This may be of interest to some subscribers because there is a strong NY connection. Received: from listserv (listserv.iupui.edu [134.68.220.62]) by iris.iupui.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA19506; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU by LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8c) with spool id 1658124 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:16:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (ncph@localhost) by champion.iupui.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA11270 for <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:16:32 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:16:32 -0500 Reply-To: Public History Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Public History Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Joyce Haibe <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Edison Conference (fwd) To: [log in to unmask] Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:08:59 -0500 From: EDIS Curatorial <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Edison Conference ------------------------------------------ Conference Announcement THOMAS A. EDISON SESQUICENTENNIAL CONFERENCE "INTERPRETING EDISON" June 25-27, 1997 In recognition of the 150th anniversary of Thomas A. Edison's birth, the National Park Service, Organization of American Historians and New Jersey Studies Academic Alliance are pleased to announce a three-day conference, "Interpreting Edison." This conference, which will be held June 25-27, 1997 at Rutgers University-Newark and the Edison National Historic Site, will examine the interpretation of Edison's life and work in academic scholarship, at museums and historic sites, and in the classroom. Scholars from the United States, Canada and Europe will present new research on Edison's role as inventor, business leader and cultural figure. Representatives from five major U.S. Edison-related sites will discuss their interpretative and museum management programs. There will also be a series of sessions designed to help teachers integrate Edison-related themes into the history curriculum. In the opening session, distinguished historians Ruth S. Cowan, David Nye, Thomas Schlereth, John M. Staudenmeier and Alan Trachtenberg will offer their insights on Edison's place in American history. Other highlights of the conference include a virtual tour of Edison's reconstructed Menlo Park Laboratory at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan; lunch on the grounds of Edison's estate, Glenmont; and a demonstration of the Library of Congress early motion picture webpage. Edison descendant and University of New Haven professor David Edison Sloane will speak about the Edison family at the conference banquet. For more information about the conference, or registration details, please contact: Leonard DeGraaf Edison National Historic Site Main Street and Lakeside Avenue West Orange, New Jersey 07052 201-736-0550, ext. 22 Internet: [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 2 10:02:42 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mailer.syr.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA05630; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:02:41 -0500 Received: from rodan.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id 2A465040 ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:03:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (mmrecht@localhost) by rodan.syr.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05963 for <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:03:06 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rodan.syr.edu: mmrecht owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:03:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael M. Recht" <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Alice Austen In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 724 Amy, There is one text devoted to Austen's life and work written by Ann Novotny. Title is ALICE'S WORLD:..... Might help if you haven't already seen it. Michael Recht On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 [log in to unmask] wrote: > I am doing research on the photographer Alice Austen. Does anyone out there > have any information on this nineteenth century photographer who was born and > lived in Staten Island (1866-1952)? I have been to the Museum on SI and the > SI historical society. Right now I am hoping to locate letters that Austen > may have written to relatives and friends in the Catskill and Adirondack > areas. Also I am looking for photographs that may not be in the collections > on Staten Island. Thank you. Amy > From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 2 12:33:36 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05928; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:33:33 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA09744 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:33:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:33:54 -0500 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Driggs Avenue name content-length: 180 Marshall Sylvanus Driggs (b. 1834) was President of the Williamsburgh City Fire Insurance Company in the 1890's - but I don't know if it's his namesake, or when. Christopher Gray From [log in to unmask] Sat Jan 4 21:49:31 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA02501; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:49:30 -0500 Received: from [132.236.102.33] (CU-DIALUP-0019.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.102.33]) by postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17188 for <[log in to unmask]>; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:49:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:49:53 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <v03010001adbd61ed47b9@[132.236.102.68]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: [log in to unmask] From: carol kammen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: suffrage content-length: 831 In October of 1885, a "few" women attempted to vote in the presidential election in Ithaca. The newspaper account states that they did not succeed in depositing their ballots and nothing further is mentioned of the episode. I know that in 1872 Susan B. Anthony attempted to vote in the presidential election. She was stopped, arrested, and fined $100 which she didn't pay and the county officials refused to press the matter thereby preventing her from taking her case to a higher court. Are there other episodes of New York women attempting to vote before being granted the right? In the nineteenth century, some women voted in school board elections. Were those qualifications set by the state or by the various counties? With appreciation for any examples any of you might have. Carol Kammen [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 6 10:01:06 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from VAXC.HOFSTRA.EDU by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA12479; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:01:05 -0500 Received: from vaxc.hofstra.edu by vaxc.hofstra.edu (PMDF V5.0-8 #15259) id <[log in to unmask]> for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 06 Jan 1997 10:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 10:01:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "NATALIE A. NAYLOR" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: suffrage To: [log in to unmask] Message-id: <[log in to unmask]> X-VMS-To: IN%"[log in to unmask]" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT content-length: 612 In the "History of Woman Suffrage" edited by Susan B. Anthony et al. (1902;rept,1970; 4:854) there's reference to a New York 1880 law "which conferred School Suffrage on women in villages and country districts" from which I infer that it's the state which set qualifications (though it also notes there had been questions re constitutionality of the law). If there were other examples of women voting in New York in the 19th century, I would think it should be mentioned in this detailed compilation. I did not find any examples in researching the suffrage movement on Long Island. Natalie Naylor, Hofstra From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 6 12:22:44 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from VM.TEMPLE.EDU by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA13661; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 12:22:43 -0500 Received: from VM.TEMPLE.EDU by VM.TEMPLE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 8608; Mon, 06 Jan 97 12:23:24 EST Received: from VM.TEMPLE.EDU (NJE origin ALEXANDE@TEMPLEVM) by VM.TEMPLE.EDU (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 1163; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 12:23:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 12:14:11 EST From: "Robert E. Wright" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY Subject: Re: suffrage To: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:49:53 -0500 (EST) from <[log in to unmask]> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> content-length: 1645 Professor Kammen, Per your question of women voting, have you considered looking at corporate records. It has long been known that women owned significant chunks of corporations in New England by the 1830s and I know from my own research that women owned as much as a quarter of banks in New York and Philadelphia as early as the 1790s. What I have yet to uncover is whether women stockholders could vote in corporate elections for directors &c. They certainly could not be told they did not have a "stake" in the institution. Most votes would have been given by proxy but is a vote nonetheless and no further removed than voting for president through the electoral college. This notion struck me during the writing phase of my research and I have been unable to follow up. There may be relevant corp. records at Cornell. One final thought: it seems the early suffragists came from the same socio-eco. groups that owned the corporate stock. It may even be that voting in corporate elections spurred their desire to vote in governmental elections. If you would like further particulars, feel free to contact me. Yours, Robert Wright +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | | | Dr. Robert E. Wright [log in to unmask] | | Biographical Dictionary http://www.temple.edu/history/ | Temple University 215-204-3406 | | | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 6 13:01:47 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from valley.vlc.lib.mi.us by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA14103; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:01:46 -0500 Received: by valley.vlc.lib.mi.us; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/06Oct95-1028AM) id AA05748; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:03:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:03:23 -0500 (EST) From: Anna Mae Maday <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: suffrage In-Reply-To: <v03010001adbd61ed47b9@[132.236.102.68]> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 682 We have a couple of references of women voting in Saginaw Michigan before WWI, and another curious case that I found out about involved a black man who tried to vote in an election in Saginaw County in the 1860's. He was prevented from doing so because of his race. He protested and said that he was of Indian descent and eligible under the law. Long ago I lost this newspaper reference date and was hoping to check in our courthouse records because he supposedly went to court over it. Has anyone ever heard of a similar case elsewhere? Anna Mae Maday Eddy Historical & Genealogy Collection Hoyt Public Library 505 Janes Ave Saginaw MI 48607 [log in to unmask] 517-755-9827 From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 6 17:13:17 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA16665; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:13:16 -0500 Received: from [132.236.102.22] (CU-DIALUP-0008.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.102.22]) by postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00156 for <[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:13:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:13:44 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <v03010001adbfc1956995@[132.236.102.41]> In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> References: <v03010001adbd61ed47b9@[132.236.102.68]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: [log in to unmask] From: carol kammen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: suffrage content-length: 313 Thanks for the interesting examples. I don't know of any instances here when African Amrican men attempted to vote, but I will follow up on this as I do have a list of property owners. In NY, until the passage of the 15th amend. a man had to have property worth 250 to vote. with appreciation, carol kammen From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 6 17:15:47 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA16692; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:15:46 -0500 Received: from [132.236.102.22] (CU-DIALUP-0008.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.102.22]) by postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01022 for <[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:16:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:16:15 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <v03010006adbfc765c731@[132.236.102.22]> In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> References: Message of Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:49:53 -0500 (EST) from <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: [log in to unmask] From: carol kammen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: suffrage content-length: 444 Robert Wright Thanks for the very interesting suggestions. I certainly had never considered this corporate angle before. Though, I do know that Kate Gleason of Rochester became an early bank president after some hesitation on the part of the board -- and I might not have this exactly right -- about allowing her to vote. I really don't know the story well; but it might work with your suggestions. Thanks for the help. carol kammen From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 7 01:09:13 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mail1.eznet.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA19321; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 01:09:12 -0500 Received: from [207.50.129.62] (dialup52.roc-tc1.eznet.net [207.50.129.62]) by mail1.eznet.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA31036; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:03:05 -0500 Message-Id: <v03007802aef786d618bc@[207.50.129.17]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:05:24 -0500 To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] From: David Minor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: NYNY 1775-1779 content-length: 20700 <fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1775 January =09 The Middlesex County, New Jersey, Committee of Observations councils all patriots to live frugally and avoid any materials printed by New York City Loyalist printer James Rivington. ** The <italic>HMS Kingfisher</italic> ties up in New York City's Turtle Bay. Admiral Graves advises captains to stay moored away from piers, to discourage the desertion of crews. ** New York State's Assembly rejects a proposal to consider Congressional proceedings. The vote is 11 to 10. =46eb 2 =09 A subcommittee of the Congressional Association in New York City prevents the unloading of cargo from Glasgow, aboard the ship <italic>James</italic>. March New York's Assembly forwards a Memorial to the House of Lords, a Petition to King George and a Remonstrance to the House of Commons. April The immigrant ship <italic>Jenny </italic>sails from Hull, England, to Nova Scotia. Among the passengers is William Johnson, traveling to New York's Mohawk Valley to claim his estate. ** Benedict Arnold informs the Committee of Safety at Cambridge that Fort Ticonderoga is in no condition to withstand an assault. May The <italic>Jackie of Glasgow </italic>leaves Stranraer, Scotland, with 81 passengers aboard, bound for New York colony. ** The Reverend Myles Cooper, president of New York City's Kings college and a Tory pamphleteer, is forced to flee his home when confronted with a mob. =20 ** Congress resolves to ban exports to the port of Boston and the British fisheries, excepting St. John's Parish in Georgia. It also decides to abandon Crown Point and Fort Ticonderoga, rmoving all stores to the southern end of Lake George. ** Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold write to Congress from Crown Point, advocating the retention of=20 the forts at Crown Point and Ticonderoga. May 10 =09 Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold capture Fort Ticonderoga. May 12 =09 Seth Warren's troops seize Crown Point on Lake Champlain from the British. They confiscate a schooner from loyalist Major Philip Skeene. May 23 =09 A provincial congress meets in New York City to oppose the Tory party in the colony. June The <italic>Favourite </italic>registers a voyage to the colonies at Whitehaven, England. Jun 8 =09 Commissioners of the Scots American Company leave New York City to explore lands to the north. August =09 The <italic>Favourite </italic> reaches New York City. ** =20 American brigadier general Richard Montgomery leaves Crown Point with 1200 men, for Montr=E9al. ** Some New York residents, fearing the city may be attacked by the <italic>HMS Asia</italic>, evacuate the city. ** The New York Provincial Congress alerts the Pennsylvania Committee of Safety to the danger of war and requests they keep their militia raedy to come to New York's aid. ** Virginia-born Nathaniel Rochester, now a resident of North Carolina, attends his colony's first provincial convention, as a member. He's given a major's commission and appointed a justice of the peace. September Congress selects New York delegate Samuel Lewis to buy wool to clothe army troops. Sep 4 =09 The ship <italic>Glasgow </italic>leaves Fort William, Scotland, with 251 emigrants aboard. Oct 31 =09 The <italic>Glasgow </italic>arrives off New York City and is sent on to Boston by city officials acting on Admiral Graves orders. November James Whitelaw, David Allen and James Henderson begin laying out the site for Ryegate for the Scots American Company. ** Isaac Sears and other Connecticut rebels raid loyalist printer Rivington and remove his type. The General Committee considers a request to investigate. December New York governor Tryon has the colony's public records pertaining to the Crown loaded onto the armed ship <italic>Duchess of Gordon</italic>. They will remain there until November of 1781. City The population reaches 25.000. State The Iroquous attempt to remain neutral. Pennsylvania New York State pioneer Moses Van Campen takes part in a military expedition against New England settlers in New York's Wyoming Valley, becomes a militia captain, remaining in Pennsylvania.=20 Vermont A convention held in Cumberland County advocates a Crown Province separate from New York and New Hampshire, named Vermont. 1776 January Colonel Heard of the New Jersey forces arrives in New York State's Queens County by order on Congress, to compel loyalists to yield their arms, The ringleaders cannot be located. Jan 24 =09 Colonel Henry Knox arrives in Cambridge, Massachusetts, with 43 cannon and 16 mortars captured at Ticonderoga. =46ebruary New York congressional delegate Francis Lewis is authorized to buy shoes for the army. He will find a supplier in New Jersey. =46eb 15 =09 James Whitelaw borrows =A3100 from the Scots American Company treasury to pay for Ryegate's mills. April Wagons loaded with powder for New York are moved from Boston to Norwich, Connecticut. Private David Howe is part of the escort. Apr 13 =09 Washington begins moving his troops to New York City to keep General Howe away.=20 May The citizens of Ryegate meet to select military officers. May 1 =09 Arnold begins moving his troops away from futile siege of Montr=E9al, headed for the Lake Champlain region. May 29 =09 The New York committee advocates independence. June John Gansevent sells his property, Oswald Field, south of Albany to John Cumming. ** A council of war meeting in Sorel, Canada, recommends Sullivan and his forces retire to Crown Point. ** New York City's public records are removed to Kingston for safekeeping. Jun 4 =09 General Lee arrives in Charles Town, South Carolina, from New York. Jun 27 =09 Thomas Hickey, one of George Washington's guards, is hanged in New York City for plotting to kidnap Washington for the British, becoming the first person to be executed by the U. S. Army. Jun 29 =09 General Howe and his brother, Vice Admiral Richard Howe, arrive off Staten Island, in New York Bay, with a large fleet. Jun 30 =09 General Howe disembarks his troops. Jul 2 =09 Twelve colonies, New York abstaining, vote to support Richard Henry Lee's resolution for independence.=20 Jul 7 =09 Albany loyalist John Johnson is permitted to form the King's Royal Regiment, of fellow loyalists, in Canada. Jul 9 =09 New York votes to endorse the Declaration. The Declaration is proclaimed in Philadelphia. ** A provincial congress in the Hudson Valley declares itself to be the legitimate legislature of New York State. ** The equestrian statue of King George III in New York City's Bowling Green is toppled by citizens gathered to hear the reading of the Declaration. Jul 11 =09 The Declaration of Independence is published by New York's <italic>Packet</italic> and <italic>Journal</italic> and Annapolis' <italic>Gazette</italic>.=20 Jul 12 =09 Vice Admiral Howe arrives off Staten Island with 150 transports of reinforcements, raising the total area British forces to 32,000. August David Bushnell's prototype submarine <italic>American Turtle</italic> penetrates the Bristish fleet in New York harbor but his operator Ezra Lee fails to attach his bomb to an enemy ship. Aug 1 =09 Sir Henry Clinton's forces join those of General Howe on Staten Island after arriving from Charles Town. Aug 22 =09 General Howe moves 20,000 troops from Staten Island to Brooklyn. Aug 25 =09 General Howe moves around behind Washington's forces on Brooklyn Heights. Aug 27 =09 The Battle of Long Island. Washington's army, under Israel Putnam, Sullivan and William Alexander, is defeated. Aug 29 =09 Without the knowledge of the British, Washington withdraws his army to Manhattan.=20 September The New York State Convention requests that Washington remove all public bells and move them to New Jersey for safe keeping from the British seeking materials fo casting cannon. ** Washington writes from Harlem Heights to general Hugh Mercer in New Jersey, directing him to set up an intelligence network to monitor the movements of Admiral Howe's ships. ** Congress authorizes replacing the phrase "United Colonies" with "United States" in all American commissions and authorizes Washington to abandon New York City if necessary. ** =20 Benedict Arnold calls upon Congress to provide winter clothing, rum and artillery. ** Washington's Council of War begins recommending evacuation of New York City. Sep 6 =09 A peace conference is held on Staten Island. General Howe demands the Declaration be revoked and the American commissioners (John Adams, Benjamin Franklin and John Rutledge) refuse. Sep 12 =09 Washington decides to evacuate New York City, begins moving troops north. Sep 15 =09 The British land at Kips Bay, on the eastern shore of Manhattan. Washington retreats to Harlem Heights. Sep 16 =09 Washington repulses General Howe at Harlem Heights. The battle delays the British advance. Sep 21 =09 =46ire sweeps New York City, destroying 300 buildings. Nathan Hale is arrested by the British. Sep 22 =09 Nathan Hale is hanged as a spy by the British, in New York City. October Congress discusses uniforms for Rhode Island forces and has $500,000 sent by wagon to New York to pay bounties for reenlistment. Oct 5 =09 British warships force their way up the Hudson, past the defenses at =46ort Lee, New Jersey and Fort Washington, New York. Oct 11 =09 Arnold's make-shift fleet delays a British Navy under Sir Guy Carleton at Valcour Island, in Lake Champlain. Oct 12 =09 Clinton takes his forces through Hell Gate to Throg's Neck, Long Island, escorted by the <italic>HMS Craysfort</italic>. Oct 13 =09 The surviving U. S. fleet on Champlain is destroyed at Split Rock. Oct 18 =09 The British advance out of New York City, transferred from Throg's Neck, is delayed by a U. S. defense at Pell's Point. Oct 23 =09 Washington evacuates Manhattan, marches toward White Plains. Oct 28 =09 General Howe defeats Washington at White Plains, forcing him to withdraw to North Castle. November Lord Germain writes from London to Vice Admiral Howe, praising him for his success in New York. Nov 1 =09 U. S. troops burn barns in White Plains. Washington orders the commander court-martialled. Nov 16 =09 General Howe and 13,000 troops capture 2,818 Americans at Fort Washington. Nov 18 =09 Washington abandons New York, retreats across the Hudson, starts west through NewJersey. Nov 26 =09 New York's Committee of Safety meets at Fishkill, decides to build a chevaux de frise across the Hudson River from Pollopel (later Bannerman's) Island to Plum Point, to deny British vessels access to the northern portions of the river. Manufacturing Paper maker Nathan Sellers joins the Continental Army but is soon put to work in his professional capacity, to provide the material for currency. Medicine The New York Hospital is founded. City Washington begins strengthening the city's fortifications early in the summer, fortifying Manhattan, Governor's Island, Red Hook, and Brooklyn Heights, as well as areas of New Jersey. ** David Matthews is appointed mayor for the next nine one-year terms. State Andrew Brock is named treasurer of Ryegate. ** John Church sells half of his upstate holdings to John Pagan. ** Geologist Amos Eaton is born. ** English Shakers arrive in Albany County from New York City; organize themselves into the Watervliet Society of the United Society of Believers in Christ's First and Second Appearing. =20 ** The first ships of the U. S. Navy are built at Skenesborough (laer Whitehall). 1777 January New York State Loyalist John Cumming goes into New York City to discover how to handle his delicate political situation, refuses a commission in the British army. Jan 2 =09 Cornwallis heads south out of New York. Jan 15 =09 The New Hampshire Grants, claimed by New York and New Hampshire, declare their independence, as the "republic" of New Connecticut. Jan 29 =09 British general John Burgoyne begins making his plans for the conquest of the colonies. =46eb 28 =09 Burgoyne meets with Lord George Germain in London and presents his plan for an attack on U. S. forces in New York State. March John Cumming is arrested and jailed by New York as dangerous to the rebellion. Apr 20 =09 A state constitutional convention, meeting in Kingston creates New York State. Jun 17 =09 Burgoyne begins his campaign south from Canada, along the Champlain-Hudson waterways. July George Clinton takes office as New York State's first governor. Jul 1 =09 Burgoyne's troops arrive at Fort Ticonderoga. He issues a warning proclamation to the colonists. Jul 5 =09 General St Clair abandons Ticonderoga. Jul 6 =09 Burgoyne moves into Ticonderoga, capturing important American supplies. Jul 7 =09 The Americans retreating from Ticonderoga are defeated at Hubbartton, Vermont. Jul 23 =09 Howe sails from New York to capture Philadelphia. Jul 26 =09 Colonel Barry St. Leger's army ascends the Oswego River. Jul 27 =09 Settler Jane McCrea is murdered by Burgoyne's Indians. Jul 29 =09 U. S. general Philip Schuyler abandons Fort Edwards, retreats down the Hudson Valley. Aug 3 =09 St. Leger begins a siege of Fort Stanwix in the Mohawk Valley. Aug 6 =09 A force under Nicholas Herkimer, including Oneida Indian troops, coming to the aid of Fort Stanwix, is ambushed at Oriskany, New York, by Loyalists, and Mohawks under their chief Joseph Brant. Herkimer is mortally wounded. St. Leger fails to take Stanwix. Aug 22 =09 Arnold arrives at Fort Stanwix with reinforcements. St. Leger ends his siege, returns to Canada. September John Cumming escapes and is recaptured. Sep 9 =09 The first New York State legislature meets, in Kingston. It soon adjourns. Sep 19 =09 The first Battle of Saratoga (or Freeman's Farm). General Daniel Morgan and Colonel Henry Dearborn defeat Burgoyne's forces. ** The Oneida chief Honyere dines with General Schuyler in Albany and agrees to aid Gates' army. October James Whitelaw discovers that the Scots American Company has not honored his 1776 draft to build Ryegate 's mills and has dismissed him as manager, for exceeding his authority. Oct 3 =09 Sir Henry Clinton moves north out of New York City, captures two forts on the Hudson. Oct 7 =09 The second Battle of Saratoga (Bemis Heights). Gates, Arnold, Morgan and General Ebenezer Learned defeat, and capture Burgoyne's forces. Oct 16 =09 Clinton burns Esopus (Kingston), heads back to Manhattan, abandoning any attempt to reach Burgoyne. State records were removed to Rochester township in Ulster County when the British were sighted. Oct 17 =09 Burgoyne formally surrenders his forces to Gates - the Convention of Saratoga. City The Council of Appointment is formed, to appoint the city's mayors. State - The village of Bern raises a militia company of 85. ** =20 The crown post of Secretary of State falls under the jursidiction of the Council of Appointment. ** A chain across the Hudson at Fort Montgomery fails to halt British ships. 1778 March =09 New York 's Secretary of State and various county clerks are advised to pack up all government records, in case it becomes necessary to evacuate them. May =46ifty Oneida Indians arrive at Valley Forge and almost immediately participate in the action at Barren Hill under Lafayette. May 30 =09 300 Iroquois, goaded by the British, burn Cobleskill. Jun 18 =09 Sir Henry Clinton's forces evacuate Philadelphia, begin marching to New York. U. S. civilians move into the city. Jul 5 =09 Clinton's forces embark in barges from New Jersey's Sandy Hook, headed for New York City. Jul 8 =20 Washington sets up headquarters at West Point. Jul 9 =09 The Articles of Confederation are signed in Philadelphia by Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia and South Carolina. Nov 11 =09 Tories and Iroquois Indians, lead by Sir John Butler and Joseph Brant, massacre settlers of Cherry Valley. State =46uture Syracuse pioneer Ephraim Webster enlists in the Continental Army. 1779 May 31 =09 The British under Clinton take Stony Point and Verplanck Point, on the Hudson. June The Oneida chief Honyere is commissioned as a captain in the U. S. Army. Jun 18 =09 The Sullivan expedition, under General John Sullivan, leaves Easton, Pennsylvania. Among the expedition is future Le Roy pioneer Captain John Ganson. July New York's royal governor Tryon leads an expedition along the Connecticut coast, burning Fairfield, Norwalk, and ships in New Haven harbor. Jul 15 =09 Mad Anthony Wayne, guided by the black soldier Pompey, retakes Stony Point from the British, capturing the entire garrison. Aug 11 =09 Sullivan's forces ford the Susquehanna at its junction with the Tioga River, reach the former site of Tioga, march on to the Indian town of Shamong(Chemung), arriving in the evening to find it evacuated. They destroy crops and return to Tioga. Aug 26 =09 Delayed a day by heavy rain, Sullivan's forces depart Tioga. Aug 29 =09 John Sullivan and James Clinton defeat Loyalist commander Sir John Johnson and Joseph Brant, at Newtown near Elmira, ridding the colony of Loyalists and their Indian allies. Cornplanter, Red Jacket and Handsome Lake fight on the British side. Sep 1 =09 General Sullivan begins a two-week series of retaliatory raids against the Seneca and Cayuga Indian villages throughout central New York's =46inger Lake region. After the Seneca defeat at Newtown they end up at Niagara. Sullivan arrives at the deserted Indian village of French Catharine (named for a former captive) by midnight. Sep 2 =09 Lieutenant William Barton, of Sullivan's forces, reconnoitres the area around Seneca Lake. =20 Sep 5 =09 Sullivan arrives at the village of Appletown (Kendae, Condoy), already fired by the Indians. =20 Sep 7 =09 Sullivan crosses the outlet of Seneca Lake and arrives at the Indian capital, Kanadasaga (Canadesaga, Cunnusedago, known today as Geneva). =20 Sep 10 =09 Sullivan reaches Genessee Lake (Canandaigua Lake) burns the village of Kanandarqua (Veruneudaga, today's Canandaigua). Sep 11 =09 Sullivan reaches Onyauyah (Honeoye). Sep 12 =09 Sullivan nears Genesee Castle or Little Beard's Town (Cuylerville), named for its chief Sep 13 =09 Sullivan reaches Canessah (Conesus, or Big Tree's Town), defeating an Indian force there, then forges on to Casawavalatetah, on a small barnch of the Genesee River, and encamps. He sends Lieutenant Thomas Boyd to scout the area of Genesee Castle. Boyd takes a party of 28 (including the Oneida chief Honyere (Hanyerry) and Captain Jehoiakim, a Stockbrige Indian). Not knowing the way, they arrive at Gatht-seg-war-o-hare, about five miles south-southeast of their goal. Boyd sends four men to report back to Sullivan, and has an Indian horseman killed in the deserted village. Three other mounted Indians escape, sound the alarm. Boyd begins the return to Sullivan, sends two men ahead. They return and advise Boyd that five Indians are ahead on the trail. Despite advice from Hanyerry, Boyd pursues and is ambushed by a party of over 500 Indians and Tories. He and Michael Parker are taken prisoner and taken to Cuylerville. Questioned, they refuse to buy their freedom with information, and are tortured to death, then beheaded. Sep 14 =09 Sullivan's forces reach Little Beard's Town, find the remains of Boyd and Parker, bury them that night. =20 Sep 15 =09 Sullivan burns the Indians' crops and food supply. He declares that the objectives of the mission have been met. Sep 16 =09 The bodies of the remainder of Boyd's party are found at Canessah (Conesus, or Big Tree's Town), all (including Hanyerry) mutilated. They are buried that day. Sep 17 =09 Sullivan returns to Honeoye. Sep 18 =09 Sullivan returns to Canandaigua. Sep 19 =09 Sullivan returns to Kanadasaga. Sep 30 =09 Sullivan reports to Congress that his forces have destoryed forty villages and at least 160,000 bushels of corn, losing under forty men. They have also cut down or girdled fruit trees all along the way. Oct 15 =09 Sullivan and Clinton's forces arrive back at Easton, Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania Militiaman Moses Van Campen joins Washington's army as a quartermaster; marches into New York State with Sullivan. </fontfamily> David Minor Eagles Byte Historical Research Rochester, New York 716 264-0423 http://home.eznet.net/~dminor From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 7 08:44:19 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from pppmail.appliedtheory.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA19928; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:44:17 -0500 Received: from behavior by pppmail.appliedtheory.com (8.6.12/3.1.090690-Applied Theory Communications) id IAA19665; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:48:24 -0500 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 09:50:16 +0000 From: "Robert V. Shear" <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Organization: Syracuse Behavioral Healthcare (http://www.SBH.org) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: suffrage References: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 742 As I recall the story, SBA was permitted to vote, and charged after the fact. Gerrit Smith (htp://www.SBH.org/gsmith.htm) in one of his printed letters, sent Anthony the money and urged her to pay the fine, or to put the money to some other good purpose. (The fine was not paid.) On the school board elections, there's a booklet in the state library of a paper written by Barbara Rivette titled Matilda Joslyn Gage - Fayetteville's First Woman Voter. As I recall, the paper discusses the passage of the law allowing women to vote in these elections. Gage (http://www.nps.gov/wori/gage.htm, co-editor with Stanton & Anthony of the first three volumes of A History of Woman Suffrage) was given the honor of being first in line. Bob Shear From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 7 09:33:14 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from epix.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA20619; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:33:13 -0500 Received: from art77.epix.net (svcr-84ppp219.epix.net [199.224.84.219]) by epix.net (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA15964 for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:31:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 10:30:42 -0800 From: Art Prutzman <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Artco X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: NYNY 1775-1779 References: <v03007802aef786d618bc@[207.50.129.17]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 1789 David Minor wrote: > > 1775 > January > The Middlesex County, New Jersey, Committee of Observations councils > all patriots to live frugally and avoid any materials printed by New > York City Loyalist printer James Rivington. ** The HMS Kingfisher ties > up in New York City's Turtle Bay. Admiral Graves advises captains to > stay moored away from piers, to discourage the desertion of crews. ** > New York State's Assembly rejects a proposal to consider Congressional > proceedings. The vote is 11 to 10. > > Feb 2 > A subcommittee of the Congressional Association in New York City > prevents the unloading of cargo from Glasgow, aboard the ship James. > > March > New York's Assembly forwards a Memorial to the House of Lords, a > Petition to King George and a Remonstrance to the House of Commons. > > April > The immigrant ship Jenny sails from Hull, England, to Nova Scotia. > Among the passengers is William Johnson, traveling to New York's > Mohawk Valley to claim his estate. ** Benedict Arnold informs the > Committee of Safety at Cambridge that Fort Ticonderoga is in no > condition to withstand an assault. > >r of 1781. > > City > The population reaches 25.000. > > State > The Iroquous attempt to remain neutral. > > Pennsylvania > New York State pioneer Moses Van Campen takes part in a military > expedition against New England settlers in New York's Wyoming Valley, > becomes a militia captain, remaining in Pennsylvania. Very excellent, thank you... but I'm confused about NY going against Wyoming Valley New England Settlers, were the New England Settlers loyalist? Wasn't Wyoming Valley still considered Connecticutt? Art Prutzman > > David Minor > Eagles Byte Historical Research > Rochester, New York > 716 264-0423 > > http://home.eznet.net/~dminor From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 7 10:57:47 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA21145; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:57:47 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jan 1997 10:54:34 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 10:57:47 -0500 From: Bob Arnold <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: NYNY 1775-1779 -Reply content-length: 613 David, I believe you mean Seth Warner's troops captured Crown Point. Warner was a militia officer from the Hampshire Grants, a Green Mountain Boy type who would also fight later at Bennington and with his brothers Henry and Heman be among the early settlers of Onondaga County - the hamlet of Warner's, New York, is named for them and they are buried there. I believe the Warners got their land as post-Revolutionary Bounty Rights. A number of their descendants, none named Warner, remain in the area, including my family. We have Warner's British Tower musket, the Brown Bess he carried through the Revolution. From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 7 12:33:37 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from VM.TEMPLE.EDU by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA21806; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:33:35 -0500 Received: from VM.TEMPLE.EDU by VM.TEMPLE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 4559; Tue, 07 Jan 97 12:34:15 EST Received: from VM.TEMPLE.EDU (NJE origin ALEXANDE@TEMPLEVM) by VM.TEMPLE.EDU (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 2861; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:12:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 97 12:07:37 EST From: "Robert E. Wright" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: TEMPLE UNIVERSITY Subject: Re: suffrage To: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:13:44 -0500 (EST) from <[log in to unmask]> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> content-length: 1096 Professor Kammen, FYI, New York dropped the property requirement for voting in local and state elections partially in the constitution of 1821 and completely a few years later. There is quite a bit of lit. about this and also about the debates in the constitutional convention re: black suffrage in N.Y. Blacks did vote legally in N.Y. under the first constitution if they met the property requirements. The requirements for voting for the assembly were lower than for those of the senate and governor. I don't have the citations on me, but can supply them if you like. Yours, Bob W. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | | | Dr. Robert E. Wright [log in to unmask] | | Biographical Dictionary http://www.temple.edu/history/ | Temple University 215-204-3406 | | | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 7 18:20:03 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from post3.inre.asu.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA24221; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:20:02 -0500 Received: from smtp1.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #7723) id <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 07 Jan 1997 16:20:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from general1.asu.edu (general1.asu.edu [129.219.10.145]) by smtp1.asu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA06004; Tue, 07 Jan 1997 16:20:24 -0700 Received: from general1.asu.edu (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by general1.asu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA22893; Tue, 07 Jan 1997 16:20:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 16:20:23 -0700 (MST) From: TJ Davis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: suffrage In-reply-to: <v03010001adbd61ed47b9@[132.236.102.68]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] To: carol kammen <[log in to unmask]> Cc: [log in to unmask] Message-id: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT content-length: 1518 Prof. Kammen: Susan B. Anthony's case in fact went to trial and is reported in part, in regard to a motion for a new trial, at _United States v. Anthony_, 24 F.Cas. 829 (C.C.N.D.N.Y. 1873) (No. 14,459), which is certainly available to you at the Cornell law school library. Cheers, Professor T. J. Davis, Ph.D., J.D. Department of History Arizona State University Box 872501 Tempe AZ 85287-2501 (602) 965-4931 (voice) (602) 965-0310 (facsimile) On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, carol kammen wrote: > Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 21:49:53 -0500 (EST) > From: carol kammen <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: suffrage > > In October of 1885, a "few" women attempted to vote in the > presidential election in Ithaca. The newspaper account states that they > did not succeed in depositing their ballots and nothing further is > mentioned of the episode. > > I know that in 1872 Susan B. Anthony attempted to vote in the > presidential election. She was stopped, arrested, and fined $100 which she > didn't pay and the county officials refused to press the matter thereby > preventing her from taking her case to a higher court. > > Are there other episodes of New York women attempting to vote > before being granted the right? > > In the nineteenth century, some women voted in school board > elections. Were those qualifications set by the state or by the various > counties? > > With appreciation for any examples any of you might have. > > Carol Kammen > [log in to unmask] > > > From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 8 11:56:12 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA27902; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:56:12 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 08 Jan 1997 11:53:02 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 11:55:48 -0500 From: James Folts <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: suffrage -Reply content-length: 1336 Re: Woman suffrage inquiry by Carol Kammen Laws of New York, 1880, Chapter 9, passed February 12, 1880, stated that "no person shall be deemed to be ineligible to serve as any school officer, or to vote at any school meeting, by reason of sex, who has the other qualifications now required by law." The act took effect immediately. The "other qualifications" referred to were the usual property and residency requirements (which I do not have readily available to me). Under this statute, women ran for the office of school trustee in union free and common school districts, and also for the then-elective office of Assembly District school commissioner (corresponds to present office of District Superintendent in the BOCES regions). The 1880 statute seems to have been widely publicized. In my home town of Cohocton, Steuben County, two women were elected to the school board of the union free school district in the school election held in the spring of 1880. Women ran for school board and for rural school district offices occasionally thereafter. However, in Cohocton most school district offices continued to be held by men. James D. Folts Head, Research Services New York State Archives Cultural Education Center Room 11D40 Albany, NY 12230 USA E-mail [log in to unmask] Phone (518) 474-8955; Fax (518) 473-9985 From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 8 12:07:14 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from holmes.alfred.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA28023; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 12:07:13 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: by bigvax.alfred.edu (MX V4.2 VAX) id 367; Wed, 08 Jan 1997 12:07:25 EDT Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 12:07:24 EST To: [log in to unmask] Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RE: suffrage content-length: 2139 The wife of Alfred University's president tried to vote in 1887. The following is the account as written in the book "An Offering to the memory of Abigail Ann Allen by the Ladies' Literary Societies of Alfred University" published after her death in 1902. "Mrs. Allen did not rest with theory or urge upon others duties she was not ready to assume, or plead for rights that she would not make sacrifice to secure. No one can forget those autumn days of '87 when every paper large or small heralded in head lines the news that 'Ten Women of Alfred voted and their votes were counted. The wife of President Allen The wife of President Allen at the head.' Some one on the ground should write of this for it was history in making. It seems the horriblecrime was perpetrated at a municipal election early in the autumn. The state and national election followed in November. Women were more and more demanding the ballot. Temperence women were especially active. The saloon was interested. Politicians were not indifferent. Ten women had been counted in at a municipal election. If legal at a local election, then what would occur in November? Verily there must be chastisement and that at once. Accordinglyu the officer was sent in quest of the offenders and papers were served. I suppose there has never been anything more amusing in all legal history or more ridiculous. Haste was the word. The trial must be held immediately to forestall further trouble. Cases of long standing, gray headed with years, were swept from the docket to make way. In a few days all was over - arrested, tried, convicted, sentenced, though the sentence as yet has not been served. I trust that some participant will leave a full record of that spasm of virtue that swept through Allegany office holders and spread to their kin throughout the state. Yet notwithstanding the swift punishment of these good women, over one hundred women in the state offered their ballot that fall and about fifty were counted in." Laurie L. McFadden Head of Special Collections Alfred University Alfred, NY (Allegany County) [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 8 15:49:46 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from alfredtech.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA29221; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:49:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199701082049.PAA29221@unix10> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:52 EST From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Subject: suffrage X-VMS-To: smtp%"[log in to unmask]" content-length: 584 RE women voting in Alfred, New Yor. There is record of one Lucy Barber voting in the village in 1886, the year before Mrs. Allen and 9 other ladies attempted it (as Laurie McFadden described). A newspaper article quotes an earlier one (no date of course) "...She was not to be argued with, for the account goes on to say that they allowed her to vote. She voted for congressional, assembly and county ticket...After considerable haggling, it was decided to allow Mrs. Barber to go free, because "she probably wouldn't do it again,"..." Sandra Scofield, Alfred Historical Society From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 8 17:00:27 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from is2.nyu.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA29523; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:00:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by is2.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA25003; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:00:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: David William Voorhees <[log in to unmask]> To: New York List <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Columbus Portrait, NY State Senate Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1799 I am seeking information regarding a portrait of Christopher Columbus given to the New York State Senate by Maria Farmer in 1784. According to George Howell and Jonathan Tenney, History of the County of Albany (New York, 1886), p. 448: "The old Senate Chamber is a very handsome room ... embellished with portraits of three distinguished men--Christopher Columbus, George Clinton and Stewart L. Woodward. The first of these was presented to the Senate, in 1784, by Maria Farmer, a descendant of the honest Jacob Leisler, once de facto Governor of New York, murdered by his enemies for high treason while guilty of no crime." Maria Farmer was the daughter of Mary Leisler (widow of Jacob Milborne) and Abraham Gouverneur, and granddaughter of Jacob Leisler, who had assumed the role of King William III's New York governor in 1689 and was executed for treason in 1691. Documentary evidence suggests that Jacob Leisler, his children and grandchildren, following contemporary Continental European patrician fashion trends, had extensive painting collections including works of Dutch, French, German, Italian and Spanish origins as well as curios from the East Indies and Africa. An 18th-century portrait of Columbus, if indeed it is a portrait of Columbus, is most unusual. I have been unable to discover the current whereabouts of the painting. Does anyone know if the painting is still in the possession of the state or, if not, its present location? Does any documentation exist relating to the painting? I'm also interested in learning about any work (books, articles, papers dissertations, etc.) that have been done on the collecting habits of wealthy New York City (Manhattan only) families in the 17th and early 18th centuries. David William Voorhees Papers of Jacob Leisler From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 8 18:25:21 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA29799; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:25:18 -0500 Received: from [132.236.102.97] (CU-DIALUP-0083.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.102.97]) by postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08990 for <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:25:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:25:49 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <v03010004adc278c8c105@[132.236.102.43]> In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: [log in to unmask] From: carol kammen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RE: suffrage content-length: 111 Laurie McFadden Thanks for such a lovely example. It would make Josiah Allen's wife proud! carol kammen From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 10:05:04 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from unix2.nysed.gov by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA02198; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:05:03 -0500 Received: from dos50.nysed.gov by unix2.nysed.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA15172; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:05:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:05:22 +0500 (EST) From: Barbara Lilley <[log in to unmask]> To: New York List <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Columbus Portrait, NY State Senate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> X-X-Sender: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 720 For information on paintings I would suggest contacting the Frick Art Reference Library if you have not already done so. The aim of the Library is to "gather photographs of paintings, drawings, and sculpture by leading European artists fromthe fourth century to the early decades fo the twentieth centruy, as wll as photographs of american art; to collate with each photograph the facts relating to the object's history and present location; and to create a comprehensive research library for the study of European and American art of the same period." The address is 10 East 71st Street, NY, NY the telephone number is 212-288-8700. Barbara Lilley Conservation/Preservation Program Officer New York State Library From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 13:49:43 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA03208; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:49:43 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Jan 1997 13:50:36 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 13:50:02 -0500 From: Phil Lord <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Lost Nation Forest content-length: 488 I have an inquiry from a resident in western New York about the derivation of the name "Lost Nation Forest" which is associated with a forested area in the northwestern corner of Allegany County, near the village of Centerville. He has one secondary source that conflicts with verbal tradition and is looking for an additional insights or information. I have checked the USGS geographic place name database and have come up empty. Any ideas? Phil Lord NYS Museum [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 15:05:44 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA03691; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:05:43 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:06:39 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:05:54 -0500 From: Phil Lord <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Missing Historic Markers content-length: 1953 Those of you who visited Albany in the not too distant past will recall the D-shaped park at the foot of State Street, at Broadway, in front of the old D&H Building. Here the city buses stopped to pick up passengers on the street that circulated around that park, and on the margins of that street stood seven State historic markers. When the street was eliminated to create a new landscaped area adjacent to the SUNY Central Administration building, the signs were removed, stored temporarily by DOT, and then turned over to the State Museum; at least we have five of the seven in our collections. If anyone has any knowledge of the missing three, let me know, as we would like to explore having them re-erected. I have listed all seven, because it is interesting to see the richness of the history that they expressed for that tiny area. General Burgoyne; over this road entered Albany with his staff after the Battle of Saratoga going to Schuyler Mansion as prisoners of War - 1777 [missing] Birthplace of American Union; near this site Benjamin Franklin presented the 1st formal plan of national union; Congress of 1754 Albany; called Fort Nassau 1614, Fort Orange 1624, Beverwyck 1652, Albany 1664; chartered 1686 [missing] Colonial warpath; rendezvous of troops in five wars. Here armies under Abercrombie, Loudoun and Amherst moved to the conquest of Canada 1756-60 Iroquois Treaty, August 1684; Basic peace by Gov. Dongan Gov. Howard of Va. and Five Nations at court house which stood 100 feet west Henry Hudson, explorer, here ended the voyage of the Half Moon in quest of the Indies September, 1609 Fort Orange; site of the West India Company Colony 1624. Here was born Sarah Rapelje, first white child in N.Y. State, 1625. Fort stood S.E. by the river. [missing] Clermont; near the foot of Madison Avenue Robert Fulton in Aug. 1807, completed the first successful steamboat voyage Philip Lord, Jr. NYS Museum [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 12:43:33 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA02894; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:43:32 -0500 Received: from [132.236.102.20] (CU-DIALUP-0006.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.102.20]) by postoffice2.mail.cornell.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21871 for <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:44:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:44:01 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <v03010001adc37a5851e3@[132.236.102.34]> In-Reply-To: <199701082049.PAA29221@unix10> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: [log in to unmask] From: carol kammen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: suffrage content-length: 126 Thanks to all of your for your interesting examples of NY women picking up their hats and going out to vote. carol kammen From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 14:35:26 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from unix2.nysed.gov by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA03495; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:35:25 -0500 Received: from test-1 by unix2.nysed.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA18383; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:35:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:35:47 +0500 (EST) From: Melinda Yates <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Columbus portrait X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Message-ID: <Pine.PCW.3.91.970109141101.10263B-100000-100000@test-1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1483 David William Voorhees recently inquired about a portrait of Columbus that was presented to New York State by Maria Farmer in 1784. There is an interesting discussion of this painting in volume 3, pp. 71-74 of John Boyd Thacher's CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS: HIS LIFE, HIS WORK, HIS REMAINS (New York: Putnam's Sons, 1904. At the time of the publication of Thacher's book, the portrait was in the possession of the State Library, then located in the Capitol. Thacher cannot identify the artist, but speculates that the portrait, from internal evidence, was painted over another portrait: "It is possible that some artist finding at his hand, one hundred years after the discovery, a portrait of Columbus, perhaps a copy of the De Bry, conceived the -- to him -- happy idea of representing Columbus as he himself imagined him, -- young, ardent, full of purpose, -- and then painted over the first picture a second and purely imaginative portrait of our hero." Thacher believes this second portrait was executed in 1592. He concludes: "Under any circumstances, as it represents a youth of twenty-three, it plainly belongs to the division of imaginative portraits." I do not know the whereabouts of the painting or how valid Thacher's speculations are. But I thought I would pass them on. Melinda Yates Senior Librarian NYS LIbrary From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 13:48:50 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from unix5.nysed.gov by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA03188; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:48:49 -0500 Received: from museum.nysed.gov (dos90.nysed.gov) by unix5.nysed.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21415; Thu, 9 Jan 97 13:58:09 EST Received: from MUSEUM/SpoolDir by museum.nysed.gov (Mercury 1.21); 9 Jan 97 13:49:25 EST Received: from SpoolDir by MUSEUM (Mercury 1.21); 9 Jan 97 13:49:04 EST From: "Ronald J. Burch" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: NYS Museum To: David William Voorhees <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask] Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:49:01 EDT Subject: Re: Columbus Portrait, NY State Senate Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.30 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> content-length: 576 I spoke with Andrea Lazarski of the Capitol Commission who found nothing in her current inventory. Subsequently I unearthed in my files a copy of an April, 1890, inventory of paintings, etc., "in custody of the New York State Library," which included a framed oil portrait of "Columbus." Most probably the painting was destroyed in the 1911 Library fire. I have a query in to the Library (Special Collections) to see if it might still be around (they're on this net, by the way). For a really long shot you could try the Albany Institute of History and Art, 518-463-4478. From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 16:30:00 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA04323; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:29:59 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:30:54 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:27:24 -0500 From: Bob Arnold <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Missing Historic Markers -Reply content-length: 628 Phil: It may be that these were lost in one retooling of the park or another, most likely when the D&H/Albany Evening Journal Building complex was taken by the State University for office space. However, when I worked for now-Assemblyman McEneny in my early career with the City of Albany (his early career, too), Jack had at least one bronze plaque from a marker displayed in his office. I'm afraid I don't recall which it was, or from where, and it may be that he ultimately transferred it to the Albany Institute. I suggest talking to Jack McEneny or to Norman Rice - Norman's a monument buff and may recall these things. From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 16:44:13 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA04617; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:44:12 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA13082 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:44:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:44:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Missing 1929 Stoplights content-length: 521 For a newspaper article, I am writing about the bronze traffic lights designed by Joseph H. Freedlander in 1929 and placed on Fifth Avenue in 1930. They were four-faced (red and green lenses only), with art deco-type detailing and a figure of Hermes on top. These traffic lights were removed in 1964, but only two of the Hermes figures (out of about 60) have been located, one at the Museum of the City of New York and one at the Fifth Avenue Association. Does any subscriber know of others? Christopher Gray From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 18:11:30 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from post4.inre.asu.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA05026; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:11:29 -0500 Received: from general5.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #7723) id <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:11:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from general5.asu.edu (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by general5.asu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA20397; Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:11:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:11:53 -0700 (MST) From: TJ Davis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: suffrage In-reply-to: <199701082049.PAA29221@unix10> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Message-id: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT content-length: 931 Having the citation to the "record" referenced and to the "newspaper article" and location of same presently would be helpful. Cheers, TJD On Wed, 8 Jan 1997 [log in to unmask] wrote: > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 15:52 -0500 (EST) > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: suffrage > > RE women voting in Alfred, New Yor. There is record of one Lucy > Barber voting in the village in 1886, the year before Mrs. Allen > and 9 other ladies attempted it (as Laurie McFadden described). > A newspaper article quotes an earlier one (no date of course) > "...She was not to be argued with, for the account goes on to > say that they allowed her to vote. She voted for congressional, > assembly and county ticket...After considerable haggling, it > was decided to allow Mrs. Barber to go free, because "she > probably wouldn't do it again,"..." > Sandra Scofield, Alfred Historical Society > > From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 9 19:52:12 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA05329; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:52:11 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA11291 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:52:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:52:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Missing Historic Markers content-length: 1282 Mr. Lord, Had an interesting experience looking for one of the markers missing here in Williamson several years ago. One of the markers had been missing for several years. I told my seventh grade students that there would be "extra credit" given to anyone who could play detective and locate the sign. I didn't hold out much hope, but with a hundred or so busy little mind working one never knows. About 10:30 that evening I got a call from the County Highway Superintendent, (no one I knew), and he asked me to, "call off the dogs." It seems that several of the students had come up with the idea that he might know as the sign was missing from a county highway. He did. He had it in the county highway barns where it had been since a snow plow knocked it down. (One of those things you were going to replace some day when spare time was available). He promised that if didn't get any more phone calls that he would have it delivered to my school the next day. Good to his word, the next day it arrived! The sign, now repainted and replaced, WELL back from the highway, is something these students can be proud of. Do you have and budding sleuths in the local schools? Les Buell Social Studies Teacher Williamson Middle School Miller Street Williamson, New York From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 10 09:13:02 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from alfredtech.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA07028; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:13:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199701101413.JAA07028@unix10> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:15 EST From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Subject: citations X-VMS-To: smtp%"[log in to unmask]" content-length: 364 There are a number of references to Lucy Barber's attempt to vote in the Western New York Historical located at Hinkle Library Alfred State College. Most of the references are undated. There is an article on the Allen trial in the Alfred Sun 12-1-1887, p.2 that mentions Lucy Barber's attempts to vote the year before. Sandra Scofield, Alfred Historical Society From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 10 11:34:24 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from sparc1.glen-net.ca by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA07668; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:33:36 -0500 Received: from x127glen.glen-net.ca (x127glen.glen-net.ca [205.189.134.127]) by sparc1.glen-net.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA03579 for <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:30:25 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:30:25 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 2 (High) To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (David G Anderson) Subject: Illario Panzzinone?, New York, church artist c1900 X-Mailer: <Windows Eudora Version 1.4.2b16> content-length: 678 At the turn of the century in New York there was a firm of church decorators & mural painters founded by one ILLARIO PANZZINONE (or a similar sound -- apologies to Italians) who was said to have apprenticed at the Vatican. This firm twice before WWI did large murals in the interior of our St Mary's Roman Catholic Church in Williamstown, Ontario. We wish to get more information on the firm and their works. (And not the least of our desire is to spell their name correctly.) David G Anderson <[log in to unmask]> Glengarry Historical Society - 1784 Williamstown, Ontario, Canada K0C 2J0 _____________________________________ From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 13 15:17:58 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mail1.eznet.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA16926; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:17:56 -0500 Received: from [207.50.129.35] (dialup25.roc-tc1.eznet.net [207.50.129.35]) by mail1.eznet.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA23140; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:16:32 -0500 Message-Id: <v03007800aefd5f2a02ee@[207.50.129.72]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:17:37 -0500 To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] From: David Minor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: NYNY 1780-1784 content-length: 8477 <fontfamily><param>Geneva</param><smaller>1780 Jan 29 =09 A record five-week cold spell bottoms out at -20=B0 at Hartford, Connecticut, and 16=B0 in New York City. New York's harbor is frozen over. =46eb 1 =09 New York State cedes all of its western lands to Congress. <bold> </bold>May =09 Loyalist John Cumming and his family arrive in New York City from the northern part of the colony, to take ship for Scotland. Jun 8 =09 Sir Henry Clinton returns to New York, leaving General Cornwallis in charge of the southern campaign. Aug 3 =09 Washington gives Benedict Arnold the command at West Point. Sep 23 =09 Major John Andr=E9 is captured in Tarrytown, revealing Arnold's plot to surrender West Point to the British. Sep 25 =09 Arnold narrowly escapes capture, on the British ship <italic>Vulture</italic>.=20 Sep 30 =09 Major Andr=E9 is hanged by the rebels as a spy in Tappan. <bold> </bold>December=09 James Whitelaw writes to his sponsor, the Scots American Company of =46armers recommending they liquidate their holdings in Ryegate, Vermont. =20 State George Washington's Newburgh headquarters, the Jonathan Hasbrouck House, is demolished. ** British forces under Sir John Johnson and Joseph Brant attack the settlement at Schoharie, are beaten off. =20 ** Indians settle in the area of the future Buffalo. ** The Council House at Caneadea is built by British troops from Fort Niagara for the Seneca. ** Joseph Brant and his prisoner Captain Alexander Harper pass through the Genesee Valley on their way from Schoharie to Niagara. 1781 Mar 1 =09 New York presents its western lands to Congress, which uses them to provide Pennsylvania with a corridor to Lake Erie. May =09 58 Scots immigrants petition Governor Clinton for permission to return to Scotland. He refuses permission. Aug 3 =09 A Ryegate general meeting decides to begin the liquidation of the Scots American Company's holdings. Aug 12 =09 Rochambeau breaks camp at Newport, Rhode Island, and sets out to join Washington in White Plains. Aug 20 =09 Congress orders New York State to relinquish her claims to present-day Vermont. Aug 21 =09 Washington leads Clinton to believe that New York City will be attacked, then moves toward Philadelphia and later to Virginia. Sep 9 =09 A second French fleet arrives off the Chesapeake. Admiral Graves takes his fleet toward New York. Oct 19 =09 Cornwallis and his 17,000 troops surrender at Yorktown, Virginia. Oct 24 =09 Washington wants to attack New York, but the French want to leave American waters. City Some of the city's municipal records, sequestered aboard the armed ship <italic>Duchess of Gordon</italic> in 1775, are returned to the city. State Cornplanter, Red Jacket and Handsome Lake help Johnson massacre Mohawk Valley settlers. 1782 Apr 3 =09 Washington Irving is born in New York City. Apr 16 =09 George Washington establishes his headquarters at Newburgh. <bold>June</bold> =09 The 4th Massachuetts Regiment of Foot, with Private Shurtleff (a disguised Deborah Sampson), leaves Worcester, Massachusetts, to march to West Point, New York. Oct 29 =09 Congress accepts New York State's western lands. Dec 5=09 Martin Van Buren is born in Kinderhook. 1783 Jan 6 =09 Officers at Newburgh petition Congress for back pay. Jan 14 =09 General William Alexander, Lord Stirling, dies in Albany. Mar 10 =09 Anonymous U. S. officers issue the Newburgh Addresses, threatening to mutiny if they don't begin receiving back pay. Mar 11 =09 Washington forbids meetings of discontented officers at Newburgh. Mar 12 =09 The officers reassert the validity of their claims. Washington condemns the tone of the Newburgh Addresses. Mar 15 =09 Washington, recognizing the validity of their arguments, urges dissatisfied army officers to trust in Congress to see that they are paid. Mar 16 =09 General Greene expresses the fear that discontent may spread to southern officers. Mar 22 =09 Congress votes officer compensation. Mar 30 =09 Washington advises the Newburgh officers of Congress' favorable decision.=20 Apr 16 =09 General Jedediah Huntington recommends a military academy at West Point. Apr 23 =09 British general Sir Guy Carleton requests Congress' aid in evacuating New York City. Apr 24 =09 Congress appoints three commissioners to aid Carleton. Apr 26 =09 7,000 Loyalists leave New York City for Canada and Europe. May 9 =09 The first British prisoners are released, in New York City. May 13 =09 Commissioned army officers, including general Henry Knox, organize the Society of Cincinnati, at Newburgh. May 22 =09 A skirmish between British and U. S. ships in New York Harbor is narrowly averted. Jun 13 =09 Washington disbands his army, at Newburgh. Jul 21 =09 The British 7th Regiment stages a ceremonial review in New York City. Aug 21 =09 The deadline for Loyalists to receive permission to evacuate New York. Sep 3 =09 Great Britain and the U. S. sign the peace treaty in Paris. Great Britain signs a peace treaty with France and Spain, at Versailles, ceding Florida to Spain. Spain returns the Bahamas to England. France returns Minorca and Montserrat, in the Leeward Islands, to Great Britain, which also receives Saint Kitts-Nevis. The northern boundary of New York State is confirmed as the 45th paralell. Great Lakes boundary lines are set. Great Britain cedes most of the Alabama and Wisconsin areas to the United States. Britain and the U. S. receive navigation rights on the Mississippi River. Sep 29 =09 A band of arsonists is discovered trying to torch several New York City buildings. Oct 8 =09 George Washington asks Congress to limit the West Point garrison to 500 troops. Oct 14 =09 Governor George Clinton expresses impatience with delays in the final treaty. <bold>November</bold>=09 The <italic>Peggy</italic> sails out of Staten Island for Nova Scotia, with many ex-slaves aboard. Nov 20 =09 Washington announces the formal discharge of enlisted men at Newburgh. Nov 21 =09 The British complete their withdrawal from northern Manhattan. Nov 24 =09 Washington meets with General Carleton to finalize New York evacuation plans. Nov 25 =09 The final regiments of the British army leave New York City. Nov 30 =09 A small, loud earthquake strikes New York City. Dec 2 =09 A fireworks display is held in New York City. Dec 3 =09 The New York <italic>Gazetteer </italic>begins publication. Dec 4 =09 Washington bids farewell to his officers at Fraunces Tavern in New York City. ** The British evacuate Long Island and Staten Island. State Andrew Brock becomes assessor for Ryegate. Whitelaw is named deputy to Vermont's surveyor general and quits his post as Ryegate's assessor. =20 ** Quaker merchants found the town of Hudson. ** The town of Veedersburg (Amsterdam) is founded. Geography New York and Massachusetts appoint commissions to settle the final boundary between them, but no consensus is reached. 1784 =46eb 22=09 The <italic>Empress of China</italic> sails from New York City, seeking to open trade with China. March =09 John Jacob Astor lands in New York City from Germany, with seven flutes to trade. Mar 15 =09 The Bank of New York is organized. Jun 9 =09 The Bank of New York opens, in New York City. Aug 26 =09 Albany's Lutheran church is reorganized. Oct 5 =09 Dr. John Henry Livingston is appointed professor of theology by the Dutch Reformed Church Synod, establishing the first theological seminary in America, in New York City. Oct 22 =09 The Six Nations of the Iroquois sign the Second Treaty of Fort Stanwyx, surrender all claims to the Northwest territory. City The city becomes the capital of New York State. Colonial public records are moved here from Poughkeepsie. ** Lawyer James Duane, just out of Congress, is appointed mayor for each of the next five one-year terms. State - The legislature moves to New York City. It recommends a plan by Christopher Colles for improving Mohawk River navigation. ** The University of the State of New York is formed. ** A Mrs. Farmer, grand-daughter of Dutch governor Jacob Leisler, donates portraits of Christopher Columbusn, to be hung in Albany's State House.</smaller></fontfamily> David Minor Eagles Byte Historical Research Rochester, New York 716 264-0423 http://home.eznet.net/~dminor From [log in to unmask] Sun Jan 12 14:32:22 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA14076; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:32:21 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA27650 for [log in to unmask]; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:32:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:32:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: NY poor house question content-length: 1620 I am working with poor house records from Washington Co., NY. They are very interesting and certainly not politcally correct with their descriptions of the cause for admission. They use terms such as lazy, ugly, bad character, simple, lunacy, etc. Also used are cripple, lameness, sickness, pregnant, old age, etc. The term most often used is intemperance or intemperate. Now, to me, that would indicate the person had some sort of drinking problem. However, when you read through several pages, you will find the term intemperance used as much as 60% of the time. I can't imagine that all these people truly had the problem of intemperance. My question is this--were the people interviewed upon entering the poor house and were they asked if they drank alcohol? Could it be that they just said yes, they drank (never saying how much) and because they said yes, they were put down as "intemperate?" A few individuals have the cause for admission entered as "drunk." As I read through, some of these names appear over and over again and it seems as though they are the people with REAL drinking problems. I just wonder about what seems to be an excessive use of the term intemperance. Does anyone know if people were asked this question on admission? I would like to find out if others have run across this term used on such a frequent basis. I'm also interested in general information on the background of the poor house in NY. Any suggestions as to where I can get that info? I have been in contact with Wash. Co. and have info on the specific poor house there. Laura Hulslander [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 10 18:14:03 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from x7.boston.juno.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA09134; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:14:02 -0500 Received: (from [log in to unmask]) by x7.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ScP25832; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:12:41 EST To: [log in to unmask] Subject: American Revolution Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,4-7 From: [log in to unmask] (Ruth E Hesterly) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:12:41 EST content-length: 272 Hello, Can anyone please let me know some good sources to brush up on the 1770-1800 period, especially the Revolution itself. I am looking for anything and everything. Video, audio, internet, printed, etc. Thank you for your help. Ruth Hesterly [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 14 12:04:11 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA19685; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:04:10 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:08:03 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:00:39 -0500 From: Julie Daniels <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: NYS Archives Student Research Awards content-length: 3743 STUDENT RESEARCH AWARDS AVAILABLE FROM STATE ARCHIVES The New York State Archives and Records Administration announces its seventh annual Student Research Awards to promote and recognize excellence in student research. The purpose of the award is to encourage New York State's students to explore the wealth of historical records found in archives, libraries, businesses, community organizations, local governments (e.g., schools, towns, counties, etc.), historical societies, families, and individuals throughout the State. There are two awards: one for a student or group of students grades 6-8, and one for a student or group of students grades 9-12. All student research award entries must be the result of student research using historical records. Some examples of historical records are: ? Personal papers, such as original letters, diaries, journals, photographs, and drawings ? Business records, such as ledgers, correspondence and advertisements ? Local government records, such as minutes of board meetings, tax assessment maps, engineering and highway records, police and court records, and school district records ? Community organization records, such as church membership, financial and social action records and ? State and national records including census records, vital records, property records, wills and probate records. The product of the research may be a traditional research paper; an exhibit; an audiovisual production; a performance; a work of fiction or drama; a proposal for designation of a historic marker, property or district; or a document packet or other curriculum material for future use by students and teachers. Research products prepared for other competitions, e.g., History Day, will be eligible if they meet other relevant criteria, especially use of historical records. Each award includes a certificate and a cash prize, which represents the income from a fund established by a donation from a former member of the Board of Regents. Certificates of Merit will be awarded to those entries, other than the winners, that demonstrate a substantial reliance on historical records to support their research. Last year's winners in the 6-8 category were from Holland Patent Central School Distirct. They used historical records from the Town of Trenton Planning Board, Holland Patent Free Library Archives, Utica Gas and Electric Company, Oneida County Home News, and the Town of Trenton, interviews, paintings, and secondary sources to place a modern controversy in historical context. The students produced a video documenting Trenton Falls, from its nineteenth century heyday as a tourist attraction and the 1902 construction of a power plant, to the present-day controversy to open Trenton Falls to the public as a Town park. In the 9-12 category, last year's winner was from Clyde-Savannah Central School Distirct. The student used historical records from the New York State Department of Conservation, New York State Nonpoint Source Coordinating Committee, Wayne County Public Information Office, and Wayne County Soil and Water Conservation District, personal interviews, and secondary sources to provide an extensive, well-written overview of the water quality issues in Wayne County. Applications must be postmarked on or before June 1, 1997. The awards will be announced during New York Archives Week, October, 1997. For more information, and to receive a copy of the award guidelines and an application, call or write as follows: Julie Daniels Student Research Awards State Archives and Records Administration 10A46 Cultural Education Center Albany, NY 12230 518-473-8037. [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 14 12:09:41 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA19715; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:09:40 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:13:33 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:06:39 -0500 From: Phil Lord <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] Subject: American Revolution -Reply content-length: 282 I would start with the Internet, and "American and British History Resources on the Internet at http://www.libraries.rutgers.edu/rulib/artshum/amhist.html The links found here will keep you busy for months, and should serve the purpose. Phil Lord NYS Museum [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 14 13:18:18 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from pppmail.appliedtheory.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA19985; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:18:17 -0500 Received: from SBH.nyser.net by pppmail.appliedtheory.com (8.6.12/3.1.090690-Applied Theory Communications) id NAA13332; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:22:26 -0500 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:16:41 -0500 From: "Robert V. Shear" <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Organization: Syracuse Behavioral Healthcare (http://www.SBH.org) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Douglass Web Project Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1E325AB652E0" content-length: 3636 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1E325AB652E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope this isn't a duplicate for many people. I'm forwarding an announcement about the Douglass Web Project, which documents political speeches of historical significance. It's also beautifully presented as a web site. It's worth a visit. Bob Shear --------------1E325AB652E0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from profile0.appliedweb.com by pppmail.appliedtheory.com (8.6.12/3.1.090690-Applied Theory Communications) id KAA07775; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:19:09 -0500 Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu (merle.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.57]) by profile0.appliedweb.com (8.8.3/8.7.5) with ESMTP id KAA28529 for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from DOETTING (xyp76p12.ltec.net) by merle.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA297044933; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:15:33 -0600 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> From: Douglass Web Project <[log in to unmask]> To: Bob Shear <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:18:18 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: NetMailer v1.03 [D.R-D4FC6958BFA4020122B] Subject: Douglass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ================================================== Message Contents: 1. Introduction to Douglass, new URL 2. Inaugural addresses 3. New speeches *** 4. Web Competition: Last Day of Voting is January 15. *** 5. Awards ================================================== 1. Greetings, Bob. Douglass is a Web site dedicated to archiving significant speeches in American history -- feel free to pass this message along to others who might be interested in visiting the site. Our URL (Internet address) has changed recently. Earlier this month the site was transferred to a new address on one of Northwestern University's servers. (We're glad that it's an URL that people will have a chance of remembering.) Please visit the new address and place Douglass among your list of Web bookmarks: http://douglass.speech.nwu.edu/ 2. Anticipating President Clinton's inauguration on Jan. 20, the "Douglass Delivers" section of the home page now contains links some of the more remarkable inaugural addresses from past U.S. presidents. Did your favorites make the list? 3. Ten new texts will be placed online in the next two weeks. Most will be from the the period between the Civil War and WWI (from T. Roosevelt, Andrew Carnegie, and Eugene Debs, to name a few) 4. Douglass needs your vote . . . today (or tomorrow)! The site was nominated in December as one of 1996's best social science and humanities web resources. It's nice to be on the list, but to stand a chance Douglass needs your vote -- January 15th is the last day of the competition. Follow the link from Douglass' guest book page to add your vote -- it only takes a minute. 5. Awards and Recognition: December was a great month for awards. A dozen entities recognized Douglass in one way or another. Several of the Web sites that have recognized Douglass are worth visiting themselves. Links can be found on the guest book page. ============================================ To help keep our mailing list up to date, please send e-mail address changes, deletions from the list, or additions to the address below. Thanks. Dan Oetting, Editor [log in to unmask] Douglass: Archives of American Public Address http://douglass.speech.nwu.edu/ --------------1E325AB652E0-- From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 14 16:21:13 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from vais.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA20677; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:21:12 -0500 Received: from Pcentaur by vais.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0vkGIT-000PWgC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 16:21 EST Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:21:31 -0500 To: [log in to unmask] From: David Mantione <[log in to unmask]> content-length: 681 Hello Everyone, Was wondering if there's anyone who has some ideas for a little investigation I'm on of an incident with my Great Grandfather in 1898/early 1899. While working on a job associated with a quarry in Mount Vernon, NY, my G Grandfather, Pietrangelo Iorio, was the victim of a fatal accident where a horse drawn truck load of stone and gravel tipped over on him. Any thoughts as to whether this type of incident of death might be in a local trade/company newsletter or newspaper in Mount Vernon at that time?? He was the first death in the States for my maternal lineage and I don't know where to begin. Thanks so much in advance, David Mantione [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 15 22:59:27 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA25754; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:59:25 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA15067 for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:59:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:59:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: NY poor house question content-length: 244 Laura- The Albany County Hall of Records [250 South Pearl Street Albany NY 12202, 518-447-4500] has many of the records of the city Alms house in their SARA collection. Everything from construction documents to grocery lists! Walter Wheeler From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 16 14:13:46 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA27534; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:13:45 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA04824 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:14:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:14:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: stoneyard death - reply content-length: 271 It doesn't appear in the index to the New York Times, but try the New York Tribune (annual indices, 1875-1906) - they loved gory stuff, even it was out of town. The trade journal I know, Stone, does not seem to carry material like that - too downbeat. Christopher Gray From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 16 16:54:39 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from vais.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA28182; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:54:38 -0500 Received: from Pcentaur by vais.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0vkzm7-000PWyC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 16:55 EST Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:55:08 -0500 To: [log in to unmask] From: David Mantione <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: stoneyard death - reply content-length: 466 Christopher, Thanks so much for your interest and Your research suggestion.. I'll track it down and hopefully strike gold. Regards, David At 02:14 PM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >It doesn't appear in the index to the New York Times, but try the New York >Tribune (annual indices, 1875-1906) - they loved gory stuff, even it was out >of town. > >The trade journal I know, Stone, does not seem to carry material like that - >too downbeat. > >Christopher Gray > > From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 16 17:22:56 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA28278; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:22:54 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA20433 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:23:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:23:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: No Subject content-length: 83 I'M NOT TRYING TO BE SMART,BUT I'D TRY WHERE HE'S BURIED. OR THE PASSINGER LISTS. From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 16 20:18:18 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from T-Rex.Minn.Net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA28773; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:18:17 -0500 Received: from dialup-45.Minn.Net (dialup-165.Minn.Net [204.157.201.165]) by T-Rex.Minn.Net (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA13144 for <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:18:34 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:18:34 -0600 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: [log in to unmask] From: Bob Cook <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Old NYC Newspapers content-length: 1027 Hi! I wonder if someone could help me find out how to find out what New York City newspapers exist on microfilm or other media. I see references to them but have no idea of how I might access them or get information from them. My great grandfather, Patrick DILLON, a dockworker, was drowned in the East River, Pier 47, on July 15, 1874. The coroner's report of July 19, 1874 states thatthe cause of death was drowning and also states "Inquest Pending". The occupation is listed as "Labourer", however, family tradition has him as a dockworker - possibly only a matter of semantics. Cemetery records show the date of burial as July 19, 1874, the same date as the coroner's report. Given the "Inquest Pending" notation, I am wondering if there may be more to his death that can be learned. Being that he was an Irish immigrant, the possibility of more than fall into the river might be involved. Does Pier 47 still exist? Where is/was it? Thank you for any assistance you might be able to give. Bob Cook [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 16 20:56:39 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA29164; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:56:38 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA08499 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:57:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:57:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: No Subject content-length: 141 I would think that something like that would certainly have made the local papers. Check the papers in Mount Vernon as a place to begin. Les From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 17 10:18:59 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from piglet.INS.CWRU.Edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00640; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:18:58 -0500 Received: (fc526@localhost) by piglet.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.7.6+cwru/CWRU-2.3-bsdi) id KAA28221; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:19:40 -0500 (EST) (from fc526) Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:19:40 -0500 (EST) From: [log in to unmask] (David L. Bly) To: [log in to unmask] Subject: ROCKEFELLER RECORDS Reply-To: [log in to unmask] (David L. Bly) content-length: 315 Can anyone advise if there exists a repository for the personal records of JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER? My GGrandmother migrated to the U.S. in 1869 and is shown as a live-in maid in the home of J.D. ROCKEFELLER in the 1870 census and I am interested in personal records/photos, etc. David Bly [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 17 11:22:09 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA01548; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:22:08 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:24:17 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:22:26 -0500 From: Vicki Weiss <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Old NYC Newspapers -Reply content-length: 1905 Bob - Information on the microfilmed newspaper holdings for communities across New York State, including New York City, that are held by the New York State Library in Albany is available at the New York State Newspaper Project's home page, the address for which is http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp The State Library has quite a collection of New York City tites and all NYS Library newspaper microfilm (except for the New York Times, which is available at many, many libraries around the country) can be borrowed through interlibrary loan. Check with your local library for information on how to do this. There is a paper index to the New York Times from the 1860s on. Most major libraries would have a copy of this. However, I've found the Times was not always the most comprehensive as I wanted. I've often preferred using the New York Tribune, the New York Herald, the New York Sun, the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, etc. But you never know. I've used a print copy of the microfilmed holdings of the New York Public Library at the library but I don't believe that it is online, although NYPL's catalog is and maybe the newspapers they have are listed there. I don't know; you'd have to connect to the catalog through the NYPL web site or telnet. Now for the ad: This year the New York State Newspaper Project is celebrating ten years of looking for, cataloging and microfilming newspapers from villages, towns and cities across the state before the history contained on their pages crumbles to dust. Sometime this spring or early summer, the project will film its one millionth page! To join the Friends of the NYS Newspaper Project, an organization founded to raise money to microfilm as many pages of history as possible, drop me a note via e-mail. Every dollar donated saves two-and-a-half pages of newspaper history. Vicki Weiss President, Friends of the NYS Newspaper Project [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 17 12:41:46 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from utkux.utcc.utk.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA02161; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:41:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by utkux.utcc.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK.UTCC) id AA20389; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:40:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:40:30 -0500 (EST) From: Milton M Klein <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] To: "David L. Bly" <[log in to unmask]> Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: ROCKEFELLER RECORDS In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 426 Try the Rockefeller Archives in Tarrytown, N.Y. On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, David L. Bly wrote: > Can anyone advise if there exists a repository for the personal > records of JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER? > My GGrandmother migrated to the U.S. in 1869 and is shown as a > live-in maid in the home of J.D. ROCKEFELLER in the 1870 census > and I am interested in personal records/photos, etc. > > David Bly [log in to unmask] > From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 17 15:13:26 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from under.mhv.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA02965; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:13:25 -0500 Received: from [205.161.119.65] (ulster-port45.mhv.net) by under.mhv.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24399; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:14:12 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: N. Amsterdam Dutch Council Records Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 14:56:28 -0500 From: "Frederick E. Smith" <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 content-length: 521 -- [ From: Frederick E. Smith * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Hi, I am interested in doing research in the early Dutch Council (Governor's Council) records of New Amsterdam, (circa) pre 1647. This was the earliest court in the colony and the court of original jusrisdiction for all cases I believe. I have heard that published minutes exist. Are they available at either NYS Library or NYS Archives. Also, do original records exist and if so where are they held. Thanks in advance for your comments. Sincerely, Rick Smith From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 17 17:25:29 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from m2.boston.juno.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA03959; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:25:27 -0500 Received: (from [log in to unmask]) by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PZG14060; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:04:17 EST To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Old NYC Newspapers Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> References: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-11,13-24,31-33,35,37-40 From: [log in to unmask] (Joseph A Arlt) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:04:17 EST content-length: 1586 On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:18:34 -0600 Bob Cook <[log in to unmask]> writes: >Hi! > >I wonder if someone could help me find out how to find out what New >York >City newspapers exist on microfilm or other media. I see references to >them >but have no idea of how I might access them or get information from >them. > My local library has the New York Times on microfilm....Your library could probably help to find out what's available. >My great grandfather, Patrick DILLON, a dockworker, was drowned in the >East >River, Pier 47, on July 15, 1874. The coroner's report of July 19, >1874 >states thatthe cause of death was drowning and also states "Inquest >Pending". The occupation is listed as "Labourer", however, family >tradition >has him as a dockworker - possibly only a matter of semantics. > The East River separates Brooklyn from Manhattan. The Brooklyn bridge goes over the East River for example. I don't know how the numbers go or if the pier is on the Manhattan or Brooklyn side of the river. If I remember correctly, the Fulton Fish Market area lower East side of Manhattan has been redeveloped into shops and I think the pier number at that location is 102. Just from memory though and you know how that is as you get older. >From Joe Arlt [log in to unmask] Compulsive Genealogy Searcher........ Researching German, Irish, Italian from New York: The Boroughs, Ulster, Sullivan & Dutchess Counties. Especially looking for ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, FALANGA, GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, WAGNER Yesterday and Today are Tomorrow's history From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 17 18:09:21 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from epix.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA04063; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:09:20 -0500 Received: from art77.epix.net (svcr-84ppp117.epix.net [199.224.84.117]) by epix.net (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id SAA17555 for <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:07:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:07:04 -0800 From: Art Prutzman <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Artco X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Old NYC Newspapers References: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 342 Bob Cook wrote: Given the "Inquest Pending" notation, I am wondering > if there may be more to his death that can be learned. Being that he was an > Irish immigrant, the possibility of more than fall into the river might be > involved. Even if he was inebriated and fell in, the NYC officials might have still had him listed that way. Art From [log in to unmask] Sat Jan 18 02:48:48 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA05492; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:48:47 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA15900 for [log in to unmask]; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:49:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:49:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Old NYC Newspapers content-length: 707 If I may address myself to the question concerning the location of East River Pier 47. You did specify the East River because there was also a North River (Hudson) Pier 47. It was between Jefferson and Clinton St. on NYC's lower East Side. It was above the Brooklyn Bridge and the Manhattan Bridge. My current map shows that Jefferson no longer intersects South St. (the street that runs along the East River) . A housing project has been built across it (the La Guardia Houses). None-the-less on a current NYC street map you can see where Jefferson used to met South St. Pier 47 was about 3 blocks above the Manhattan Bridge and according to my maps it no longer exists. Jim Maguire From [log in to unmask] Sat Jan 18 19:30:34 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06428; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:30:33 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA18589 for [log in to unmask]; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:31:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:31:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: 39th Precinct? content-length: 312 I had a GGrandmother who was arrested for vagrancy and was taken to the 39th Precinct on White Plains ave. I'm trying to locate any blotters that may have remained from the 39th Precinct (1900 to 1910 period). Also... what happened to the 39th precinct, did it merge with another precinct. anyone? anyone? From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 20 22:58:44 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mail1.eznet.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA09822; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:58:43 -0500 Received: from [207.50.129.58] (dialup48.roc-tc1.eznet.net [207.50.129.58]) by mail1.eznet.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA31774; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:57:25 -0500 X-Sender: [log in to unmask] (Unverified) Message-Id: <v03007800af094d47696e@[207.50.129.142]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:33:33 -0500 To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] From: David Minor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: NYNY 1785-1789 content-length: 8212 <bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1785</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><= param>Geneva</param> Jan 11 =09 Congress begins convening in New York City. April =09 Christopher Colles receives $125 to implement his Mohawk River canal plan. He publishes his proposals. Dec 2 =09 Congress appoints John Ewing, Thomas Hutchins and David Rittenhouse to survey the final New York-Massachusetts boundary. Canals Silas Deane drums up support for a Lake Champlain-St. Lawrence Canal. State New York City businessman Lumen Reed is born. ** Geneva is founded on the site of an Indian village. ** A survey of the New York-Pennsylvania state line is begun. ** Former Seneca captive Horatio Jones (Handsome Boy) marries a woman from Schenectady and moves to Waterloo. ** The first burial at the Watervliet Shaker colony near Albany is performed. Ships The Hudson River sloop <italic>Experiment, </italic>commanded by Stewart Dean, makes a trading voyage from Albany to Canton, China, the second U. S vessel to trade with China. =20 Slavery John Jay and Alexander Hamilton organize the New York City Manumission Society.=20 <bold>1786</bold> Sep 11 =09 The Annapolis Convention meets with Virginia, Delaware, New York, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey represented, to discuss commerce. Oct 12 =09 New York's James Clinton and Simeon DeWitt, and Pennsylvania's Andrew Elliott, certify the survey that established the New York-Pennsylvania state line, completed earlier in the year. Dec 16 =09 Meeting at Hartford, Connecticut, New York State commissioners Egbert Benson, James Duane, John Haring, Robert R. Livingston, Melancthion Smith and Robert Yates, and Massachusetts commissioners Rufus King, John Lowell, Theophilus Parsons and James Sullivan, settle the latter state's claim to New York lands. New York divides the Iroquois lands with Massachusetts, which gets the land, while New York gets political sovereignty. The area known as the Boston Ten Towns is retained by Masachusetts. Syracuse Trader-interpreter Ephraim Webster, along with Benjamin Newkirk, arrives from Schenectady and establish a trading post among the Onondaga Indians on the east bank of Onondaga Creek, near Onondaga Lake. State The state defeats a congressional appeal for import duty powers. ** =20 Israel Stone build's Pittsford's first house. ** Columbia County is created from part of Albany County. ** Trader-interpreter Ephraim Webster settles among the Onondaga Indians. ** A son is born to Horatio and Sarah Whitmore Jones, the first white child born west of Utica. ** The approximate date followers of Jemima Wilkinson hire Abraham Dayton, Thomas Hathaway and Richard Smith to travel to Yates County to scout a site for a New Jerusalem. </fontfamily> <bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1787</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><= param>Geneva</param> Apr 16 =09 Boston playwright Royall Tyler's <italic>The Contrast</italic> is performed at New York City's John Street Theatre, the first professional performance of a comedy in America. May =09 Claxton & Babcock begin publishing Troy's weekly <italic>Northern Centinel & Lansingburgh Advertiser.</italic>=20 Jul 5 =09 Manasseh Cutler arrives in New York City, talks of buying millions of acres of land on the Ohio River for the Ohio Company. Sep 17 =09 The U. S. Constitution, in a final draft by Gouverneur Morris, is signed by delegates in Philadelphia, who then resolve to forward it to Congress in New York City. Sep 24 =09 New York City's <italic>Daily Advertiser</italic> prints <italic>A Revolution Effected by Good Sense and Deliberation</italic>, the first known original commentary on the Constitution in New York State. State Binghamton is founded. ** Feudal tenure is abolished. ** A conference meeting at Hartford, Connecticut, sets the western boundary of Indian lands one mile east of the Niagara River, between lakes Ontario and Erie. Rights to the Mile Strip are reserved for the state.=20 ** Albany housewright Isaac Packard builds Cherry Hill, a Georgian mansion, for Philip Van Renselaer. </fontfamily> <bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1788</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><= param>Geneva</param> January =09 Troy's weekly <italic>Northern Centinel & Lansingburgh Advertiser</italic>, now located in Albany, ceases publication. Jul 26 =09 New York, upon learning of Virginia's ratification, approves the Constitution, over the objections of governor George Clinton. Sep 13 =09 Congress schedules elections for the Presidency. New York City is declared the temporary capital of the U. S.=20 Oct 2 =09 The Confederation Congress is moved out of Federal Hall, to prepare the building for its new role. Nov 1 =09 Congress adjourns. State Massachusetts sells its western New York lands to Oliver Phelps, Nathaniel Gorham and other investors. Phelps and Gorham pay the Seneca $5000 in cash and trade goods, plus a $500 annual payment for western New York lands, which become part of the Miltary Tract, land set aside for veterans of the Revolution. The Onondaga accept a reservation of a few square miles. ** The Town of Cortlandt is founded. ** =20 Jeremiah Wadsworth of Hartford travels to the western part of the state, to inspect the Genesee Valley. ** Elmira is settled. Maryland Hagerstown businessman Colonel Nathaniel Rochester marries Sophia Beatty.=20 </fontfamily> <bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1789</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><= param>Geneva</param> Jan 29 =09 Politician and judge William B. Rochester is born to Nathaniel and Sophia Rochester, in Hagerstown, Maryland. Mar 4 =09 The First Constitutional Congress meets in New York City, without a quorum. The U. S. Constitution is declared to be in effect. Apr 1 =09 The U. S. House of Representatives, a quorum achieved, begins business, electing Frederick Augustus Muhlenburg as speaker. Apr 6 =09 The U. S. Senate achieves a quorum. John Langdon is chosen as its temporary presiding officer. Election returns are counted and messengers are sent to notify Washington and Adams. Apr 8 =09 The House begins deliberating on revenue raising. Apr 15 =09 John Ferno begins publishing an administration organ, <italic>The Gazette of the United States</italic>, in New York City. Apr 16 =09 George Washington leaves Mount Vernon for New York City.=20 Apr 21 =09 John Adams arrives in New York , takes his oath of office, and begins presiding over the Senate. =20 Apr 23 =09 Washington arrives in New York. Apr 30 =09 Washington is sworn in as the first President of the United States, on the front steps of Federal Hall. May =09 Moses DeWitt and Abraham Hardebegh lead a party of surveyors from the Hudson Valley to the western shore of the Oswego River, begin surveying the New Military Tract, over 1,500,000 acres of former Iroquois land. May 7 =09 The first U. S. Inaugural Ball is held. May 12 =09 A Republican political club, The Society of St. Tammany (an Indian chief), or the Columbian Order is formed, in New York City. Jun 1 =09 Congress, in its first act, regulates the administering of oaths. Sep 13 =09 Samuel Slater embarks from London for the U. S., carrying trade secrets of textile manufacturing. Sep 29 =09 Congress creates the U. S. Army. ** The adjournment of the first Congress under the Constitution is effected. Nov 18 =09 Slater arrives in New York City. City John Jacob Astor buys his first real estate, on the Bowery Road. ** State attorny general Richard Varick is appointed mayor for each of the next two years.=20 State Oliver Phelps opens the first U. S. land office, in Canandaigua. ** Ebenezer "Indian" Allen moves from the Scottsville area to a site at the Genesee River falls, a location that will become the city of Rochester. Allen erects a grist mill. ** Gideon Putnam settles Saratoga Springs. ** Corning and Ithaca are founded. ** The approximate date the first structure in Rensselaerville is erected. </fontfamily> David Minor Eagles Byte Historical Research Rochester, New York 716 264-0423 http://home.eznet.net/~dminor From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 21 09:04:51 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from snymorva.cs.snymor.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA10180; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:04:49 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: from snymorva.cs.snymor.edu by snymorva.cs.snymor.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #11626) id <[log in to unmask]> for [log in to unmask]; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:05:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:05:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Researching Flora Temple To: [log in to unmask] Message-id: <[log in to unmask]> Organization: SUNY College of Agriculture & Technology - Morrisville, New York X-VMS-To: IN%"[log in to unmask]" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT content-length: 1576 I'm in the process of researching one of the greatest trotting horses of all time, Flora Temple. She was born in 1845 in Oneida County, New York, and during the 1850's was known as "Queen of the Turf." In 1859 she was the first trotter to break the 2:20 mile. She was so popular in her day that babies were named after her, and she was immortalized many times by Currier & Ives. Are there any local historical societies that may have Flora Temple posters or memorabilia? I've been in contact with the Hall of Fame of the Trotter in Goshen, NY - they have Flora's wagon on display. I've also gotten several books on the history of race horses in America (including Woodruff's, Busbey's, Hervey's). Can anyone direct me to other sources? My immediate goal is the creation of a Flora Temple web page as part of the Local History Web site at SUNY-Morrisville. The long-term goal is to celebrate "Flora Temple Day" at the Equine Studies Center on the Morrisville campus, hopefully in September, 1997. The Web address is http://www.snymor.edu/pages/library/local_history/ Any assistance in this project will be most appreciated. *---------------------------------------------------* | Sue Greenhagen, Head of Technical Services | | Library, SUNY-Morrisville, Morrisville, NY 13408 | | [log in to unmask] | | (315) 684-6055 *** FAX (315) 684-6115 | | http://www.snymor.edu/~greenhsh/ | | "So many links, so little time..." | *---------------------------------------------------* From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 21 09:46:02 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from tolip.njin.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA10931; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:46:01 -0500 Received: from pilot.njin.net (pilot.njin.net [165.230.224.139]) by tolip.njin.net (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA16624 for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:46:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:46:47 -0500 (EST) From: Patricia Farrell <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: 39th Precinct? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 797 I'd love to hear anynews on this man's search. My grandfather was arrested for, of all things, horse theft in Brooklyn in about 1912 and I'm looking for records. He was a German immigrant. Thanks. Pat Farrell On Sat, 18 Jan 1997 [log in to unmask] wrote: > I had a GGrandmother who was arrested for vagrancy and was taken to the 39th > Precinct on White Plains ave. I'm trying to locate any blotters that may have > remained from the 39th Precinct (1900 to 1910 period). Also... what > happened to the 39th precinct, did it merge with another precinct. anyone? > anyone? > ---Patricia A. Farrell, Ph.D. e-mail: [log in to unmask] ---Licensed Psychologist ---Fellow, Am. Board of Forensic Med. [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 21 11:31:04 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from T-Rex.Minn.Net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA11845; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:31:02 -0500 Received: from dialup-220.minn.net (dialup-220.minn.net [205.198.124.32]) by T-Rex.Minn.Net (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA26226 for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:31:45 -0600 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:31:45 -0600 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: [log in to unmask] From: Bob Cook <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Old NYC Newspapers content-length: 248 At 02:49 AM 1/18/97 -0500, you wrote: >Pier 47 was about 3 blocks above the Manhattan Bridge and according to my >maps it no longer exists. > Jim, Thanks much for the info - everything helps, as you well know! Bob Cook [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 21 13:29:52 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from kitfox.anv.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA12279; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:29:49 -0500 Received: from [205.199.152.37] (ppp027.anv.net [205.199.152.37]) by kitfox.anv.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA24729 for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:36:11 -0800 Message-Id: <v01540b05acc7fa19ad4c@[205.199.152.37]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:35:07 -0800 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Geri Kanner) Subject: Re:USS Ryerson content-length: 96 Would anyone know of a Ship called the USS Ryerson Please E-mail me at [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 21 14:38:44 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from whidbey.whidbey.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA12698; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:38:43 -0500 Received: from asn206.whidbey.com (asn206.whidbey.com [204.94.52.206]) by whidbey.whidbey.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09225 for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:16:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:16:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: [log in to unmask] From: Peter Vandegrift <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: N. Amsterdam Dutch Council Records content-length: 850 Hi...just happen to have the following reference waiting for my next trip to a local LDS FHC to order on loan... Register of New Netherlands, LDS film no. 874364....It's great... Pete At 02:56 PM 1/17/97 -0500, you wrote: >-- [ From: Frederick E. Smith * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > >Hi, > >I am interested in doing research in the early Dutch Council (Governor's >Council) records of New Amsterdam, (circa) pre 1647. This was the earliest >court in the colony and the court of original jusrisdiction for all cases I >believe. > >I have heard that published minutes exist. Are they available at either NYS >Library or NYS Archives. Also, do original records exist and if so where are >they held. > >Thanks in advance for your comments. > >Sincerely, > >Rick Smith > > Peter Vandegrift [log in to unmask] Whidbey Island, Washington - THE state From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 22 01:34:57 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA14019; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:34:56 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA08965 for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:34:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:34:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: 39th Precinct? content-length: 225 An interesting question is raised. Is there a good reference work concerning the prectincts in NYC? There doesn't appear to be any reference to the precints in the nyc encyclopedia or the nyc historical atlas. Jim Maguire From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 22 05:40:42 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id FAA14337; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 05:40:39 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id AAA15937 for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:00:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:00:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: USS Ryerson content-length: 215 Is there a tie in with New York history here that could help us zero in on your ship? Prehaps dates of operation, a historical event? We may have helpful material available if we knew a little more. Jim Maguire From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 21 22:06:02 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA13528; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:06:00 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA20523 for [log in to unmask]; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:05:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:05:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: USS Ryerson content-length: 251 Dear Geri, Have you posted this to other lists? I am currently also on a Maritime history list, MARHST-L. If you would like me to pose your question to that list or would like more information, email me at [log in to unmask] Regards Darren Benoit From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 23 14:59:06 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from unix2.nysed.gov by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA17420; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:59:06 -0500 Received: from dos50.nysed.gov by unix2.nysed.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA26601; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:59:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:59:53 +0500 (EST) From: Barbara Lilley <[log in to unmask]> To: nyhistory listserv <[log in to unmask]> Subject: court records Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> X-X-Sender: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 443 The New York City Department of Records and INformation Services, Municipal Archives holds the records for the NYC District Attorney as well as the NYC Criminal Court Records. Most or all of these records (fromthe nineteenth century) have been microfilmed through NEH grants. Their telephone number is 212-788-8585 Address 31 Chambers Street, NY, NY 10007 Barbara Lilley Conservation/Preservation Program Officer New York State Library From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 23 15:44:41 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from unix2.nysed.gov by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA17484; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:44:40 -0500 Received: from dos50.nysed.gov by unix2.nysed.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA27185; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:45:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:45:27 +0500 (EST) From: Barbara Lilley <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Researching Flora Temple In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> X-X-Sender: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1976 I don't know if this will be useful (not knowing much about horse racing) but the National Museum of Racing in Saratoga Springs has a library/archive. Their telephone number is 518-584-0400 Address 191 Union Avenue Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 Barbara Lilley New York State Library On Tue, 21 Jan 1997 [log in to unmask] wrote: > I'm in the process of researching one of the greatest trotting horses of all > time, Flora Temple. She was born in 1845 in Oneida County, New York, and > during the 1850's was known as "Queen of the Turf." In 1859 she was the first > trotter to break the 2:20 mile. > She was so popular in her day that babies were named after her, and she was > immortalized many times by Currier & Ives. Are there any local historical > societies that may have Flora Temple posters or memorabilia? > I've been in contact with the Hall of Fame of the Trotter in Goshen, NY - > they have Flora's wagon on display. I've also gotten several books on the > history of race horses in America (including Woodruff's, Busbey's, Hervey's). > Can anyone direct me to other sources? > My immediate goal is the creation of a Flora Temple web page as part of the > Local History Web site at SUNY-Morrisville. The long-term goal is to celebrate > "Flora Temple Day" at the Equine Studies Center on the Morrisville campus, > hopefully in September, 1997. > The Web address is http://www.snymor.edu/pages/library/local_history/ > Any assistance in this project will be most appreciated. > *---------------------------------------------------* > | Sue Greenhagen, Head of Technical Services | > | Library, SUNY-Morrisville, Morrisville, NY 13408 | > | [log in to unmask] | > | (315) 684-6055 *** FAX (315) 684-6115 | > | http://www.snymor.edu/~greenhsh/ | > | "So many links, so little time..." | > *---------------------------------------------------* > > From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 23 18:15:03 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA17596; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:15:01 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA00881 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:15:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:15:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Pliny Adams Regt., War of 1812 content-length: 297 Where might I find a complete list of the soldiers and officers in the regiment commanded by Lt. Col. Pliny Adams in the War of 1812? They were from Washington Co., NY. I have dug through the Wash. Co. histories with no success. Any suggestions? Thanks! Laura Hulslander [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 24 12:12:22 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA18762; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:12:21 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:07:55 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:07:24 -0500 From: James Folts <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: New Netherland Council Minutes content-length: 1294 Response to recent inquiry about New Netherland Council Minutes: The surviving minutes of the Council of New Netherland are at the New York State Archives in Albany (record series 1809). Portions of the minutes were destroyed in the Capitol fire of 1911, and the rest were damaged to varying degrees. Use of the fragile original documents is restricted. The minutes are, of course, written in the Dutch language, in a script that takes special training to read. The minutes have been microfilmed, and the microfilm is available for use at the New York State Archives. Portions of the minutes have been translated and edited, as follows: New York Historical Manuscripts: Dutch. Vol. IV: Council Minutes, 1638-1649, trans. Arnold J.F. Van Laer, ed. Kenneth Scott and Kenn Stryker-Rodda (Baltimore: 1974). Vol. V: Council Minutes, 1652-1654, trans. and ed. Charles T. Gehring (Baltimore: 1983). Vol. VI: Council Minutes, 1655-1656, trans. and ed. Charles T. Gehring (Syracuse: 1995). Vols. V-VI are available from Syracuse University Press, 1600 Jamesville Ave., Syracuse, NY 13244-5160. Jim Folts Co-Moderator, NYHIST-L New York State Archives Cultural Education Center Room 11D40 Albany, NY 12230 USA E-mail [log in to unmask] Phone (518) 474-8955; Fax (518) 473-9985 From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 24 12:20:38 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA18831; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:20:38 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:20:54 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:21:20 -0500 From: James Folts <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Pliny Adams Regt., War of 1812 -Reply content-length: 768 Most records relating to service in the War of 1812 (primarily muster and pay rolls, and compiled service records) are found in Record Group 94, National Archives, Washington, DC 20408; phone 202-501-5400. The New York State Archives holds transcriptions of pay rolls for New York militia companies that were mustered into Federal service during the War of 1812. These transcriptions (record series B0811) contain name, rank, amount of pay, and Captain's name. The documents have not been microfilmed and therefore must be used here at the New York State Archives in Albany. Jim Folts Co-Moderator, NYHIST-L New York State Archives Cultural Education Center Room 11D40 Albany, NY 12230 USA E-mail [log in to unmask] Phone (518) 474-8955; Fax (518) 473-9985 From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 24 14:33:28 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA19187; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:33:15 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA13958 for [log in to unmask]; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:34:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:34:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ON MAPS content-length: 532 CAN ANYONE HELP ME? I AM LOOKING FOR TWO MAPS WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO OBTAIN COPYS, I AN NOT SURE IF THEY ARE FROM ATLASAS OR GAZETEETS OR WERE PRODUCED AS FLAT MAPS. THE FIRST HAS THE LEDGEND, "MAP OF THE ROME WATERTOWN AND OGDENSBURG RAILWAY AND CONNECTIONS". IT WAS PRODUCED BY RAND MCNALLY AND CO. ENGRAVERS, CHICAGO. THE 2ND MAP IS BASICLLY THE SAME BUT BY ANOTHER CO I BELIEVE. THEY WERE PROBABLY PRODUCED BETWEEN 1900 AND 1915. I HAVE PIECED PARTS TOGETHER FROM OLD RAILROAD SCHEDULES HOWEVER IT IS QUITE INCOMPLETE. From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 24 17:38:12 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from eagle1.eaglenet.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA19432; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:38:11 -0500 Received: from eagle1 by eagle1.eaglenet.com (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA23793; Fri, 24 Jan 97 17:38:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:38:36 -0500 (EST) From: Phlete Teachout <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: fteachou@eagle1 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: New Netherland Council Minutes In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Message-Id: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970124173604.23372B-100000@eagle1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 741 On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, James Folts wrote: > Response to recent inquiry about New Netherland Council Minutes: > > Vol. IV: Council Minutes, 1638-1649, trans. Arnold J.F. Van Laer, ed. > Kenneth Scott and Kenn Stryker-Rodda (Baltimore: 1974). > > Vol. V: Council Minutes, 1652-1654, trans. and ed. Charles T. Gehring > (Baltimore: 1983). Just my luck. I need info from these records for 1650-1652. Are council records for these years what was destroyed in the fire, are they just missing, or just not included for some other reason? Anybody know? Regards, - fleet - P. R. "Fleet" Teachout [log in to unmask] http://www.eaglenet.com/fteachou/ From [log in to unmask] Sat Jan 25 10:06:12 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA20494; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:06:11 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA20335 for [log in to unmask]; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:07:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:07:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Pliny Adams Regt., War of 1812 -Reply content-length: 438 Jim-- I was afraid you'd say they weren't microfilmed. I live in TX so it's not likely I will get there to use them. Sigh..... I have bits and pieces of the names of the soldiers but can't seem to get the whole list together in one place at one time. Will keep on digging around and see what I can find. I find good info in some unusual places!! Thanks for the info, it's going in my file. Laura Hulslander [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Sat Jan 25 21:06:45 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from newman.concentric.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA21175; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:06:43 -0500 Received: from [206.83.77.81] (cnc059081.concentric.net [206.83.77.81]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.3/(96/11/08 1.11)) id VAA27580; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:07:28 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Errors-To: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Researching Flora Temple Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 21:05:52 -0000 x-sender: [log in to unmask] x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "Robert J. Hammerslag" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" content-length: 1693 I saw your request regarding Flora Temple and brought it to the attention of our librarian at the National Museum of Racing in Saratoga. He did a little bit of digging in our archives and found a great series of articles on Flora Temple, written in late 1856-early 1857. The source of these articles is called "Porter's Spirit of the Times", Volume 1, which began in September of 1856. This volume also had a wonderful, color illustration of Flora Temple at the Union Course (near the present location of Belmont Park) on Long Island. I don't know whether you have seen this illustration or the seven part article on her, but I think it would be of great interest to you if you haven't. "Porter's" only ran from 1856-1860 and was preceded by the old "Spirit of the Times" and followed by someone else's "Spirit of the Times" after Mr. Porter died in 1860. If you can't find this particular publication, we would be glad to make a xerox copy of the articles for you...though the print is very small. Otherwise, I would suggest that you call the Museum and ask for Tom Gilcoyne and set up an appointment to come to Saratoga and read it yourself. The individual chapters are as follows: (1) December 27, 1865, page 273; (2) January 3, 1857, page 292; (3) January 10, 1857, pages 300-301; (4) January 17, 1857, pages 318; (5) January 24, 1857, page 334; (6) January 31, 1857, page 350; and (7) February 7, 1857, page 366. I wish you good luck on your project and urge you to contact Mr. Gilcoyne regardless, as he is a fountain of information about racing, both flat and harness! Best, Lauren Murphy 5 Court Street Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 (518)580-1571 From [log in to unmask] Sat Jan 25 22:20:16 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA21237; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:20:15 -0500 Received: from mark (alb-ny6-26.ix.netcom.com [198.211.83.90]) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01465 for <[log in to unmask]>; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 19:21:02 -0800 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:15:57 -0500 From: Mark LoRusso <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: NY poor house question References: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 2995 [log in to unmask] wrote: > > I am working with poor house records from Washington Co., NY. They are > very interesting and certainly not politcally correct with their descriptions > of the cause for admission. They use terms such as lazy, ugly, bad character, > simple, lunacy, etc. Also used are cripple, lameness, sickness, pregnant, old > age, etc. The term most often used is intemperance or intemperate. Now, to > me, that would indicate the person had some sort of drinking problem. > However, when you read through several pages, you will find the term > intemperance used as much as 60% of the time. I can't imagine that all these > people truly had the problem of intemperance. My question is this--were the > people interviewed upon entering the poor house and were they asked if they > drank alcohol? Could it be that they just said yes, they drank (never saying > how much) and because they said yes, they were put down as "intemperate?" > A few individuals have the cause for admission entered as "drunk." As > I read through, some of these names appear over and over again and it seems > as though they are the people with REAL drinking problems. I just wonder > about what seems to be an excessive use of the term intemperance. > Does anyone know if people were asked this question on admission? I > would like to find out if others have run across this term used on such a > frequent basis. I'm also interested in general information on the background > of the poor house in NY. Any suggestions as to where I can get that info? I > have been in contact with Wash. Co. and have info on the specific poor house > there. > Laura Hulslander > [log in to unmask] My own study of the Albany County Almshouse over the years 1875 through 1925 showed that very few of the people were admitted as "drunk" or "intemperate." The highest counts were in 1915 and 1875, when 14% and 7%, respectively, were cited for alchohol or "dope." In other census years hardly anyone was admitted for this reason. The proportions of primary causes for admission, namely mental problems ("insane"), diseases (mostly T.B and rheumatism), injuries (broken limbs), homelessness (very high during the Depression of 1875) varied significantly between censuses, reflecting both actual differences and differences in perception by the institution. Your case could reflect a combination of actual intemperance, the intolerance of an admission staff to drinking, and possibly the listing of an arbitrary affliction to allow the sheltering of otherwise homeless able-bodied people, especially during the winter. Have you checked the NYS Archives and Manuscripts for records of the NYS Board of Charities. I found it interesting to see how their annual reports for admissions varied from the almshouse censuses which are listed by the Board of Charities and in the population census records for each county. The census of tramps admitted to the almshouses during 1875-1876 is also ineresting. From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 27 08:13:13 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MAIL.NYSED.GOV by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA23264; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:13:12 -0500 Received: from SEDDOM1-Message_Server by MAIL.NYSED.GOV with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:13:24 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:08:38 -0500 From: Bob Arnold <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: court records -Reply content-length: 412 Actually, The NYC Dept of Records and Information Services (DORIS) holds some but not all of the records of the NYC District Attorney. Note that there are FIVE DAs, one in each of the City's counties, and several of which have a records program. For information re their records NOT held by DORIS, contact the NYS Archives' Regional Advisory Officer in Manhattan, Brenda Parnes, at: [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 27 13:08:51 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from rullt2.LeidenUniv.nl by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA24503; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:08:47 -0500 Received: from rullet.LeidenUniv.nl by rullet.LeidenUniv.nl (PMDF V5.0-6 #2497) id <[log in to unmask]> for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:05:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:05:24 +0100 (MET) From: Jaap Jacobs <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: New Netherland Council Minutes To: [log in to unmask] Message-id: <[log in to unmask]> X-VMS-To: IN%"[log in to unmask]" X-VMS-Cc: JAJACOBS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT content-length: 307 The 1650-1652 council minutes were already missing when O'Callaghan compiled the Calendar of Historical Manuscripts in 1865. Dependingg on what you exactly want there are some other sources that might be usefull, either in Albany or in Holland. Jaap Jacobs Leiden University [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 27 13:24:48 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA24536; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:24:46 -0500 Received: from pou-ny2-47.ix.netcom.com ([log in to unmask] [207.93.47.111]) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA14738 for <[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:25:31 -0800 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:25:24 -0800 From: Jim Yates <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ON MAPS References: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 1132 [log in to unmask] wrote: > > CAN ANYONE HELP ME? I AM LOOKING FOR TWO MAPS WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO OBTAIN COPYS, I AN NOT SURE IF THEY ARE FROM ATLASAS OR GAZETEETS OR WERE PRODUCED AS FLAT MAPS. THE FIRST HAS THE LEDGEND, "MAP OF THE ROME WATERTOWN AND OGDENSBURG RAILWAY AND CONNECTIONS". IT WAS PRODUCED BY RAND MCNALLY AND CO. Hi all, I just subscribed to this list, I live in Kingston, and am interested in history and do a lotta of research that helps me in my hobby of metal detecting, any way, I have a few links to historic map sites from my home page listed in my signature file. Also this link to SUNY Library has a few nice map links. http://www.sunysb.edu/libmap/links.htm Hope this helps......Jim -- ********************************************************** * Jim Yates [log in to unmask] * * [log in to unmask] * * [log in to unmask] * * * * Home Page http://members.aol.com/jimyce/index.html * ********************************************************** From [log in to unmask] Mon Jan 27 14:08:29 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mail1.eznet.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA24681; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:08:22 -0500 Received: from [207.50.130.11] (dialup01.roc-tc1.eznet.net [207.50.130.11]) by mail1.eznet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09300; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:04:18 -0500 X-Sender: [log in to unmask] (Unverified) Message-Id: <v03007800af12a9f66fa1@[207.50.129.88]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:03:20 -0500 To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] From: David Minor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: NYNY 1790-1794 content-length: 7559 <bold><fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>1790</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><= param>Geneva</param> Jan 14 =09 Alexander Hamilton presents his first public credit statement to the U. S. Congress, advocating the payment of U. S. debts at par value, and the Federal assumption of all state debts incurred during the war. =46eb 3 =09 New York authorizes the transfer of New Jersey's Sandy Hook lighthouse, built by New York, to the U. S. government. =46eb 11 =09 Congress receives its first antislavery petitions. ** James Madison addresses Congress on Hamilton's funding proposals. Mar 1 =09 Congress passes the Census Act, calling for a census every ten years.=20 Mar 21 =09 Thomas Jefferson arrives in New York City and reports to President George Washington to be made Secretary of State. ** Canal engineer David Bates Douglass is born in Pompton, New Jersey, to Deacon Nathaniel Douglass and Sarah Bates of Newark.=20 Mar 22 =09 Thomas Jefferson is sworn in as U. S. Secretary of State. Apr 4 =09 The U. S. Coast Guard is created, under the Treasury Department, to suppress smuggling. =20 Apr 10 =09 Congress enacts the Patent Act in an attempt to rectify the expense and difficulty of the British patent process. Apr 12 =09 The House of Representatives defeats the Assumption Act. May 1 =09 Jefferson is struck by a violent headache and incapacitated for a month. May 26 =09 The Southwest Territory (Tennessee) is given a Territorial government. Congress also accepts the last of North Carolina's western lands. They are designated the Territory South of the River Ohio. May 31 =09 Congress enacts its first copyright law. Jun 2 =09 Jefferson moves to 57 Maiden Lane. Jun 9 =09 The Wadsworth brothers arrive in the Genesee Valley. Jun 20 =09 Congress, at the urging of Hamilton, passes the Assumption Act, at the price of a compromise - the placing of the capital in a southern location.=20 Jul 12 =09 Jefferson outlines a policy to be followed if the Spain and Britain go to war over Nootka Sound. =20 Jul 13 =09 Jefferson submits his Report on Coinage, Weights, and Measures. Jul 16 =09 Congress votes in favor of the Residence Bill, to make Philadelphia home of the national government for ten years, while another site, to be selected by the President, is prepared. Aug 4 =09 The Congressional Funding Act establishes public credit, authorizes the Treasury to accept war bonds as debt payment, and assumes all state debts to the Federal government. Aug 7 =09 The U. S. signs a treaty with Creek Indian Alexander McGillivray at =46ederal Hall, to preserve peace with the Indians of the southwestern area of the states. =20 Aug 12 =09 Congress recesses. Philadelphia becomes the temporary capital of the U. S.=20 Aug 15 =09 Washington and Jefferson leave New York for Rhode Island. Sep 1 =09 Jefferson leaves New York for Monticello. Oct 7 =09 New York and Vermont come to an agreement on their common boundary. New York relinquishes the Vermont territory for $30,000. City John McComb's Government House is built in lower Manhattan, as a residence for George Washington. The U. S. Customs House sits on the site today. ** A U. S. Army garrison is stationed on Governor's Island. State Phelps and Gorham's land sales lag and they sell the land west of the Genesee back to Massachusetts. ** William Wickham and his family leave Orange County in the fall, heading for the Finger Lakes. They winter over in Tioga Point (Athens).</fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>Geneva</param> <bold>1791</bold> May 3 =09 William Wickham and his family having left Tioga Point (Athens) and proceeded to the Finger Lakes by way of boat, foot and canoe, arrive in Hector to become the first permanent settlers. They quickly build the first house there. Jun 9 =09 Playwright-composer John Howard Payne is born in New York City. City The city begins a ten-year project to fill in the Collect Pond, a source of drinking water, after pollution makes it unfit to drink. State =46inancier Robert Morris buys Phelps and Gorham's land west of the Genesee River, acquiring 4,000,000 acres for $333,333.33. ** =20 Rensselaer County is created from part of Albany County. ** The Society for the Promotion of Agriculture, Arts and Manufactures is established at the Albany Academy. ** The Albany Institute of History and Art is founded. <bold>1792</bold> =46eb 14 =09 The Albany Library is incorporated. Apr 10 =09 The Town of Fairfield is established in Warren County. May 17 =09 The New York Stock Exchange is formed beneath a buttonwood tree on Wall Street.=20 Oct 12 =09 New York City's Society of St. Tammany holds the first major celebration of Columbus' discovery of America. City The law firm of Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft is founded. State Robert Morris sells most of his land in the state, east of the Genesee River, to William Pultney and his associates. ** Scotsman Patrick Campbell comes to America to scout the Genesee Valley for his countrymen, publishes <italic>Travels;1792</italic>. . ** The town of Chili is settled. ** Cortland is founded. ** John Wells is admittd to the New York Supreme Court. Canals The Western Inland Lock Navigation Company is formed by General Philip Schuyler, to build a three-mile Little Falls canal and another linking the Mohawk River with Wood Creek. Netherlands The Dutch investment house of P. & C. van Eeghen, Schimmelpennick, Stadnitski, Van Staphorst, Vollenhoven, W. & J. Willink join together to form the Holland Land Company. Their U. S. agent Theophile Cazenove begins buying up land in western New York. <bold>1793</bold> Apr 3 =09 New York City receives the news of France's declaration of war on Britain. Nov 25 =09 An insurrection of slaves in Albany is put down after a number of buildings have been burned. City Construction begins on the State Street home of James Watson, later to become the Shrine of Blessed Mother (Saint) Seton. The architecture is attributed to John McComb, Jr. State Robert Morris completes the sale of 3,600,000 acres of western New York land to Theophile Cazenove. ** Auburn is founded. ** The town of Seneca is founded. ** A treaty with the Onondaga reduces the size of their reservation. ** Albany's Society for the Promotion of Agriculture, Arts, and Manufactures is incorporated. ** New York City capitalist Herman Le Roy and associates William Bayard and John McEvers purchase 85,000 acres of western New York land from agent Robert Morris - the Triangle Tract. Charles Wilbur erects a cabin in the area New Jersey Abolitionist, minister and college (Ingham University) president Samuel Hansen Cox is born. <bold>1794</bold> City =09 Designer Duncan Phyfe begins manufacturing furniture. ** Bellevue Hospital is created out of a pest house built to cope with the plague.=20 ** Journeymen printers form the Franklin Typographical Society, the city's first permanent labor association. State County boundaries are surveyed in the Military Tract. ** Pulteney land agent Charles Williamson arrives in the Geneva area. He lays out a village green (later Pulteney Park). ** John Stevens demonstrates a steamboat. Indians The Pickering Treaty limits the Seneca to western New York lands. </fontfamily> David Minor Eagles Byte Historical Research Rochester, New York 716 264-0423 http://home.eznet.net/~dminor From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 28 12:56:57 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from VAXC.HOFSTRA.EDU by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA27866; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:56:55 -0500 Received: from vaxc.hofstra.edu by vaxc.hofstra.edu (PMDF V5.0-8 #15259) id <[log in to unmask]> for [log in to unmask]; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:57:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "NATALIE A. NAYLOR" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Col. Jennings To: [log in to unmask] Message-id: <[log in to unmask]> X-VMS-To: IN%"[log in to unmask]" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT content-length: 633 Rock Hall Museum in Lawrence, Long Island was recently given a portrait of the wife of Col. Jennings. He is identified (on the back of the framed portrait) as "Superintendent of Indian Affairs, one of the Supreme Council of America, Acted as Deputy Governor of the Colony." I'm not sure he was from New York, but haven't been able to locate him in any references I've checked thus far. He may have been from one of the New england colonies. If anyone can provide leads to help further identify Jennings (or even better, his wife!), I--and the museum would appreciate it. Natalie Naylor, Hofstra University: NUCNZN.Hofstra.edu From [log in to unmask] Tue Jan 28 13:10:24 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from VAXC.HOFSTRA.EDU by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA27926; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:10:22 -0500 Received: from vaxc.hofstra.edu by vaxc.hofstra.edu (PMDF V5.0-8 #15259) id <[log in to unmask]> for [log in to unmask]; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:10:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "NATALIE A. NAYLOR" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: New publications on Long Island Indians To: [log in to unmask] Message-id: <[log in to unmask]> X-VMS-To: IN%"[log in to unmask]" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT content-length: 1179 The Long Island Studies Institute at Hofstra University has sponsored publication of two new books on Long Island's Native Americans, both by Professor John Strong of Southampton College of Long Island University: "The Algonquian Peoples of Long Island from Earliest times to 1700" includes five chapters based on archaeology and anthropology and six chapters on the historical period. It covers geographical Long Island and is the first comprehensive narrative history of Long Island Indians. The book has more than 60 illustrations, many by a Shinnecock artist. It is published in hardcover by Heart of the Lakes Publishing in Interlaken, NY; 366 pages, $40. The companion volume, "'We Are Still Here!' The Algonguian Peoples of Long Island Today" is a 7x10 paperback with 105 pages which deals with the more recent and contemporary past, focusing particularly on the groups remaining in eastern Long Island: Shinnecock, Poospatuck, and Montaukett as well as the Matinecock. Those interested in additional information on either book can contact the Long Island Studies Institute, c/o Natalie Naylor, Director, Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY 11550: [log in to unmask] From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 29 01:37:38 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA29578; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:37:37 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA29365 for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:38:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:38:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Researching Kati Ferguson Home(s) for unwed African American women content-length: 3117 Trying to track some background on the Kati Ferguson home(s) or Houses, circa 1920-1950), maternity facility in NYC for unwed African American young women and girls. Here's why: For a Women's History Month project, I am researching the life of Katharine Bement Davis (1860-1935): first Chicago University woman Ph. D. recipient (1900), first superintendent of NY State Reformatory for Women in Bedford Hills (1901-13), first woman NYCity Correction Commissioner (1914-15), possibly first woman for NY statewide office on a then-major party ticket before women could vote (Constitutional Convention delegate-at-large candidate Progressive Party 1914), first chairperson of NYCity Parole Commission she helped create (1916-17), pioneer in social research on sexuality (long before Dr. Kinsey) as head of Rockefeller-funded Bureau of Social Hygiene (1918-28). Names at her 1928 testimonial read like Who's Who in Progressive Era Social Reform America. The printed program and newspaper stories list speakers telling about phases in her life (a "This Is Your Life" format). I have gotten information on most of speakers and/or their testimonial topics except three, one of whom was Alderman Fred R. Moore who spoke on the "Kati Ferguson Houses." I know he was publisher of "New York Age," an African-American weekly, and leader of a black businessmen's group. I know Kati (Catherine) Ferguson was an ex-slave who ran a successful NYC pastry business in the late 1700s and early 1800s and founded a school for the poor. I know that, besides Moore, a Mrs. Willard Parker of kati Ferguson Homes was involved in the Davis testimonial. And I know biographers have reported that Davis chaired the board of a maternity home for unwed black women, but the facility is unnmaed. As a working assumption, I conclude the home that goes nameless in the bio book entries is the Kati Ferguson Home. But I don't have that absolutely nailed down, and even if I go with it, I don't have how long she served or other details. I don't know who Mrs. Parker is nor how Mr. Moore figures into it. Right now the pressure of other business at the office prevents me from library raids during the day and opportunity at night is limited so that when I do get there i must maximize the little time i have before closing. I would appreciate leads. Thanks. My name is Thomas McCarthy, director of editorial / communication services with the NYC Dept. of Correction. I plan special Women History Month articles in our newsletter and web page. I also am a graduate student (distance learning) with California State University at Dominguez Hills. My office phone is 212 266-1016. My office fax is 212 266-1597. My personal email address is: [log in to unmask] Acknowledgments and source credit will be given happily. I have researched at Rockefeller Archives Center, Vassar Library Special Collections, NYC Municipal Archives. Have material from Encycl. of NYCity, Encycl. of Am. Prisons, Dictionary of Notable Am. Women, Bio. Dictionary of Social Welfare, Dr. E. Fitzpatrick's "Endless Crusade" and her edited book of KBD material reprinted. From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 29 15:58:28 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from utkux.utcc.utk.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA01121; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:58:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by utkux.utcc.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK.UTCC) id AA10860; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:59:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:59:02 -0500 (EST) From: Milton M Klein <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Col. Jennings In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1134 The only Col. Jennings I know of is Edmund Jenings (Jennings) who was acting governor of Virginia from 1706 to 17l0. But I cannot find any record of his being Superintendent of Indian Affairs or anything else. Maybe there is another Colonel Jennings out there hiding in the colonial bushes. Milton M. Klein University Historian Room 3, Hoskins Library University of Tennessee Knoxville, TN 37996 (423) 974-2806 [log in to unmask] On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, NATALIE A. NAYLOR wrote: > Rock Hall Museum in Lawrence, Long Island was recently given a portrait > of the wife of Col. Jennings. He is identified (on the back of the framed > portrait) as "Superintendent of Indian Affairs, one of the Supreme Council of > America, Acted as Deputy Governor of the Colony." I'm not sure he was from New > York, but haven't been able to locate him in any references I've checked thus > far. He may have been from one of the New england colonies. If anyone can > provide leads to help further identify Jennings (or even better, his wife!), > I--and the museum would appreciate it. > Natalie Naylor, Hofstra University: NUCNZN.Hofstra.edu > From [log in to unmask] Wed Jan 29 18:34:17 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from mailer.syr.edu by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA01585; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:34:16 -0500 Received: from forbin.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id 294A6480 ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:35:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (gbwagner@localhost) by forbin.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04423 for <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:47:04 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: forbin.syr.edu: gbwagner owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:46:47 -0500 (EST) From: Wagner <[log in to unmask]> X-Sender: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Researching Flora Temple In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1935 I write a newspaper column for the Oneida paper and put in your request for information about flora Temple. good luck! Geri Wagner On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Robert J. Hammerslag wrote: > I saw your request regarding Flora Temple and brought it to the attention > of our librarian at the National Museum of Racing in Saratoga. He did a > little bit of digging in our archives and found a great series of > articles on Flora Temple, written in late 1856-early 1857. The source of > these articles is called "Porter's Spirit of the Times", Volume 1, which > began in September of 1856. This volume also had a wonderful, color > illustration of Flora Temple at the Union Course (near the present > location of Belmont Park) on Long Island. I don't know whether you have > seen this illustration or the seven part article on her, but I think it > would be of great interest to you if you haven't. "Porter's" only ran > from 1856-1860 and was preceded by the old "Spirit of the Times" and > followed by someone else's "Spirit of the Times" after Mr. Porter died in > 1860. If you can't find this particular publication, we would be glad to > make a xerox copy of the articles for you...though the print is very > small. Otherwise, I would suggest that you call the Museum and ask for > Tom Gilcoyne and set up an appointment to come to Saratoga and read it > yourself. The individual chapters are as follows: (1) December 27, > 1865, page 273; (2) January 3, 1857, page 292; (3) January 10, 1857, > pages 300-301; (4) January 17, 1857, pages 318; (5) January 24, 1857, > page 334; (6) January 31, 1857, page 350; and (7) February 7, 1857, page > 366. > > I wish you good luck on your project and urge you to contact Mr. Gilcoyne > regardless, as he is a fountain of information about racing, both flat > and harness! > > Best, Lauren Murphy 5 Court Street Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 > (518)580-1571 > From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 30 08:40:54 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA03293; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:40:53 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Received: (from root@localhost) by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA06529 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:41:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:41:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re:USS Ryerson content-length: 63 Try "Jane's Fighting Ships." Should be in most good libraries. From [log in to unmask] Thu Jan 30 09:16:03 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from naps.uwindsor.ca by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA03392; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:16:01 -0500 Received: by naps.uwindsor.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA12241; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:18:41 -0500 Received: from server.campus.uwindsor.ca(137.207.92.12) by dns.uwindsor.ca via smap (V2.0beta) id xma012186; Thu, 30 Jan 97 09:16:54 -0500 Received: from c1m16p16.facstaff.uwindsor.ca (c1m16p16.facstaff.uwindsor.ca [137.207.130.26]) by server.uwindsor.ca (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA22933 for <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:16:53 -0500 Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Comments: Authenticated sender is <[log in to unmask]> From: "epsmith" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: University of Windsor To: [log in to unmask] Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:52:10 +0000 Subject: Re: Researching Kati Ferguson Home(s) for unwed African America X-Confirm-Reading-To: "epsmith" <epsmith> X-pmrqc: 1 Return-receipt-to: "epsmith" <[log in to unmask]> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) content-length: 1023 Trying to track some background on the Kati Ferguson home(s) or Houses, circa 1920-1950).. Dear Thomas McCarthy: I have run across Mrs. Willard Parker several times, and if you are interested, let me know and I will look up my references. Briefly, Mrs. Parker was active in child welfare matters through the 1940s. She was an officer (president or vice-president of the Federation of Protestant Welfare Agencies, president of the board of the Riverdale Children's Home (colored orphan asylum), and, I gather, other New York agencies. She was against racial integration: she figures in the fight by protestant child welfare agencies in 1942 to block the City's attempt to integrate child welfare agencies so that there would be additional placements for African American children. (See my article in Social Service Review, March 1995). Davis sounds like a most interesting person. Would like to know more about her. Eve Smith, University of Windsor [log in to unmask] Telephone: 519 945-1940 From [log in to unmask] Fri Jan 31 13:18:12 1997 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from kitfox.anv.net by unix10 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA06792; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:18:10 -0500 Received: from [205.199.152.42] (ppp032.anv.net [205.199.152.42]) by kitfox.anv.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA26834 for <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:28:23 -0800 Message-Id: <v01540b00af17e8857ce1@[205.199.152.70]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:21:40 -0800 To: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] (Geri Kanner) Subject: Re:USS Ryerson content-length: 116 >Try "Jane's Fighting Ships." Should be in most good libraries. Thank you very much for this information Geri