 11	=09

Arnold's make-shift fleet delays a British Navy under Sir Guy Carleton
at Valcour Island, in Lake Champlain.


Oct 12	=09

Clinton takes his forces through Hell Gate to Throg's Neck, Long
Island, escorted by the <italic>HMS Craysfort</italic>.


Oct 13	=09

The surviving U. S. fleet on Champlain is destroyed at Split Rock.


Oct 18	=09

The British advance out of New York City, transferred from Throg's
Neck, is delayed by a U. S. defense at Pell's Point.


Oct 23	=09

Washington evacuates Manhattan, marches toward White Plains.


Oct 28	=09

General Howe defeats Washington at White Plains, forcing him to
withdraw to North Castle.


November

Lord Germain writes from London to Vice Admiral Howe, praising him for
his success in New York.


Nov 1	=09

 U. S. troops burn barns in White Plains. Washington orders the
commander court-martialled.


Nov 16	=09

General Howe and 13,000 troops capture 2,818 Americans at Fort
Washington.


Nov 18	=09

Washington abandons New York, retreats across the Hudson, starts west
through NewJersey.


Nov 26	=09

New York's Committee of Safety meets at Fishkill, decides to build a
chevaux de frise across the Hudson River from Pollopel (later
Bannerman's) Island to Plum Point, to deny British vessels access to
the northern portions of the river.



Manufacturing

Paper maker Nathan Sellers joins the Continental Army but is soon put
to work in his professional capacity, to provide the material for
currency.


Medicine

The New York Hospital is founded.


City

Washington begins strengthening the city's fortifications early in the
summer, fortifying Manhattan, Governor's Island, Red Hook, and Brooklyn
Heights, as well as areas of New Jersey.    **    David Matthews is
appointed mayor for the next nine one-year terms.


State

Andrew Brock is named treasurer of Ryegate.     **    John Church sells
half of his upstate holdings to John Pagan.     **    Geologist Amos
Eaton is born.    **    English Shakers arrive in Albany County from
New York City; organize themselves into the Watervliet Society of the
United Society of Believers in Christ's First and Second Appearing.   =20
 **    The first ships of the U. S. Navy are built at Skenesborough
(laer Whitehall).



1777

January

New York State Loyalist John Cumming goes into New York City to
discover how to handle his delicate political situation, refuses a
commission in the British army.


Jan 2	=09

Cornwallis heads south out of New York.


Jan 15	=09

The New Hampshire Grants, claimed by New York and New Hampshire,
declare their independence, as the "republic" of New Connecticut.


Jan 29	=09

British general John Burgoyne begins making his plans for the conquest
of the colonies.


=46eb 28	=09

Burgoyne meets with Lord George Germain in London and presents his plan
for an attack on U. S. forces in New York State.


March

John Cumming is arrested and jailed by New York as dangerous to the
rebellion.


Apr 20	=09

A state constitutional convention, meeting in Kingston creates New York
State.


Jun 17	=09

Burgoyne begins his campaign south from Canada, along the
Champlain-Hudson waterways.


July

George Clinton takes office as New York State's first governor.


Jul 1	=09

Burgoyne's troops arrive at Fort Ticonderoga. He issues a warning
proclamation to the colonists.


Jul 5	=09

General St Clair abandons Ticonderoga.


Jul 6	=09

Burgoyne moves into Ticonderoga, capturing important American
supplies.


Jul 7	=09

The Americans retreating from Ticonderoga are defeated at Hubbartton,
Vermont.


Jul 23	=09

Howe sails from New York to capture Philadelphia.


Jul 26	=09

Colonel Barry St. Leger's army ascends the Oswego River.


Jul 27	=09

Settler Jane McCrea is murdered by Burgoyne's Indians.


Jul 29	=09

U. S. general Philip Schuyler abandons Fort Edwards, retreats down the
Hudson Valley.


Aug 3	=09

St. Leger begins a siege of Fort Stanwix in the Mohawk Valley.


Aug 6	=09

A force under Nicholas Herkimer, including Oneida Indian troops, coming
to the aid of Fort Stanwix, is ambushed at Oriskany, New York, by
Loyalists, and Mohawks under their chief Joseph Brant. Herkimer is
mortally wounded. St. Leger fails to take Stanwix.


Aug 22	=09

Arnold arrives at Fort Stanwix with reinforcements. St. Leger ends his
siege, returns to Canada.


September

John Cumming escapes and is recaptured.


Sep 9	=09

The first New York State legislature meets, in Kingston. It soon
adjourns.


Sep 19	=09

The first Battle of Saratoga (or Freeman's Farm). General Daniel Morgan
and Colonel Henry Dearborn defeat Burgoyne's forces.    **    The
Oneida chief Honyere dines with General Schuyler in Albany and agrees
to aid Gates' army.


October

James Whitelaw discovers that the Scots American Company has not
honored his 1776 draft to build Ryegate 's mills and has dismissed him
as manager, for exceeding his authority.


Oct 3	=09

Sir Henry Clinton moves north out of New York City, captures two forts
on the Hudson.


Oct 7	=09

The second Battle of Saratoga (Bemis Heights). Gates, Arnold, Morgan
and General Ebenezer Learned defeat, and capture Burgoyne's forces.


Oct 16	=09

Clinton burns Esopus (Kingston), heads back to Manhattan, abandoning
any attempt to reach Burgoyne. State records were removed to Rochester
township in Ulster County when the British were sighted.


Oct 17	=09

Burgoyne formally surrenders his forces to Gates - the Convention of
Saratoga.


City

The Council of Appointment is formed, to appoint the city's mayors.


State - The village of Bern raises a militia company of 85.    **  =20
The crown post of Secretary of State falls under the jursidiction of
the Council of Appointment.    **    A chain across the Hudson at Fort
Montgomery fails to halt British ships.



1778

March	=09

New York 's Secretary of State and various county clerks are advised to
pack up all government records, in case it becomes necessary to
evacuate them.


May

=46ifty Oneida Indians arrive at Valley Forge and almost immediately
participate in the action at Barren Hill under Lafayette.


May 30	=09

300 Iroquois, goaded by the British, burn Cobleskill.


Jun 18	=09

Sir Henry Clinton's forces evacuate Philadelphia, begin marching to New
York. U. S. civilians move into the city.


Jul 5	=09

Clinton's forces embark in barges from New Jersey's Sandy Hook, headed
for New York City.


Jul 8		=20

Washington sets up headquarters at West Point.


Jul 9	=09

The Articles of Confederation are signed in Philadelphia by
Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania,
Virginia and South Carolina.


Nov 11	=09

Tories and Iroquois Indians, lead by Sir John Butler and Joseph Brant,
massacre settlers of Cherry Valley.



State

=46uture Syracuse pioneer Ephraim Webster enlists in the Continental
Army.


1779

May 31	=09

The British under Clinton take Stony Point and Verplanck Point, on the
Hudson.


June

The Oneida chief Honyere is commissioned as a captain in the U. S.
Army.


Jun 18	=09

The Sullivan expedition, under General John Sullivan, leaves Easton,
Pennsylvania. Among the expedition is future Le Roy pioneer Captain
John Ganson.


July

New York's royal governor Tryon leads an expedition along the
Connecticut coast, burning Fairfield, Norwalk, and ships in New Haven
harbor.


Jul 15	=09

Mad Anthony Wayne, guided by the black soldier Pompey, retakes Stony
Point from the British, capturing the entire garrison.


Aug 11	=09

Sullivan's forces ford the Susquehanna at its junction with the Tioga
River, reach the former site of Tioga, march on to the Indian town of
Shamong(Chemung), arriving in the evening to find it evacuated. They
destroy crops and return to Tioga.


Aug 26	=09

Delayed a day by heavy rain, Sullivan's forces depart Tioga.


Aug 29	=09

John Sullivan and James Clinton defeat Loyalist commander Sir John
Johnson and Joseph Brant, at Newtown near Elmira, ridding the colony of
Loyalists and their Indian allies.  Cornplanter, Red Jacket and
Handsome Lake fight on the British side.


Sep 1	=09

General Sullivan begins a two-week series of retaliatory raids against
the Seneca and Cayuga Indian villages throughout central New York's
=46inger Lake region. After the Seneca defeat at Newtown they end up at
Niagara. Sullivan arrives at the deserted Indian village of French
Catharine (named for a former captive) by midnight.


Sep 2	=09

Lieutenant William Barton, of Sullivan's forces, reconnoitres the area
around Seneca Lake.   =20


Sep 5	=09

Sullivan arrives at the village of Appletown (Kendae, Condoy), already
fired by the Indians.   =20


Sep 7	=09

Sullivan crosses the outlet of Seneca Lake and arrives at the Indian
capital, Kanadasaga (Canadesaga, Cunnusedago, known today as Geneva).

=20

Sep 10	=09

Sullivan reaches Genessee Lake (Canandaigua Lake) burns the village of
Kanandarqua (Veruneudaga, today's Canandaigua).


Sep 11	=09

Sullivan reaches Onyauyah (Honeoye).


Sep 12	=09

Sullivan nears Genesee Castle or Little Beard's Town (Cuylerville),
named for its chief


Sep 13	=09

Sullivan reaches Canessah (Conesus, or Big Tree's Town), defeating an
Indian force there, then forges on to Casawavalatetah, on a small
barnch of the Genesee River, and encamps. He sends Lieutenant Thomas
Boyd to scout the area of Genesee Castle. Boyd takes a party of 28
(including  the Oneida chief Honyere (Hanyerry) and Captain Jehoiakim,
a Stockbrige Indian). Not knowing the way, they arrive at
Gatht-seg-war-o-hare, about five miles south-southeast of their goal.
Boyd sends four men to report back to Sullivan, and has an Indian
horseman killed in the deserted village. Three other mounted Indians
escape, sound the alarm. Boyd begins the return to Sullivan, sends two
men ahead. They return and advise Boyd that five Indians are ahead on
the trail. Despite advice from Hanyerry, Boyd pursues and is ambushed
by a party of over 500 Indians and Tories. He and Michael Parker are
taken prisoner and taken to Cuylerville. Questioned, they refuse to buy
their freedom with information, and are tortured to death, then
beheaded.


Sep 14	=09

Sullivan's forces reach Little Beard's Town, find the remains of Boyd
and Parker, bury them that night.   =20

Sep 15	=09

Sullivan burns the Indians' crops and food supply. He declares that the
objectives of the mission have been met.


Sep 16	=09

The bodies of the remainder of Boyd's party are found at Canessah
(Conesus, or Big Tree's Town), all (including Hanyerry) mutilated. They
are buried that day.


Sep 17	=09

Sullivan returns to Honeoye.


Sep 18	=09

Sullivan returns to Canandaigua.


Sep 19	=09

Sullivan returns to Kanadasaga.


Sep 30	=09

Sullivan reports to Congress that his forces have destoryed forty
villages and at least 160,000 bushels of corn, losing under forty men.
They have also cut down or girdled fruit trees all along the way.


Oct 15	=09

Sullivan and Clinton's forces arrive back at Easton, Pennsylvania.



Pennsylvania

Militiaman Moses Van Campen joins Washington's army as a quartermaster;
marches into New York State with Sullivan.











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David Minor

Eagles Byte Historical Research

Rochester, New York

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As I recall the story, SBA was permitted to vote, and charged after the
fact.  Gerrit Smith (htp://www.SBH.org/gsmith.htm) in one of his printed
letters, sent Anthony the money and urged her to pay the fine, or to put
the money to some other good purpose.  (The fine was not paid.)

On the school board elections, there's a booklet in the state library of
a paper written by Barbara Rivette titled Matilda Joslyn Gage -
Fayetteville's First Woman Voter.  As I recall, the paper discusses the
passage of the law allowing women to vote in these elections.  Gage
(http://www.nps.gov/wori/gage.htm, co-editor with Stanton & Anthony of
the first three volumes of A History of Woman Suffrage) was given the
honor of being first in line.

Bob Shear
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David Minor wrote:
> 
> 1775
> January
> The Middlesex County, New Jersey, Committee of Observations councils
> all patriots to live frugally and avoid any materials printed by New
> York City Loyalist printer James Rivington. ** The HMS Kingfisher ties
> up in New York City's Turtle Bay. Admiral Graves advises captains to
> stay moored away from piers, to discourage the desertion of crews. **
> New York State's Assembly rejects a proposal to consider Congressional
> proceedings. The vote is 11 to 10.
> 
> Feb 2
> A subcommittee of the Congressional Association in New York City
> prevents the unloading of cargo from Glasgow, aboard the ship James.
> 
> March
> New York's Assembly forwards a Memorial to the House of Lords, a
> Petition to King George and a Remonstrance to the House of Commons.
> 
> April
> The immigrant ship Jenny sails from Hull, England, to Nova Scotia.
> Among the passengers is William Johnson, traveling to New York's
> Mohawk Valley to claim his estate. ** Benedict Arnold informs the
> Committee of Safety at Cambridge that Fort Ticonderoga is in no
> condition to withstand an assault.
> 
>r of 1781.
> 
> City
> The population reaches 25.000.
> 
> State
> The Iroquous attempt to remain neutral.
> 
> Pennsylvania
> New York State pioneer Moses Van Campen takes part in a military
> expedition against New England settlers in New York's Wyoming Valley,
> becomes a militia captain, remaining in Pennsylvania.

Very excellent, thank you... but I'm confused about NY going against Wyoming 
Valley New England Settlers, were the New England Settlers loyalist? Wasn't Wyoming 
Valley still considered Connecticutt?

Art Prutzman




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> David Minor
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David, I believe you mean Seth Warner's
troops captured Crown Point. Warner was
a militia officer from the Hampshire
Grants, a Green Mountain Boy type who
would also fight later at Bennington and
with his brothers Henry and Heman be
among the early settlers of Onondaga
County - the hamlet of Warner's, New
York, is named for them and they are
buried there. I believe the Warners got
their land as post-Revolutionary Bounty
Rights. A number of their descendants,
none named Warner, remain in the area,
including my family. We have Warner's
British Tower musket, the Brown Bess he
carried through the Revolution.

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Professor Kammen,
FYI, New York dropped the property requirement for voting in local
and state elections partially in the constitution of 1821 and completely
a few years later. There is quite a bit of lit. about this and also
about the debates in the constitutional convention re: black suffrage
in N.Y. Blacks did vote legally in N.Y. under the first constitution if
they met the property requirements. The requirements for voting for the
assembly were lower than for those of the senate and governor. I don't
have the citations on me, but can supply them if you like.
Yours,
Bob W.

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Prof. Kammen:

Susan B. Anthony's case in fact went to trial and is reported in part, in 
regard to a motion for a new trial, at _United States v. Anthony_, 24 
F.Cas. 829 (C.C.N.D.N.Y. 1873) (No. 14,459), which is certainly available 
to you at the Cornell law school library.

Cheers,
Professor T. J. Davis, Ph.D., J.D.
Department of History
Arizona State University
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On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, carol kammen wrote:

> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 21:49:53 -0500 (EST)
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> 
> 	In October of 1885, a "few" women attempted to vote in the
> presidential election in Ithaca.  The newspaper account states that they
> did not succeed in depositing their ballots and nothing further is
> mentioned of the episode.
> 
> 	I know that in 1872 Susan B. Anthony attempted to vote in the
> presidential election.  She was stopped, arrested, and fined $100 which she
> didn't pay and the county officials refused to press the matter thereby
> preventing her from taking her case to a higher court.
> 
> 	Are there other episodes of New York women attempting to vote
> before  being granted the right?
> 
> 	In the nineteenth century, some women voted in school board
> elections.  Were those qualifications set by the state or by the various
> counties?
> 
> 	With appreciation for any examples any of you might have.
> 
> 			Carol Kammen
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> 
> 
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Re:  Woman suffrage inquiry by Carol Kammen

Laws of New York, 1880, Chapter 9, passed February 12, 1880, stated
that "no person shall be deemed to be ineligible to serve as any school
officer, or to vote at any school meeting, by reason of sex, who has the
other qualifications now required by law."  The act took effect
immediately.

The "other qualifications" referred to were the usual property and
residency requirements (which I do not have readily available to me).

Under this statute, women ran for the office of school trustee in union
free and common school districts, and also for the then-elective office of
Assembly District school commissioner (corresponds to present office of
District Superintendent in the BOCES regions).

The 1880 statute seems to have been widely publicized.  In my home
town of Cohocton, Steuben County, two women were elected to the
school board of the union free school district in the school election held
in the spring of 1880.  Women ran for school board and for rural school
district offices occasionally thereafter.  However, in Cohocton most
school district offices continued to be held by men.

James D. Folts
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The wife of Alfred University's president tried to vote in 1887.  The
following is the account as written in the book "An Offering to the memory
of Abigail Ann Allen by the Ladies' Literary Societies of Alfred University"
published after her death in 1902.
  "Mrs. Allen did not rest with theory or urge upon others duties she was not 
ready to assume, or plead for rights that she would not make sacrifice to
secure.  No one can forget those autumn days of '87 when every paper large or
small heralded in head lines the news that 'Ten Women of Alfred voted and their
votes were counted.   The wife of President Allen
The wife of President Allen at the head.'  Some one on the
ground should write of this for it was history in making.  It seems the horriblecrime was perpetrated at a municipal election early in the autumn.  The state
and national election followed in November.  Women were more and more demanding
the ballot.  Temperence women were especially active.  The saloon was interested.  Politicians were not indifferent.  Ten women had been counted in at a 
municipal election.  If legal at a local election, then what would occur in
November?  Verily there must be chastisement and that at once.  Accordinglyu
the officer was sent in quest of the offenders and papers were served.
    I suppose there has never been anything more amusing in all legal history
or more ridiculous.  Haste was the word.  The trial must be held immediately
to forestall further trouble.  Cases of long standing, gray headed with years,
were swept from the docket to make way.  In a few days all was over - arrested,
tried, convicted, sentenced, though the sentence as yet has not been served.
I trust that some participant will leave a full record of that spasm of virtue
that swept through Allegany office holders and spread to their kin throughout
the state.  Yet notwithstanding the swift punishment of these good women,
over one hundred women in the state offered their ballot that fall and about
fifty were counted in."

Laurie L. McFadden
Head of Special Collections
Alfred University
Alfred, NY  (Allegany County)
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  RE women voting in Alfred, New Yor.  There is record of one Lucy
Barber voting in the village in 1886, the year before Mrs. Allen
and 9 other ladies attempted it (as Laurie McFadden described).
A newspaper article quotes an earlier one (no date of course)
"...She was not to be argued with, for the account goes on to
say that they allowed her to vote.  She voted for congressional,
assembly and county ticket...After considerable haggling, it
was decided to allow Mrs. Barber to go free, because "she
probably wouldn't do it again,"..."
Sandra Scofield, Alfred Historical Society

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I am seeking information regarding a portrait of Christopher Columbus
given to the New York State Senate by Maria Farmer in 1784.

According to George Howell and Jonathan Tenney, History of the County of
Albany (New York, 1886), p. 448:

	"The old Senate Chamber is a very handsome room ... embellished
with portraits of three distinguished men--Christopher Columbus, George
Clinton and Stewart L. Woodward.  The first of these was presented to the
Senate, in 1784, by Maria Farmer, a descendant of the honest Jacob
Leisler, once de facto Governor of New York, murdered by his enemies for
high treason while guilty of no crime."

Maria Farmer was the daughter of Mary Leisler (widow of Jacob Milborne) 
and Abraham Gouverneur, and granddaughter of Jacob Leisler, who had assumed
the role of King William III's New York governor in 1689 and was executed
for treason in 1691.  Documentary evidence suggests that Jacob Leisler,
his children and grandchildren, following contemporary Continental
European patrician fashion trends, had extensive painting collections
including works of Dutch, French, German, Italian and Spanish origins as
well as curios from the East Indies and Africa.  An 18th-century portrait
of Columbus, if indeed it is a portrait of Columbus, is most unusual.  I
have been unable to discover the current whereabouts of the painting. 
Does anyone know if the painting is still in the possession of the state
or, if not, its present location?  Does any documentation exist relating
to the painting? 

I'm also interested in learning about any work (books, articles, papers
dissertations, etc.) that have been done on the collecting habits of
wealthy New York City (Manhattan only) families in the 17th and early 18th
centuries.  

David William Voorhees
Papers of Jacob Leisler  

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Laurie McFadden

	Thanks for such a lovely example.  It would make Josiah Allen's
wife proud!
	carol kammen


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For information on paintings I would suggest contacting the Frick Art
Reference Library if you have not already done so.  The aim of the Library
is to "gather photographs of paintings, drawings, and sculpture by leading
European artists fromthe fourth century to the early decades fo the
twentieth centruy, as wll as photographs of american art; to collate with
each photograph the facts relating to the object's history and present
location; and to create a comprehensive research library for the study of
European and American art of the same period."

The address is 10 East 71st Street, NY, NY the telephone number is
212-288-8700.

Barbara Lilley
Conservation/Preservation Program Officer
New York State Library



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I have an inquiry from a resident in western New York about the
derivation of the name "Lost Nation Forest" which is associated with a
forested area in the northwestern corner of Allegany County, near the
village of Centerville.

He has one secondary source that conflicts with verbal tradition and is
looking for an additional insights or information. I have checked the USGS
geographic place name database and have come up empty.

Any ideas?

Phil Lord
NYS Museum
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Those of you who visited Albany in the not too distant past will recall the
D-shaped park at the foot of State Street, at Broadway, in front of the old
D&H Building. Here the city buses stopped to pick up passengers on the
street that circulated around that park, and on the margins of that street
stood seven State historic markers.

When the street was eliminated to create a new landscaped area
adjacent to the SUNY Central Administration building, the signs were
removed, stored temporarily by DOT, and then turned over to the State
Museum; at least we have five of the seven in our collections.

If anyone has any knowledge of the missing three, let me know, as we
would like to explore having them re-erected. I have listed all seven,
because it is interesting to see the richness of the history that they
expressed for that tiny area.

General Burgoyne; over this road entered Albany with his staff after the
Battle of Saratoga going to Schuyler Mansion as prisoners of War - 1777
[missing]

Birthplace of American Union; near this site Benjamin Franklin presented
the 1st formal plan of national union; Congress of 1754

Albany; called Fort Nassau 1614, Fort Orange 1624, Beverwyck 1652,
Albany 1664; chartered 1686
[missing]

Colonial warpath; rendezvous of troops in five wars. Here armies under
Abercrombie, Loudoun and Amherst moved to the conquest of Canada
1756-60

Iroquois Treaty, August 1684; Basic peace by Gov. Dongan Gov.
Howard of Va. and Five Nations at court house which stood 100 feet
west

Henry Hudson, explorer, here ended the voyage of the Half Moon in
quest of the Indies September, 1609

Fort Orange; site of the West India Company Colony 1624. Here was
born Sarah Rapelje, first white child in N.Y. State, 1625. Fort stood S.E.
by the river.
[missing]

Clermont; near the foot of Madison Avenue Robert Fulton in Aug. 1807,
completed the first successful steamboat voyage

Philip Lord, Jr.
NYS Museum
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Thanks to all of your for your interesting examples of NY women picking up
their hats and going out to vote.  carol kammen


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     David William Voorhees recently inquired about a portrait 
of Columbus that was presented to New York State by Maria Farmer 
in 1784.

     There is an interesting discussion of this painting in 
volume 3, pp. 71-74 of John Boyd Thacher's CHRISTOPHER 
COLUMBUS: HIS LIFE, HIS WORK, HIS REMAINS (New York: Putnam's 
Sons, 1904. At the time of the publication of Thacher's book, 
the portrait was in the possession of the State Library, then
located in the Capitol.

     Thacher cannot identify the artist, but speculates 
that the portrait, from internal evidence, was painted over 
another portrait: "It is possible that some artist finding at
his hand, one hundred years after the discovery, a portrait of
Columbus, perhaps a copy of the De Bry, conceived the -- to him -- 
happy idea of representing Columbus as he himself imagined him, -- 
young, ardent, full of purpose, -- and then painted over the 
first picture a second and purely imaginative portrait of our 
hero."  Thacher believes this second portrait was executed in 
1592. He concludes: "Under any circumstances, as it represents 
a youth of twenty-three, it plainly belongs to the division of 
imaginative portraits."

     I do not know the whereabouts of the painting or how valid 
Thacher's speculations are. But I thought I would pass them on.


                                       Melinda Yates
                                       Senior Librarian
                                       NYS LIbrary
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I spoke with Andrea Lazarski of the Capitol Commission who found
nothing in her current inventory.  Subsequently I unearthed in my
files a copy of an April, 1890, inventory of paintings, etc., "in
custody of the New York State Library," which included a framed oil
portrait of "Columbus."  Most probably the painting was destroyed in
the 1911 Library fire.  I have a query in to the Library (Special
Collections) to see if it might still be around (they're on this
net, by the way).  For a really long shot you could try the Albany
Institute of History and Art, 518-463-4478.
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Phil:

It may be that these were lost in one
retooling of the park or another, most
likely when the D&H/Albany Evening
Journal Building complex was taken by
the State University for office space.

However, when I worked for
now-Assemblyman McEneny in my early
career with the City of Albany (his early
career, too), Jack had at least one bronze
plaque from a marker displayed in his
office. I'm afraid I don't recall which it was,
or from where, and it may be that he
ultimately transferred it to the Albany
Institute. I suggest talking to Jack
McEneny or to Norman Rice - Norman's a
monument buff and may recall these
things.

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For a newspaper article, I am writing about the bronze traffic lights
designed by Joseph H. Freedlander in 1929 and placed on Fifth Avenue in 1930.
  They were four-faced (red and green lenses only), with art deco-type
detailing and a figure of Hermes on top.   

These traffic lights were removed in 1964, but only two of the Hermes figures
(out of about 60) have been located, one at the Museum of the City of New
York and one at the Fifth Avenue Association.  

Does any subscriber know of others?

Christopher Gray


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Having the citation to the "record" referenced and to the "newspaper 
article" and location of same presently would be helpful.

Cheers,
TJD

On Wed, 8 Jan 1997 [log in to unmask] wrote:

> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 15:52 -0500 (EST)
> From: [log in to unmask]
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> 
>   RE women voting in Alfred, New Yor.  There is record of one Lucy
> Barber voting in the village in 1886, the year before Mrs. Allen
> and 9 other ladies attempted it (as Laurie McFadden described).
> A newspaper article quotes an earlier one (no date of course)
> "...She was not to be argued with, for the account goes on to
> say that they allowed her to vote.  She voted for congressional,
> assembly and county ticket...After considerable haggling, it
> was decided to allow Mrs. Barber to go free, because "she
> probably wouldn't do it again,"..."
> Sandra Scofield, Alfred Historical Society
> 
> 
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Mr. Lord,
     Had an interesting experience looking for one of the markers missing
here in Williamson several years ago. One of the markers had been missing for
several years. I told my seventh grade students that there would be "extra
credit" given to anyone who could play detective and locate the sign. I
didn't hold out much hope, but with a hundred or so busy little mind working
one never knows. 
     About 10:30 that evening I got a call from the County Highway
Superintendent, (no one I knew), and he asked me to, "call off the dogs." It
seems that several of the students had come up with the idea that he might
know as the sign was missing from a county highway. He did. He had it in the
county highway barns where it had been since a snow plow knocked it down.
(One of those things you were going to replace some day when spare time was
available). He promised that if didn't get any more phone calls that he would
have it delivered to my school the next day. Good to his word, the next day
it arrived!
     The sign, now repainted and replaced, WELL back from the highway, is
something these students can be proud of. Do you have and budding sleuths in
the local schools?  

Les Buell
Social Studies Teacher
Williamson Middle School
Miller Street
Williamson, New York
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There are a number of references to Lucy Barber's attempt to vote
in the Western New York Historical located at Hinkle Library
Alfred State College. Most of the references are undated. There
is an article on the Allen trial in the Alfred Sun 12-1-1887, p.2
that mentions Lucy Barber's attempts to vote the year before.
Sandra Scofield, Alfred Historical Society


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At the turn of the century in New York there was a firm of church decorators
& mural painters founded by one ILLARIO PANZZINONE  (or a similar sound  --
apologies to Italians) who was said to have apprenticed at the Vatican. This
firm twice before WWI did large murals in the interior of our St Mary's
Roman Catholic Church in Williamstown, Ontario.

We wish to get more information on the firm and their works. (And not the
least of our desire is to spell their name correctly.)



        David G Anderson  <[log in to unmask]>
               Glengarry Historical Society - 1784
          Williamstown, Ontario, Canada   K0C 2J0
   _____________________________________



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<fontfamily><param>Geneva</param><smaller>1780

Jan 29	=09

A record five-week cold spell bottoms out at -20=B0 at Hartford,
Connecticut, and 16=B0 in New York City. New York's harbor is frozen
over.


=46eb 1	=09

New York State cedes all of its western lands to Congress.

<bold>

</bold>May	=09

Loyalist John Cumming and his family arrive in New York City from the
northern part of the colony, to take ship for Scotland.


Jun 8	=09

Sir Henry Clinton returns to New York, leaving General Cornwallis in
charge of the southern campaign.


Aug 3	=09

Washington gives Benedict Arnold the command at West Point.


Sep 23	=09

Major John Andr=E9 is captured in Tarrytown, revealing Arnold's plot to
surrender West Point to the British.


Sep 25	=09

Arnold narrowly escapes capture, on the British ship
<italic>Vulture</italic>.=20


Sep 30	=09

Major Andr=E9 is hanged by the rebels as a spy in Tappan.

<bold>

</bold>December=09

James Whitelaw writes to his sponsor, the Scots American Company of
=46armers recommending they liquidate their holdings in Ryegate, Vermont.
 =20


State

George Washington's Newburgh headquarters, the Jonathan Hasbrouck
House, is demolished.    **     British forces under Sir John Johnson
and Joseph Brant attack the settlement at Schoharie, are beaten off. =20
**    Indians settle in the area of the future Buffalo.    **    The
Council House at Caneadea is built by British troops from Fort Niagara
for the Seneca.    **   Joseph Brant and his prisoner Captain Alexander
Harper pass through the Genesee Valley on their way from Schoharie to
Niagara.



1781

Mar 1	=09

New York presents its western lands to Congress, which uses them to
provide Pennsylvania with a corridor to Lake Erie.


May	=09

58 Scots immigrants petition Governor Clinton for permission to return
to Scotland. He refuses permission.


Aug 3	=09

A Ryegate general meeting decides to begin the liquidation of the Scots
American Company's holdings.


Aug 12	=09

Rochambeau breaks camp at Newport, Rhode Island, and sets out to join
Washington in White Plains.


Aug 20	=09

Congress orders New York State to relinquish her claims to present-day
Vermont.


Aug 21	=09

Washington leads Clinton to believe that New York City will be
attacked, then moves toward Philadelphia and later to Virginia.


Sep 9	=09

A second French fleet arrives off the Chesapeake. Admiral Graves takes
his fleet toward New York.


Oct 19	=09

Cornwallis and his 17,000 troops surrender at Yorktown, Virginia.


Oct 24	=09

Washington wants to attack New York, but the French want to leave
American waters.


City

Some of the city's municipal records, sequestered aboard the armed ship
<italic>Duchess of Gordon</italic> in 1775, are returned to the city.


 State

Cornplanter, Red Jacket and Handsome Lake help Johnson massacre Mohawk
Valley settlers.



1782

Apr 3	=09

Washington Irving is born in New York City.


Apr 16	=09

George Washington establishes his headquarters at Newburgh.


<bold>June</bold>	=09

The 4th Massachuetts Regiment of Foot, with Private Shurtleff (a
disguised Deborah Sampson), leaves Worcester, Massachusetts, to march
to West Point, New York.


Oct 29	=09

Congress accepts New York State's western lands.


Dec 5=09

Martin Van Buren is born in Kinderhook.



1783

Jan 6	=09

Officers at Newburgh petition Congress for back pay.


Jan 14	=09

General William Alexander, Lord Stirling, dies in Albany.


Mar 10	=09

Anonymous U. S. officers issue the Newburgh Addresses, threatening to
mutiny if they don't begin receiving back pay.


Mar 11	=09

Washington forbids meetings of discontented officers at Newburgh.


Mar 12	=09

The officers reassert the validity of their claims. Washington condemns
the tone of the Newburgh Addresses.


Mar 15	=09

Washington, recognizing the validity of their arguments, urges
dissatisfied army officers to trust in Congress to see that they are
paid.


Mar 16	=09

General Greene expresses the fear that discontent may spread to
southern officers.


Mar 22	=09

Congress votes officer compensation.


Mar 30	=09

Washington advises the Newburgh officers of Congress' favorable
decision.=20


Apr 16	=09

General Jedediah Huntington recommends a military academy at West
Point.


Apr 23	=09

British general Sir Guy Carleton requests Congress' aid in evacuating
New York City.


Apr 24	=09

Congress appoints three commissioners to aid Carleton.


Apr 26	=09

7,000 Loyalists leave New York City for Canada and Europe.


May 9	=09

The first British prisoners are released, in New York City.


May 13	=09

Commissioned army officers, including general Henry Knox, organize the
Society of Cincinnati, at Newburgh.


May 22	=09

A skirmish between British and U. S. ships in New York Harbor is
narrowly averted.


Jun 13	=09

Washington disbands his army, at Newburgh.


Jul 21	=09

The British 7th Regiment stages a ceremonial review in New York City.


Aug 21	=09

The deadline for Loyalists to receive permission to evacuate New York.


Sep 3	=09

Great Britain and the U. S. sign the peace treaty in Paris. Great
Britain signs a peace treaty with France and Spain, at Versailles,
ceding Florida to Spain.  Spain returns the Bahamas to England. France
returns Minorca and Montserrat, in the Leeward Islands, to  Great
Britain, which also receives Saint Kitts-Nevis. The northern boundary
of New York State is confirmed as the 45th paralell. Great Lakes
boundary lines are set.  Great Britain cedes most of the Alabama and
Wisconsin areas to the United States. Britain and the U. S. receive
navigation rights on the Mississippi River.


Sep 29	=09

A band of arsonists is discovered trying to torch several New York City
buildings.


Oct 8	=09

George Washington asks Congress to limit the West Point garrison to 500
troops.


Oct 14	=09

Governor George Clinton expresses impatience with delays in the final
treaty.


<bold>November</bold>=09

The <italic>Peggy</italic> sails out of Staten Island for Nova Scotia,
with many ex-slaves aboard.


Nov 20	=09

Washington announces the formal discharge of enlisted men at Newburgh.


Nov 21	=09

The British complete their withdrawal from northern Manhattan.


Nov 24	=09

Washington meets with General Carleton to finalize New York evacuation
plans.


Nov 25	=09

The final regiments of the British army leave New York City.


Nov 30	=09

A small, loud earthquake strikes New York City.


Dec 2	=09

A fireworks display is held in New York City.


Dec 3	=09

The New York <italic>Gazetteer </italic>begins publication.


Dec 4	=09

Washington bids farewell to his officers at Fraunces Tavern in New York
City.    **    The British evacuate Long Island and Staten Island.


State

Andrew Brock becomes assessor for Ryegate. Whitelaw is named deputy to
Vermont's surveyor general and quits his post as Ryegate's assessor.  =20
**    Quaker merchants found the town of Hudson.   **     The town of
Veedersburg (Amsterdam) is founded.


Geography

New York and Massachusetts appoint commissions to settle the final
boundary between them, but no consensus is reached.



1784


=46eb 22=09

The <italic>Empress of China</italic> sails from New York City, seeking
to open trade with China.


March	=09

John Jacob Astor lands in New York City from Germany, with seven flutes
to trade.


Mar 15	=09

The Bank of New York is organized.


Jun 9	=09

The Bank of New York opens, in New York City.


Aug 26	=09

Albany's Lutheran church is reorganized.


Oct 5	=09

Dr. John Henry Livingston is appointed professor of theology by the
Dutch Reformed Church Synod, establishing the first theological
seminary in America, in New York City.


Oct 22	=09

The Six Nations of the Iroquois sign the Second Treaty of Fort Stanwyx,
surrender all claims to the Northwest territory.


City

The city becomes the capital of New York State. Colonial public records
are moved here from Poughkeepsie.   **    Lawyer James Duane, just out
of Congress, is  appointed mayor for each of the next five one-year
terms.


State - The legislature moves to New York City. It recommends a plan by
Christopher Colles for improving Mohawk River navigation.    **    The
University of the State of New York is formed.    **    A Mrs. Farmer,
grand-daughter of Dutch governor Jacob Leisler, donates portraits of
Christopher Columbusn, to be hung in Albany's State
House.</smaller></fontfamily>


David Minor

Eagles Byte Historical Research

Rochester, New York

716 264-0423


http://home.eznet.net/~dminor


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      I am working with poor house records from Washington Co., NY. They are
very interesting and certainly not politcally correct with their descriptions
of the cause for admission. They use terms such as lazy, ugly, bad character,
simple, lunacy, etc. Also used are cripple, lameness, sickness, pregnant, old
age, etc. The term most often used is intemperance or intemperate. Now, to
me, that would indicate the person had some sort of drinking problem.
However, when you read through several pages, you will find the term
intemperance used as much as 60% of the time. I can't imagine that all these
people truly had the problem of intemperance. My question is this--were the
people interviewed upon entering the poor house and were they asked if they
drank alcohol? Could it be that they just said yes, they drank (never saying
how much) and because they said yes, they were put down as "intemperate?" 
       A few individuals have the cause for admission entered as "drunk." As
I read through, some of these names appear over and over again and it seems
as though they are the people with REAL drinking problems. I just wonder
about what seems to be an excessive use of the term intemperance.
       Does anyone know if people were asked this question on admission? I
would like to find out if others have run across this term used on such a
frequent basis. I'm also interested in general information on the background
of the poor house in NY. Any suggestions as to where I can get that info? I
have been in contact with Wash. Co. and have info on the specific poor house
there. 
Laura Hulslander
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Hello,
Can anyone please let me know some good sources to brush up on the
1770-1800 period, especially the Revolution itself.  I am looking for
anything and everything.  Video, audio, internet, printed, etc.  Thank
you for your help.

Ruth Hesterly
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STUDENT RESEARCH AWARDS AVAILABLE 
FROM STATE ARCHIVES

	The New York State Archives and Records Administration
announces its seventh annual Student Research Awards to promote and
recognize excellence in student research.  The purpose of the award is
to encourage New York State's students to explore the wealth of
historical records found in archives, libraries, businesses, community
organizations, local governments (e.g., schools, towns, counties, etc.),
historical societies, families, and individuals throughout the State.  There
are two awards: one for a student or group of students grades 6-8, and
one for a student or group of students grades 9-12.

	All student research award entries must be the result of student
research using historical records.  Some examples of historical
records are: 

	?	Personal papers, such as original letters, diaries,
journals, photographs, and drawings 
	?	Business records, such as ledgers, correspondence
and advertisements 
	?	Local government records, such as minutes of board
meetings, tax assessment maps, engineering and highway records,
police and court records, and school district records
	?	Community organization records, such as church
membership, financial and social action records and 
	?	State and national records including census records,
vital records, property records, wills and probate records.  

	The product of the research may be a traditional research paper;
an exhibit; an audiovisual production; a performance; a work of fiction or
drama; a proposal for designation of a historic marker, property or
district; or a document packet or other curriculum material for future use
by students and teachers.  

	Research products prepared for other competitions, e.g., History
Day, will be eligible if they meet other relevant criteria, especially use of
historical records.

	Each award includes a certificate and a cash prize, which
represents the income from a fund established by a donation from a
former member of the Board of Regents.  Certificates of Merit will be
awarded to those entries, other than the winners, that demonstrate a
substantial reliance on historical records to support their research.   
                                    
	Last year's winners in the 6-8 category were from Holland Patent
Central School Distirct.  They  used historical records from the Town of
Trenton Planning Board, Holland Patent Free Library Archives, Utica Gas
and Electric Company, Oneida County Home News, and the Town of
Trenton, interviews, paintings, and secondary sources to place a
modern controversy in historical context.  The students produced a video
documenting Trenton Falls, from its nineteenth century heyday as a
tourist attraction and the 1902 construction of a power plant, to the
present-day controversy to open Trenton Falls to the public as a Town
park. 

	In the 9-12 category, last year's winner was from
Clyde-Savannah Central School Distirct.  The student used historical
records from the New York State Department of Conservation, New
York State Nonpoint Source Coordinating Committee, Wayne County
Public Information Office, and Wayne County Soil and Water
Conservation District, personal interviews, and secondary sources to
provide an extensive, well-written overview of the water quality issues
in Wayne County.

	Applications must be postmarked on or before June 1,
1997.  The awards will be announced during New York Archives Week,
October, 1997.  

	For more information, and to receive a copy of the award
guidelines and an application, call or write as follows: 


Julie Daniels 
Student Research Awards 
State Archives and Records Administration 
10A46 Cultural Education Center 
Albany, NY 12230 
518-473-8037.
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I would start with the Internet, and "American and British History
Resources on the Internet at
http://www.libraries.rutgers.edu/rulib/artshum/amhist.html

The links found here will keep you busy for months, and should serve
the purpose.

Phil Lord
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I hope this isn't a duplicate for many people. I'm forwarding an
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speeches of historical significance.  It's also beautifully presented as
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Message Contents:
1.  Introduction to Douglass, new URL
2.  Inaugural addresses
3.  New speeches
*** 4.  Web Competition: Last Day of Voting is January 15. ***
5. Awards
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1.  Greetings, Bob. Douglass is a Web site dedicated to archiving 
significant speeches in American history -- feel free to pass this 
message along to others who might be interested in visiting the site.  
Our URL (Internet address) has changed recently.  Earlier this month 
the site was transferred to a new address on one of Northwestern 
University's servers.  (We're glad that it's an URL that people will 
have a chance of remembering.)  Please visit the new address and place 
Douglass among your list of Web bookmarks:

http://douglass.speech.nwu.edu/

2.  Anticipating President Clinton's inauguration on Jan. 20, the 
"Douglass Delivers" section of the home page now contains links some 
of the more remarkable inaugural addresses from past U.S. presidents.  
Did your favorites make the list?

3.  Ten new texts will be placed online in the next two weeks.  Most 
will be from the the period between the Civil War and WWI (from T. 
Roosevelt, Andrew Carnegie, and Eugene Debs, to name a few)

4.  Douglass needs your vote . . . today (or tomorrow)!  The site was 
nominated in December as one of 1996's best social science and 
humanities web resources. It's nice to be on the list, but to stand a 
chance Douglass needs your vote -- January 15th is the last day of the 
competition.

Follow the link from Douglass' guest book page to add your vote -- it 
only takes a minute. 

5.  Awards and Recognition:  December was a great month for awards.  A 
dozen entities recognized Douglass in one way or another.  Several of 
the Web sites that have recognized Douglass are worth visiting 
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Hello Everyone,

Was wondering if there's anyone who has some ideas for a little
investigation I'm on of an incident with my Great Grandfather in 1898/early
1899.

While working on a job associated with a quarry in Mount Vernon, NY, my G
Grandfather, Pietrangelo Iorio, was the victim of a fatal accident where a
horse drawn truck load of stone and gravel tipped over on him.

Any thoughts as to whether this type of incident of death might be in a
local trade/company newsletter or newspaper in Mount Vernon at that time??

He was the first death in the States for my maternal lineage and I don't
know where to begin.

Thanks so much in advance,

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Laura-

The Albany County Hall of Records [250 South Pearl Street Albany NY 12202,
518-447-4500] has many of the records of the city Alms house in their SARA
collection.  Everything from construction documents to grocery lists!

Walter Wheeler
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It doesn't appear in the index to the New York Times, but try the New York
Tribune (annual indices, 1875-1906) - they loved gory stuff, even it was out
of town.

The trade journal I know, Stone, does not seem to carry material like that -
too downbeat.

Christopher Gray
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Christopher,

Thanks so much for your interest and Your research suggestion..   I'll track
it down and hopefully strike gold.

Regards,

David

At 02:14 PM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote:
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I'M NOT TRYING TO BE SMART,BUT I'D TRY WHERE HE'S BURIED. OR  THE PASSINGER
LISTS.
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Hi!

I wonder if someone could help me find out how to find out what New York
City newspapers exist on microfilm or other media. I see references to them
but have no idea of how I might access them or get information from them.

My great grandfather, Patrick DILLON, a dockworker, was drowned in the East
River, Pier 47, on July 15, 1874. The coroner's report of July 19, 1874
states thatthe cause of death was drowning and also states "Inquest
Pending". The occupation is listed as "Labourer", however, family tradition
has him as a dockworker - possibly only a matter of semantics.

Cemetery records show the date of burial as July 19, 1874, the same date as
the coroner's report. Given the "Inquest Pending" notation, I am wondering
if there may be more to his death that can be learned. Being that he was an
Irish immigrant, the possibility of more than fall into the river might be
involved.

Does Pier 47 still exist? Where is/was it? 

Thank you for any assistance you might be able to give.

Bob Cook
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I would think that something like that would certainly have made the local
papers. Check the papers in Mount Vernon as a place to begin. Les
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Can anyone advise if there exists a repository for the personal
records of JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER?
My GGrandmother migrated to the U.S. in 1869 and is shown as a
live-in maid in the home of J.D. ROCKEFELLER in the 1870 census
and I am interested in personal records/photos, etc.

David Bly	[log in to unmask]
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Bob -

Information on the microfilmed newspaper holdings for communities
across New York State, including New York City, that are held by the
New York State Library in Albany is available at the New York State
Newspaper Project's home page, the address for which is
http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp

The State Library has quite a collection of New York City tites and all
NYS Library newspaper microfilm (except for the New York Times,
which is available at many, many libraries around the country) can be
borrowed through interlibrary loan. Check with your local library for
information on how to do this.

There is a paper index to the New York Times from the 1860s on. Most
major libraries would have a copy of this. However, I've found the Times
was not always the most comprehensive as I wanted. I've often
preferred using the New York Tribune, the New York Herald, the New
York Sun, the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, etc. But you never know.

I've used a print copy of the microfilmed holdings of the New York Public
Library at the library but I don't believe that it is online, although NYPL's
catalog is and maybe the newspapers they have are listed there. I don't
know; you'd have to connect to the catalog through the NYPL web site
or telnet.

Now for the ad: This year the New York State Newspaper Project is
celebrating ten years of looking for, cataloging and microfilming
newspapers from villages, towns and cities across the state before the
history contained on their pages crumbles to dust. Sometime this spring
or early summer, the project will film its one millionth page!

To join the Friends of the NYS Newspaper Project, an organization
founded to raise money to microfilm as many pages of history as
possible, drop me a note via e-mail. Every dollar donated saves
two-and-a-half pages of newspaper history.

Vicki Weiss
President, Friends of the NYS Newspaper Project
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	 Try the Rockefeller Archives in Tarrytown, N.Y.

On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, David L. Bly wrote:

> Can anyone advise if there exists a repository for the personal
> records of JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER?
> My GGrandmother migrated to the U.S. in 1869 and is shown as a
> live-in maid in the home of J.D. ROCKEFELLER in the 1870 census
> and I am interested in personal records/photos, etc.
> 
> David Bly	[log in to unmask]
> 

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Hi,

I am interested in doing research in the early Dutch Council (Governor's
Council) records of New Amsterdam, (circa) pre 1647. This was the earliest
court in the colony and the court of original jusrisdiction for all cases I
believe.

I have heard that published minutes exist. Are they available at either NYS
Library or NYS Archives. Also, do original records exist and if so where are
they held.  

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Sincerely,

Rick Smith
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On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:18:34 -0600 Bob Cook <[log in to unmask]> writes:
>Hi!
>
>I wonder if someone could help me find out how to find out what New 
>York
>City newspapers exist on microfilm or other media. I see references to 
>them
>but have no idea of how I might access them or get information from 
>them.
>

My local library has the New York Times on microfilm....Your library
could probably help to find out what's available.

>My great grandfather, Patrick DILLON, a dockworker, was drowned in the 
>East
>River, Pier 47, on July 15, 1874. The coroner's report of July 19, 
>1874
>states thatthe cause of death was drowning and also states "Inquest
>Pending". The occupation is listed as "Labourer", however, family 
>tradition
>has him as a dockworker - possibly only a matter of semantics.
>

The East River separates Brooklyn from Manhattan.  The Brooklyn bridge
goes over the East River for example.  I don't know how the numbers go or
if the pier is on the Manhattan or Brooklyn side of the river.  If I
remember correctly, the Fulton Fish Market area  lower East side of
Manhattan has been redeveloped into shops and I think the pier number at
that location is 102.  Just from memory though and you know how that is
as you get older.


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Genealogy Searcher........
Researching German, Irish, Italian from New York: The Boroughs, Ulster,
Sullivan &
Dutchess Counties. Especially looking for ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, FALANGA,
GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, WAGNER
Yesterday and Today are Tomorrow's history
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Bob Cook wrote:
 Given the "Inquest Pending" notation, I am wondering
> if there may be more to his death that can be learned. Being that he was an
> Irish immigrant, the possibility of more than fall into the river might be
> involved.

Even if he was inebriated and fell in, the NYC officials might have still had
him listed that way.

Art
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If I may address myself to the question concerning the location of  East
River Pier 47.  You did specify the East River because there was also a North
River (Hudson) Pier 47.  

It was between  Jefferson and Clinton St. on NYC's lower East Side.  It was
above the Brooklyn Bridge and the Manhattan Bridge.  My current map shows
that Jefferson no longer intersects South St. (the street that runs along the
East River) .
A  housing project has been built across it (the La Guardia Houses).
  None-the-less on a current NYC street map you can see where Jefferson used
to met South St.  

Pier 47 was about 3 blocks above the Manhattan Bridge and according to my
maps it no longer exists.        

Jim Maguire
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I had a GGrandmother who was arrested for vagrancy and was taken to the 39th
Precinct on White Plains ave. I'm trying to locate any blotters that may have
remained from the 39th Precinct  (1900 to 1910 period).  Also... what
happened to the 39th precinct,  did it merge with another precinct.  anyone?
  anyone?
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<bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1785</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><=
param>Geneva</param>

Jan 11	=09

Congress begins convening in New York City.


April	=09

Christopher Colles receives $125 to implement his Mohawk River canal
plan. He publishes his proposals.


Dec 2	=09

Congress appoints John Ewing, Thomas Hutchins and David Rittenhouse to
survey the final New York-Massachusetts boundary.


Canals

Silas Deane drums up support for a Lake Champlain-St. Lawrence Canal.


State

New York City businessman Lumen Reed is born.    **    Geneva is
founded on the site of an Indian village.    **     A survey of the New
York-Pennsylvania state line is begun.    **    Former Seneca captive
Horatio Jones (Handsome Boy) marries a woman from Schenectady and moves
to Waterloo.    **    The first burial at the Watervliet Shaker colony
near Albany is performed.


Ships

The Hudson River sloop <italic>Experiment, </italic>commanded by
Stewart Dean, makes a trading voyage from Albany to Canton, China, the
second U. S vessel to trade with China.  =20


Slavery

John Jay and Alexander Hamilton organize the New York City Manumission
Society.=20



<bold>1786</bold>

Sep 11	=09

The Annapolis Convention meets with Virginia, Delaware, New York,
Pennsylvania, and New Jersey represented, to discuss commerce.


Oct 12	=09

New York's James Clinton and Simeon DeWitt, and Pennsylvania's Andrew
Elliott, certify the survey that established the New York-Pennsylvania
state line, completed earlier in the year.


Dec 16	=09

Meeting at Hartford, Connecticut, New York State commissioners Egbert
Benson, James Duane, John Haring, Robert R. Livingston, Melancthion
Smith and Robert Yates, and Massachusetts commissioners Rufus King,
John Lowell, Theophilus Parsons and James Sullivan, settle the latter
state's claim to New York lands. New York divides the Iroquois lands
with Massachusetts, which gets the land, while New York gets political
sovereignty. The area known as the Boston Ten Towns is retained by
Masachusetts.


Syracuse

Trader-interpreter Ephraim Webster, along with  Benjamin Newkirk,
arrives from Schenectady and establish a trading post among the
Onondaga Indians on the east bank of Onondaga Creek, near Onondaga
Lake.


State

The state defeats a congressional appeal for import duty powers.   ** =20
 Israel Stone build's Pittsford's first house.   **    Columbia County
is created from part of Albany County.    **    Trader-interpreter
Ephraim Webster settles among the Onondaga Indians.     **    A son is
born to Horatio and Sarah Whitmore Jones, the first white child born
west of Utica.     **    The approximate date followers of Jemima
Wilkinson hire Abraham Dayton, Thomas Hathaway and Richard Smith to
travel to Yates County to scout a site for a New Jerusalem.


</fontfamily>

<bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1787</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><=
param>Geneva</param>

Apr 16	=09

Boston playwright Royall Tyler's <italic>The Contrast</italic> is
performed at New York City's John Street Theatre, the first
professional performance of a comedy in America.


May 	=09

Claxton & Babcock begin publishing Troy's weekly <italic>Northern
Centinel & Lansingburgh Advertiser.</italic>=20


Jul 5	=09

Manasseh Cutler arrives in New York City, talks of buying millions of
acres of land on the Ohio River for the Ohio Company.


Sep 17	=09

The U. S. Constitution, in a final draft by Gouverneur Morris, is
signed by delegates in Philadelphia, who then resolve to forward it to
Congress in New York City.


Sep 24	=09

New York City's <italic>Daily Advertiser</italic> prints <italic>A
Revolution Effected by Good Sense and Deliberation</italic>, the first
known original commentary on the Constitution in New York State.


State

Binghamton is founded.    **    Feudal tenure is abolished.    **    A
conference meeting at Hartford, Connecticut, sets the western boundary
of Indian lands one mile east of the Niagara River, between lakes
Ontario and Erie. Rights to the Mile Strip are reserved for the state.=20
  **    Albany housewright Isaac Packard builds Cherry Hill, a Georgian
mansion, for Philip Van Renselaer.


</fontfamily>

<bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1788</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><=
param>Geneva</param>

January	=09

Troy's weekly <italic>Northern Centinel & Lansingburgh
Advertiser</italic>, now located in Albany, ceases publication.


Jul 26	=09

New York, upon learning of Virginia's ratification, approves the
Constitution, over the objections of governor George Clinton.


Sep 13	=09

Congress schedules elections for the Presidency. New York City is
declared the temporary capital of the U. S.=20


Oct 2	=09

The Confederation Congress is moved out of Federal Hall, to prepare the
building for its new role.


Nov 1	=09

Congress adjourns.


State

Massachusetts sells its western New York lands to Oliver Phelps,
Nathaniel Gorham and other investors. Phelps and Gorham pay the Seneca
$5000 in cash and trade goods, plus a $500 annual payment for western
New York lands, which become part of the Miltary Tract, land set aside
for veterans of the Revolution. The Onondaga accept a reservation of a
few square miles.    **    The Town of Cortlandt is founded.    **  =20
Jeremiah Wadsworth of Hartford travels to the western part of the
state, to inspect the Genesee Valley.    **    Elmira is settled.


Maryland

Hagerstown businessman Colonel Nathaniel Rochester marries Sophia
Beatty.=20


</fontfamily>

<bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1789</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><=
param>Geneva</param>

Jan 29	=09

Politician and judge William B. Rochester is born to Nathaniel and
Sophia Rochester, in Hagerstown, Maryland.


Mar 4	=09

The First Constitutional Congress meets in New York City, without a
quorum. The U. S. Constitution is declared to be in effect.


Apr 1	=09

The U. S. House of Representatives, a quorum achieved, begins business,
electing Frederick Augustus Muhlenburg as speaker.


Apr 6	=09

The U. S. Senate achieves a quorum. John Langdon is chosen as its
temporary presiding officer. Election returns are counted and
messengers are sent to notify Washington and Adams.


Apr 8	=09

The House begins deliberating on revenue raising.


Apr 15	=09

John Ferno begins publishing an administration organ, <italic>The
Gazette of the United States</italic>,  in New York City.


Apr 16	=09

George Washington leaves Mount Vernon for New York City.=20


Apr 21	=09

John Adams arrives in New York , takes his oath of office, and begins
presiding over the Senate.   =20


Apr 23	=09

Washington arrives in New York.


Apr 30	=09

Washington is sworn in as the first President of the United States, on
the front steps of Federal Hall.


May	=09

Moses DeWitt and Abraham Hardebegh lead a party of surveyors from the
Hudson Valley to the western shore of the Oswego River, begin surveying
the New Military Tract, over 1,500,000 acres of former Iroquois land.


May 7	=09

The first U. S. Inaugural Ball is held.


May 12	=09

A Republican political club, The Society of St. Tammany (an Indian
chief), or the Columbian Order is formed, in New York City.


Jun 1	=09

Congress, in its first act, regulates the administering of oaths.


Sep 13	=09

Samuel Slater embarks from London for the U. S., carrying trade secrets
of textile manufacturing.


Sep 29	=09

Congress creates the U. S. Army. ** The adjournment of the first
Congress under the Constitution is effected.


Nov 18	=09

Slater arrives in New York City.


City

John Jacob Astor buys his first real estate, on the Bowery Road. **
State attorny general Richard Varick is appointed mayor for each of the
next two years.=20


 State

Oliver Phelps opens the first U. S. land office, in Canandaigua. **
Ebenezer "Indian" Allen moves from the Scottsville area to a site at
the Genesee River falls, a location that will become the city of
Rochester. Allen erects a grist mill. ** Gideon Putnam settles Saratoga
Springs. ** Corning and Ithaca are founded. ** The approximate date the
first structure in Rensselaerville is erected.

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David Minor

Eagles Byte Historical Research

Rochester, New York

716 264-0423


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  I'm in the process of researching one of the greatest trotting horses of all
time, Flora Temple.  She was born in 1845 in Oneida County, New York, and
during the 1850's was known as "Queen of the Turf."  In 1859 she was the first
trotter to break the 2:20 mile.
  She was so popular in her day that babies were named after her, and she was
immortalized many times by Currier & Ives.  Are there any local historical
societies that may have Flora Temple posters or memorabilia?  
  I've been in contact with the Hall of Fame of the Trotter in Goshen, NY -
they have Flora's wagon on display.  I've also gotten several books on the
history of race horses in America (including Woodruff's, Busbey's, Hervey's).
Can anyone direct me to other sources?
  My immediate goal is the creation of a Flora Temple web page as part of the
Local History Web site at SUNY-Morrisville.  The long-term goal is to celebrate
"Flora Temple Day" at the Equine Studies Center on the Morrisville campus,
hopefully in September, 1997.
  The Web address is http://www.snymor.edu/pages/library/local_history/
  Any assistance in this project will be most appreciated. 
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I'd love to hear anynews on this man's search.  My grandfather was
arrested for, of all things, horse theft in Brooklyn in about 1912 and
I'm looking for records.  He was a German immigrant.

Thanks.

Pat Farrell

On Sat, 18 Jan 1997
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> I had a GGrandmother who was arrested for vagrancy and was taken to the 39th
> Precinct on White Plains ave. I'm trying to locate any blotters that may have
> remained from the 39th Precinct  (1900 to 1910 period).  Also... what
> happened to the 39th precinct,  did it merge with another precinct.  anyone?
>   anyone?
> 

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At 02:49 AM 1/18/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Pier 47 was about 3 blocks above the Manhattan Bridge and according to my
>maps it no longer exists.        
>

Jim,  Thanks much for the info - everything helps, as you well know!

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Would anyone know of a Ship called the USS Ryerson


Please E-mail me at [log in to unmask]


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Hi...just happen to have the following reference waiting for my next trip to
a local LDS FHC to order on loan...
        Register of New Netherlands,  LDS film no. 874364....It's great...
Pete

At 02:56 PM 1/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>-- [ From: Frederick E. Smith * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>
>Hi,
>
>I am interested in doing research in the early Dutch Council (Governor's
>Council) records of New Amsterdam, (circa) pre 1647. This was the earliest
>court in the colony and the court of original jusrisdiction for all cases I
>believe.
>
>I have heard that published minutes exist. Are they available at either NYS
>Library or NYS Archives. Also, do original records exist and if so where are
>they held.  
>
>Thanks in advance for your comments.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Rick Smith
>
>

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An interesting question is raised.  Is there a good reference work concerning
the prectincts in NYC?  There doesn't appear to be any reference to the
precints in the nyc encyclopedia or the nyc historical atlas.

Jim Maguire
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Is there a tie in with New York history here that could help us zero in on
your ship?  Prehaps dates of operation, a historical event?  We may have
helpful material available if we  knew a little more.

Jim Maguire
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Dear Geri,
     Have you posted this to other lists? I am currently also on a Maritime
history list, MARHST-L. If you would like me to pose your question to that
list or would like more information, email me at [log in to unmask] Regards
Darren Benoit
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The New York City Department of Records and INformation Services,
Municipal Archives holds the records for the NYC District Attorney as well
as the NYC Criminal Court Records.  Most or all of these records (fromthe
nineteenth century)  have been microfilmed through NEH grants.

Their telephone number is 212-788-8585 
Address 31 Chambers Street, NY, NY  10007

Barbara Lilley
Conservation/Preservation Program Officer
New York State Library

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I don't know if this will be useful (not knowing much about horse racing)
but the National Museum of Racing in Saratoga Springs has a
library/archive.

Their telephone number is 518-584-0400
Address 191 Union Avenue
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866

Barbara Lilley
New York State Library


On Tue, 21 Jan 1997 [log in to unmask] wrote:

>   I'm in the process of researching one of the greatest trotting horses of all
> time, Flora Temple.  She was born in 1845 in Oneida County, New York, and
> during the 1850's was known as "Queen of the Turf."  In 1859 she was the first
> trotter to break the 2:20 mile.
>   She was so popular in her day that babies were named after her, and she was
> immortalized many times by Currier & Ives.  Are there any local historical
> societies that may have Flora Temple posters or memorabilia?  
>   I've been in contact with the Hall of Fame of the Trotter in Goshen, NY -
> they have Flora's wagon on display.  I've also gotten several books on the
> history of race horses in America (including Woodruff's, Busbey's, Hervey's).
> Can anyone direct me to other sources?
>   My immediate goal is the creation of a Flora Temple web page as part of the
> Local History Web site at SUNY-Morrisville.  The long-term goal is to celebrate
> "Flora Temple Day" at the Equine Studies Center on the Morrisville campus,
> hopefully in September, 1997.
>   The Web address is http://www.snymor.edu/pages/library/local_history/
>   Any assistance in this project will be most appreciated. 
> *---------------------------------------------------*
> |    Sue Greenhagen, Head of Technical Services     |
> |  Library, SUNY-Morrisville, Morrisville, NY 13408 |
> |            [log in to unmask]               |
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       Where might I find a complete list of the soldiers and officers in the
regiment commanded by Lt. Col. Pliny Adams in the War of 1812? They were from
Washington Co., NY. I have dug through the Wash. Co. histories with no
success. Any suggestions? 
Thanks!
Laura Hulslander
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Response to recent inquiry about New Netherland Council Minutes:

The surviving minutes of the Council of New Netherland are at the New
York State Archives in Albany (record series 1809).  Portions of the
minutes were destroyed in the Capitol fire of 1911, and the rest were
damaged to varying degrees.  Use of the fragile original documents is
restricted.  The minutes are, of course, written in the Dutch language, in
a script that takes special training to read.

The minutes have been microfilmed, and the microfilm is available for use
at the New York State Archives.

Portions of the minutes have been translated and edited, as follows:

New York Historical Manuscripts:  Dutch.

Vol. IV:  Council Minutes, 1638-1649, trans. Arnold J.F. Van Laer, ed.
Kenneth Scott and Kenn Stryker-Rodda (Baltimore:  1974).

Vol. V:  Council Minutes, 1652-1654, trans. and ed. Charles T. Gehring
(Baltimore:  1983).

Vol. VI:  Council Minutes, 1655-1656, trans. and ed. Charles T. Gehring
(Syracuse:  1995).

Vols. V-VI are available from Syracuse University Press, 1600 Jamesville
Ave., Syracuse, NY  13244-5160.

Jim Folts
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Most records relating to service in the War of 1812 (primarily muster and
pay rolls, and compiled service records) are found in Record Group 94,
National Archives, Washington, DC 20408; phone 202-501-5400.

The New York State Archives holds transcriptions of pay rolls for New
York militia companies that were mustered into Federal service during the
War of 1812.  These transcriptions (record series B0811) contain name,
rank, amount of pay, and Captain's name.  The documents have not been
microfilmed and therefore must be used here at the New York State
Archives in Albany.

Jim Folts
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CAN ANYONE HELP ME?  I AM LOOKING FOR TWO MAPS WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO OBTAIN
COPYS,  I AN NOT SURE IF THEY ARE FROM ATLASAS OR  GAZETEETS OR WERE PRODUCED
AS FLAT MAPS.  THE FIRST  HAS THE LEDGEND, "MAP OF THE ROME WATERTOWN AND
OGDENSBURG RAILWAY AND CONNECTIONS". IT WAS PRODUCED BY RAND MCNALLY AND CO.
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BELIEVE. THEY WERE PROBABLY PRODUCED BETWEEN 1900 AND 1915.  I HAVE PIECED
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On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, James Folts wrote:

> Response to recent inquiry about New Netherland Council Minutes:
> 
> Vol. IV:  Council Minutes, 1638-1649, trans. Arnold J.F. Van Laer, ed.
> Kenneth Scott and Kenn Stryker-Rodda (Baltimore:  1974).
> 
> Vol. V:  Council Minutes, 1652-1654, trans. and ed. Charles T. Gehring
> (Baltimore:  1983).

Just my luck.  I need info from these records for 1650-1652.  Are council
records for these years what was destroyed in the fire, are they just
missing, or just not included for some other reason? Anybody know?

Regards,
				- fleet -
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Jim--
    I was afraid you'd say they weren't microfilmed. I live in TX so it's not
likely I will get there to use them. Sigh.....
    I have bits and pieces of the names of the soldiers but can't seem to get
the whole list together in one place at one time. Will keep on digging around
and see what I can find. I find good info in some unusual places!!
     Thanks for the info, it's going in my file.
Laura Hulslander
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I saw your request regarding Flora Temple and brought it to the attention 
of our librarian at the National Museum of Racing in Saratoga.  He did a 
little bit of digging in our archives and found a great series of 
articles on Flora Temple, written in late 1856-early 1857.  The source of 
these articles is called "Porter's Spirit of the Times", Volume 1, which 
began in September of 1856.  This volume also had a wonderful, color 
illustration of Flora Temple at the Union Course (near the present 
location of Belmont Park) on Long Island.  I don't know whether you have 
seen this illustration or the seven part article on her, but I think it 
would be of great interest to you if you haven't.  "Porter's" only ran 
from 1856-1860 and was preceded by the old "Spirit of the Times" and 
followed by someone else's "Spirit of the Times" after Mr. Porter died in 
1860.  If you can't find this particular publication, we would be glad to 
make a xerox copy of the articles for you...though the print is very 
small.  Otherwise, I would suggest that you call the Museum and ask for 
Tom Gilcoyne and set up an appointment to come to Saratoga and read it 
yourself.  The individual chapters are as follows:  (1)  December 27, 
1865, page 273; (2) January 3, 1857, page 292; (3) January 10, 1857, 
pages 300-301; (4) January 17, 1857, pages 318; (5) January 24, 1857, 
page 334; (6) January 31, 1857, page 350; and (7) February 7, 1857, page 
366.

I wish you good luck on your project and urge you to contact Mr. Gilcoyne 
regardless, as he is a fountain of information about racing, both flat 
and harness!

Best,  Lauren Murphy  5 Court Street  Saratoga Springs, NY  12866   
(518)580-1571
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[log in to unmask] wrote:
> 
>       I am working with poor house records from Washington Co., NY. They are
> very interesting and certainly not politcally correct with their descriptions
> of the cause for admission. They use terms such as lazy, ugly, bad character,
> simple, lunacy, etc. Also used are cripple, lameness, sickness, pregnant, old
> age, etc. The term most often used is intemperance or intemperate. Now, to
> me, that would indicate the person had some sort of drinking problem.
> However, when you read through several pages, you will find the term
> intemperance used as much as 60% of the time. I can't imagine that all these
> people truly had the problem of intemperance. My question is this--were the
> people interviewed upon entering the poor house and were they asked if they
> drank alcohol? Could it be that they just said yes, they drank (never saying
> how much) and because they said yes, they were put down as "intemperate?"
>        A few individuals have the cause for admission entered as "drunk." As
> I read through, some of these names appear over and over again and it seems
> as though they are the people with REAL drinking problems. I just wonder
> about what seems to be an excessive use of the term intemperance.
>        Does anyone know if people were asked this question on admission? I
> would like to find out if others have run across this term used on such a
> frequent basis. I'm also interested in general information on the background
> of the poor house in NY. Any suggestions as to where I can get that info? I
> have been in contact with Wash. Co. and have info on the specific poor house
> there.
> Laura Hulslander
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My own study of the Albany County Almshouse over the years 1875 through
1925 showed that very few of the people were admitted as "drunk" or
"intemperate."  The highest counts were in 1915 and 1875, when 14% and
7%, respectively, were cited for alchohol or "dope." In other census
years hardly anyone was admitted for this reason.  The proportions of
primary causes for admission, namely mental problems ("insane"),
diseases (mostly T.B and rheumatism), injuries (broken limbs),
homelessness (very high during the Depression of 1875) varied
significantly between censuses, reflecting both actual differences and
differences in perception by the institution.  Your case could reflect a
combination of actual intemperance, the intolerance of an admission
staff to drinking, and possibly the listing of an arbitrary affliction
to allow the sheltering of otherwise homeless able-bodied people,
especially during the winter.

Have you checked the NYS Archives and Manuscripts for records of the NYS
Board of Charities.  I found it interesting to see how their annual
reports for admissions varied from the almshouse censuses which are
listed by the Board of Charities and in the population census records
for each county.  The census of tramps admitted to the almshouses during
1875-1876 is also ineresting.
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Actually, The NYC Dept of Records and
Information Services (DORIS) holds
some but not all of the records of the NYC
District Attorney. Note that there are FIVE
DAs, one in each of the City's counties,
and several of which have a records
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The 1650-1652 council minutes were already missing when O'Callaghan
compiled the Calendar of Historical Manuscripts in 1865. Dependingg
on what you exactly want there are some other sources that might
be usefull, either in Albany or in Holland.

Jaap Jacobs
Leiden University
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> CAN ANYONE HELP ME?  I AM LOOKING FOR TWO MAPS WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO OBTAIN COPYS,  I AN NOT SURE IF THEY ARE FROM ATLASAS OR  GAZETEETS OR WERE PRODUCED AS FLAT MAPS.  THE FIRST  HAS THE LEDGEND, "MAP OF THE ROME WATERTOWN AND OGDENSBURG RAILWAY AND CONNECTIONS". IT WAS PRODUCED BY RAND MCNALLY AND CO.

Hi all, I just subscribed to this list, I live in Kingston, and am
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hobby of metal detecting, any way, I have a few links to historic map
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<bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1790</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><=
param>Geneva</param>

Jan 14	=09

Alexander Hamilton presents his first public credit statement to the U.
S. Congress, advocating the payment of U. S. debts at par value, and
the Federal assumption of all state debts incurred during the war.


=46eb 3	=09

New York authorizes the transfer of New Jersey's Sandy Hook lighthouse,
built by New York, to the U. S. government.


=46eb 11	=09

Congress receives its first antislavery petitions.    **    James
Madison addresses Congress on Hamilton's funding proposals.


Mar 1	=09

Congress passes the Census Act, calling for a census every ten years.=20


Mar 21	=09

Thomas Jefferson arrives in New York City and reports to President
George Washington to be made Secretary of State.    **    Canal
engineer David Bates Douglass is born in Pompton, New Jersey, to Deacon
Nathaniel Douglass and Sarah Bates of Newark.=20


Mar 22	=09

Thomas Jefferson is sworn in as U. S. Secretary of State.


Apr 4	=09

The U. S. Coast Guard is created, under the Treasury Department, to
suppress smuggling.   =20


Apr 10	=09

Congress enacts the Patent Act in an attempt to rectify the expense and
difficulty of the British patent process.


Apr 12	=09

The House of Representatives defeats the Assumption Act.


May 1	=09

Jefferson is struck by a violent headache and incapacitated for a
month.


May 26	=09

The Southwest Territory (Tennessee) is given a Territorial government.
Congress also accepts the last of North Carolina's western lands. They
are designated the Territory South of the River Ohio.


May 31	=09

Congress enacts its first copyright law.


Jun 2	=09

Jefferson moves to 57 Maiden Lane.


Jun 9	=09

The Wadsworth brothers arrive in the Genesee Valley.


Jun 20	=09

Congress, at the urging of Hamilton, passes the Assumption Act, at the
price of a compromise - the placing of the capital in a southern
location.=20


Jul 12	=09

Jefferson outlines a policy to be followed if the Spain and Britain go
to war over Nootka Sound.   =20


Jul 13	=09

Jefferson submits his Report on Coinage, Weights, and Measures.


Jul 16	=09

Congress votes in favor of the Residence Bill, to make Philadelphia
home of the national government for ten years, while another site, to
be selected by the President, is prepared.


Aug 4	=09

The Congressional Funding Act establishes public credit, authorizes the
Treasury to accept war bonds as debt payment, and assumes all state
debts to the Federal government.


Aug 7	=09

The U. S. signs a treaty with Creek Indian Alexander McGillivray at
=46ederal Hall, to preserve peace with the Indians of the southwestern
area of the states.   =20


Aug 12	=09

Congress recesses. Philadelphia becomes the temporary capital of the U.
S.=20


Aug 15	=09

Washington and Jefferson leave New York for Rhode Island.


Sep 1	=09

Jefferson leaves New York for Monticello.


Oct 7	=09

New York and Vermont come to an agreement on their common boundary. New
York relinquishes the Vermont territory for $30,000.


City

John McComb's Government House is built in lower Manhattan, as a
residence for George Washington. The U. S. Customs House sits on the
site today.   **    A U. S. Army garrison is stationed on Governor's
Island.


 State

Phelps and Gorham's land sales lag and they sell the land west of the
Genesee back to Massachusetts.    **    William Wickham and his family
leave Orange County in the fall, heading for the Finger Lakes. They
winter over in Tioga Point (Athens).</fontfamily>


<fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>


<bold>1791</bold>

May 3	=09

William Wickham and his family having left Tioga Point (Athens) and
proceeded to the Finger Lakes by way of boat, foot and canoe, arrive in
Hector to become the first permanent settlers. They quickly build the
first house there.


Jun 9	=09

Playwright-composer John Howard Payne is born in New York City.


City

The city begins a ten-year project to fill in the Collect Pond, a
source of drinking water, after pollution makes it unfit to drink.


State

=46inancier Robert Morris buys Phelps and Gorham's land west of the
Genesee River, acquiring 4,000,000 acres for $333,333.33.    **  =20
Rensselaer County is created from part of Albany County.    **    The
Society for the Promotion of Agriculture, Arts and Manufactures is
established at the Albany Academy.   **    The Albany Institute of
History and Art is founded.


<bold>1792</bold>

=46eb 14	=09

The Albany Library is incorporated.


Apr 10	=09

The Town of Fairfield is established in Warren County.


May 17	=09

The New York Stock Exchange is formed beneath a buttonwood tree on Wall
Street.=20


Oct 12	=09

New York City's Society of St. Tammany holds the first major
celebration of Columbus' discovery of America.


City

The law firm of Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft is founded.


State

Robert Morris sells most of his land in the state, east of the Genesee
River, to William Pultney and his associates.    **     Scotsman
Patrick Campbell comes to America to scout the Genesee Valley for his
countrymen, publishes <italic>Travels;1792</italic>. .    **    The
town of Chili is settled.    **    Cortland is founded.    **    John
Wells is admittd to the New York Supreme Court.


Canals

 The Western Inland Lock Navigation Company is formed by General Philip
Schuyler, to build a three-mile Little Falls canal and another linking
the Mohawk River with Wood Creek.


Netherlands

The Dutch investment house of P. & C. van Eeghen, Schimmelpennick,
Stadnitski, Van Staphorst, Vollenhoven, W. & J. Willink join together
to form the Holland Land Company. Their U. S. agent Theophile Cazenove
begins buying up land in western New York.


<bold>1793</bold>

Apr 3	=09

New York City receives the news of France's declaration of war on
Britain.


Nov 25	=09

An insurrection of slaves in Albany is put down after a number of
buildings have been burned.


City

Construction begins on the State Street home of James Watson, later to
become the Shrine of Blessed Mother (Saint) Seton. The architecture is
attributed to John McComb, Jr.


State

Robert Morris completes the sale of 3,600,000 acres of western New York
land to Theophile Cazenove.    **    Auburn is founded.    **    The
town of Seneca is founded.    **    A treaty with the Onondaga reduces
the size of their reservation.   **    Albany's Society for the
Promotion of Agriculture, Arts, and Manufactures is incorporated.    **
   New York City capitalist Herman Le Roy and associates William Bayard
and John McEvers purchase 85,000 acres of western New York land from
agent Robert Morris - the Triangle Tract. Charles Wilbur erects a cabin
in the area


New Jersey

Abolitionist, minister and college (Ingham University) president Samuel
Hansen Cox is born.


<bold>1794</bold>

City               =09

Designer Duncan Phyfe begins manufacturing furniture.    **    Bellevue
Hospital is created out of a pest house built to cope with the plague.=20
  **     Journeymen printers form the Franklin Typographical Society,
the city's first permanent labor association.


State

County boundaries are surveyed in the Military Tract.    **    Pulteney
land agent Charles Williamson arrives in the Geneva area. He lays out a
village green (later Pulteney Park).    **    John Stevens demonstrates
a steamboat.


Indians

The Pickering Treaty limits the Seneca to western New York lands.


</fontfamily>

David Minor

Eagles Byte Historical Research

Rochester, New York

716 264-0423


http://home.eznet.net/~dminor


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	Rock Hall Museum in Lawrence, Long Island was recently given a portrait
of the wife of Col. Jennings.  He is identified (on the back of the framed
portrait) as "Superintendent of Indian Affairs, one of the Supreme Council of
America, Acted as Deputy Governor of the Colony."  I'm not sure he was from New
York, but haven't been able to locate him in any references I've checked thus
far.  He may have been from one of the New england colonies.  If anyone can
provide leads to help further identify Jennings (or even better, his wife!),
I--and the museum would appreciate it.
	Natalie Naylor, Hofstra University:  NUCNZN.Hofstra.edu
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	The Long Island Studies Institute at Hofstra University has sponsored
publication of two new books on Long Island's Native Americans, both by
Professor John Strong of Southampton College of Long Island University:  "The
Algonquian Peoples of Long Island from Earliest times to 1700" includes five
chapters based on archaeology and anthropology and six chapters on the
historical period.  It covers geographical Long Island and is the first
comprehensive narrative history of Long Island Indians.  The book has more than
60 illustrations, many by a Shinnecock artist.  It is published in hardcover by
Heart of the Lakes Publishing in Interlaken, NY; 366 pages, $40.  The companion
volume, "'We Are Still Here!' The Algonguian Peoples of Long Island Today" is a
7x10 paperback with 105 pages which deals with the more recent and contemporary
past, focusing particularly on the groups remaining in eastern Long Island:
Shinnecock, Poospatuck, and Montaukett as well as the Matinecock.  Those
interested in additional information on either book can contact the Long Island
Studies Institute, c/o Natalie Naylor, Director, Hofstra University, Hempstead,
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Trying to track some background on the Kati Ferguson home(s) or Houses, circa
1920-1950), maternity facility in NYC for unwed African American young women
and girls. Here's why: 

For a Women's History Month project, I am researching the life of Katharine
Bement Davis (1860-1935): first Chicago University woman Ph. D. recipient
(1900), first superintendent of NY State Reformatory for Women in Bedford
Hills (1901-13), first woman NYCity Correction Commissioner (1914-15),
possibly first woman for NY statewide office on a then-major party ticket
before women could vote (Constitutional Convention delegate-at-large
candidate  Progressive Party 1914), first chairperson of NYCity Parole
Commission she helped create (1916-17), pioneer in social research on
sexuality (long before Dr. Kinsey) as head of Rockefeller-funded Bureau of
Social Hygiene (1918-28).
     Names at her 1928 testimonial read like Who's Who in Progressive Era
Social Reform America. The printed program and newspaper stories list
speakers telling about phases in her life (a "This Is Your Life" format). I
have gotten information on most of speakers and/or their testimonial topics
except three, one of whom was Alderman Fred R. Moore who spoke on the "Kati
Ferguson Houses."  I know he was publisher of "New York Age," an
African-American weekly, and leader of a black businessmen's group. I know
Kati (Catherine) Ferguson was an ex-slave who ran a successful NYC pastry
business in the late 1700s and early 1800s and founded a school for the poor.
I know that, besides Moore, a Mrs. Willard Parker of kati Ferguson Homes was
involved in the Davis testimonial. And I know biographers have reported that
Davis chaired the board of a maternity home for unwed black women, but the
facility is unnmaed. As a working assumption, I conclude the home that goes
nameless in the bio book entries is the Kati Ferguson Home. But I don't have
that absolutely nailed down, and even if I go with it, I don't have how long
she served or other details. I don't know who Mrs. Parker is nor how Mr.
Moore figures into it. 

Right now the pressure of other business at the office prevents me from
library raids during the day and opportunity at night is limited so that when
I do get there i must maximize the little time i have before closing. I would
appreciate leads. Thanks.

My name is Thomas McCarthy, director of editorial / communication services
with the NYC Dept. of Correction. I plan special Women History Month articles
in our newsletter and web page. I also am a graduate student (distance
learning) with California State University at Dominguez Hills. My office
phone is 212 266-1016. My office fax is 212 266-1597. My personal email
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Prisons, Dictionary of Notable Am. Women, Bio. Dictionary of Social Welfare,
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	The only Col. Jennings I know of is Edmund Jenings (Jennings) who
was acting governor of Virginia from 1706 to 17l0.  But I cannot find any
record of his being Superintendent of Indian Affairs or anything else.
Maybe there is another Colonel Jennings out there hiding in the colonial
bushes.

Milton M. Klein
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Room 3, Hoskins Library
University of Tennessee
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On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, NATALIE A. NAYLOR wrote:

> 	Rock Hall Museum in Lawrence, Long Island was recently given a portrait
> of the wife of Col. Jennings.  He is identified (on the back of the framed
> portrait) as "Superintendent of Indian Affairs, one of the Supreme Council of
> America, Acted as Deputy Governor of the Colony."  I'm not sure he was from New
> York, but haven't been able to locate him in any references I've checked thus
> far.  He may have been from one of the New england colonies.  If anyone can
> provide leads to help further identify Jennings (or even better, his wife!),
> I--and the museum would appreciate it.
> 	Natalie Naylor, Hofstra University:  NUCNZN.Hofstra.edu
> 

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I write a newspaper column for the Oneida paper and put in your request
for information about flora Temple. good luck!
Geri Wagner

On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Robert J. Hammerslag wrote:

> I saw your request regarding Flora Temple and brought it to the attention 
> of our librarian at the National Museum of Racing in Saratoga.  He did a 
> little bit of digging in our archives and found a great series of 
> articles on Flora Temple, written in late 1856-early 1857.  The source of 
> these articles is called "Porter's Spirit of the Times", Volume 1, which 
> began in September of 1856.  This volume also had a wonderful, color 
> illustration of Flora Temple at the Union Course (near the present 
> location of Belmont Park) on Long Island.  I don't know whether you have 
> seen this illustration or the seven part article on her, but I think it 
> would be of great interest to you if you haven't.  "Porter's" only ran 
> from 1856-1860 and was preceded by the old "Spirit of the Times" and 
> followed by someone else's "Spirit of the Times" after Mr. Porter died in 
> 1860.  If you can't find this particular publication, we would be glad to 
> make a xerox copy of the articles for you...though the print is very 
> small.  Otherwise, I would suggest that you call the Museum and ask for 
> Tom Gilcoyne and set up an appointment to come to Saratoga and read it 
> yourself.  The individual chapters are as follows:  (1)  December 27, 
> 1865, page 273; (2) January 3, 1857, page 292; (3) January 10, 1857, 
> pages 300-301; (4) January 17, 1857, pages 318; (5) January 24, 1857, 
> page 334; (6) January 31, 1857, page 350; and (7) February 7, 1857, page 
> 366.
> 
> I wish you good luck on your project and urge you to contact Mr. Gilcoyne 
> regardless, as he is a fountain of information about racing, both flat 
> and harness!
> 
> Best,  Lauren Murphy  5 Court Street  Saratoga Springs, NY  12866   
> (518)580-1571
> 

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Try "Jane's Fighting Ships." Should be in most good libraries.
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Trying to track some background on the Kati Ferguson home(s) or Houses, circa
1920-1950)..


Dear Thomas McCarthy:

I have run across Mrs. Willard Parker several times, and if you are 
interested, let me know and I will look up my references.  Briefly, 
Mrs. Parker was active in child welfare matters through the 1940s.  
She was an officer (president or vice-president of the Federation of
 Protestant Welfare Agencies, president of the board of the Riverdale 
Children's Home (colored orphan asylum), and, I gather, other New York
 agencies.

She was against racial integration: she figures in the fight by 
protestant child welfare agencies in 1942 to block the City's attempt 
to integrate child welfare agencies so that there would be additional 
placements for African American children.  (See my article in Social 
Service Review, March 1995).  

Davis sounds like a most interesting person.  Would like to know more 
about her.

Eve Smith, University of Windsor
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>Try "Jane's Fighting Ships." Should be in most good libraries.


Thank you very much for this information


Geri



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