Thanks to all who responded about the O'Callaghan 4 Vol. NYS History set.
They now sit
on the table behind me...maps intact...I can see many hours of pleasurable
perusal
ahead of me!  A friend and I were remarking how much we would rather have
studied our
state history from these books than the Regents review books that were our
texts a few
decades back!

Nancy McNicol
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        The Union Preserved, New York and the Civil War, a symposium of =
the New York State Archives, will take place June 11-12, 1999 in Albany, =
New York. Keynote speaker: Jeff M. Shaara.=20
Presenters: Judge Joseph W. Bellacosa, Iver Bernstein, Laurence Hauptman, =
Harold Holzer, Daniel Lorello, Howard E. Mitchell, Jr., Lonnie R. Speer, =
Hans L. Trefousse, Judge Frank J. Williams Jr., Lillian S. Williams.=20
Also, exhibition of rare Civil War documents and artifacts and release of =
new publication, The Union Preserved: A Guide to Civil War Records in the =
New York State Archives.=20
For complete program, registration form and information on fees: New York =
State Archives, 9B70 Cultural Education Center, Albany, NY 12230; phone: =
(518) 473-8037; e-mail: [log in to unmask]; website: http://www.sara.nysed=
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Good Morning [from Harry Bradshaw Matthews]:

During 1998, the United States Colored Troops Institute for Local
History and Family Research was established by charter members
from 9 states and Canada to honor the approx. 200 thousand
soldiers and sailors of African descent, and their 7 thousand
white officers, who fought in the Civil War. Recognition is
also given to the abolitionists and agents of the Underground
Railroad.

I am pleased to announce that the first issue of the
"USCT Civil War Digest," a 4-page newsletter, will be available
for distribution in 2 weeks. Members of the Institute will
automatically receive the issue.

Members of the general population may also receive this issue
by forwarding a $1 donation per issue (plus 50 cents for mailing),
or a $10 donation per 12 copies (plus $2 for mailing) payable
in advance to "Hartwick College."

This first issue include 1) the editorial from "The Colored
American" of 1837 explaining the reason for the use of
"Colored American" to identify people of Africand descent
in the United States; 2) front and back illustrations of
the "Butler Medal," the only medal struck specifically for
black soldiers of the Civil War, and other historical references.

Two issues are published per year - in April and October. Please
understand that copies will be made available strictly on a
first come, first serve basis. Please forward requests and
donations to:

Harry Bradshaw Matthews
President, USCT Institute
Center for Interdependence
Hartwick College
Oneonta, NY 13820
607-431-4428
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We have at least four limestone bridges in the Town of Fairfield, two of them
currently in use.  I am interested in learning more about stone arch bridge
construction.  What were the techniques involved, when were they popular, who
were some well known builders, etc.  The town would like to apply for
historic register status.  It would help if we knew if these bridges were
somewhat unique or examples of a lost art.  I would appreciate any help in
pointing me in the right direction for researching this type of bridge.
Jane Dieffenbacher
Fairfield Town Historian
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Congratulations to Edwin G. Burrows and Mike Wallace for winning the
Pulitzer history prize for "Gotham: A History of New York City to 1898!"
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Ditto congratulations from NYHIST-L and the New York State Archives
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I'm looking for birth and death dates, and birthplace, of Jesse Clipper,
the first African-American fatality in World War I. There's a monument to
him and other blacks who gave their lives in combat, in Buffalo.

David

David Minor
Eagles Byte Historical Research
Pittsford, New York
716 264-0423
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Hello everybody,
        This is a message from France (apologies for the possible
mistakes, my English is far from being perfect), where a brand new
journal, named Labyrinthe, is born. What is Labyrinthe ? It is published
by Maisonneuve et Larose, a french academic publisher. The journal
publishes studies written by young researchers (up to Ph.D included),
whatever the matter they study. As a matter of fact, Labyrinthe is
interdisciplinary : we try to publish articles on a same theme from
various points of view. In the long term, our final objective is to
publish collective articles, written by several authors who would have met
thanks to the journal and to the association that is behind it. Moreover,
the journal aims at being as well a scientific one, based on well-grounded
research works, as a journal for the general public (which implies a
relative popularization of the purpose). Basically the journal is a
French-speaking one, but translation of foreign contributions may easily
be contemplated.
        Personally, I am more particularly in charge of historical
contributions, in the broad sense of the term. If you are interested, or
think someone you know would be, please do not hesitate to contact me. I
will give you any further information you may demand.
        Hope to hear from you soon.


        Marc AYMES
        92, bd Jourdan
        75014 PARIS
        FRANCE
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David,

Have you tried the County GenWeb site for Buffalo?  The coordinator of
the site would have a good idea of what's available and where.

GenWeb is a volunteer organization on the internet that is trying to put
genealogical and historical information on the net for the free use by
researchers.  For New York State's page, a starting point for Buffalo,
go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/

Good luck.

Melissa Simmons
Albany County GenWeb (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyalbany/)


> I'm looking for birth and death dates, and birthplace, of Jesse Clipper,
> the first African-American fatality in World War I. There's a monument to
> him and other blacks who gave their lives in combat, in Buffalo.
>
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Dear David;
According to the WW 1 service cards in the NY State Archives (series =
#B0808), Jesse Clipper was resident at 42 Potter St, Buffalo. He enlisted =
at Colombus, Ohio on 27 Feb 18 at the age of 33 10/12 years (you figure =
his birthday out :)) Born Salt lake City, Utah. Served 317 Engineers. Was =
a Corporal. Died overseas on 21 Feb 19 of pleurisy ad pneumonia. Survived =
by wife in Buffalo. Let me know if you need acopy of the service card.
Bill=20
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>>> David Minor <[log in to unmask]> 04/15 12:39 AM >>>
I'm looking for birth and death dates, and birthplace, of Jesse Clipper,
the first African-American fatality in World War I. There's a monument to
him and other blacks who gave their lives in combat, in Buffalo.

David

David Minor
Eagles Byte Historical Research
Pittsford, New York
716 264-0423
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from
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ATTENTION HUMANITIES SCHOLARS:

The New York Council for the Humanities is looking for YOU to take part =
in its popular speakers' bureau.=20

Since 1983, the "Speakers in the Humanities" program has been bringing =
scholars face-to-face with community groups across New York State. =
Speakers must live or work in New York State. They are expected to =
deliver as many as five presentations a year (all on the same topic). =
They receive an honorarium of $250 per lecture, plus reasonable travel =
expenses.

We are now developing a new roster of lectures for the three-year term =
beginning in 2000.  We seek engaging presentations in nine broad areas: =
"Gotham" (the history of NYC); "The Empire State" (the history of the =
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To all of my correspondents:

It's the silly season again, and virus hoaxes are being spread by
well-meaning, but gullible people.  BEFORE cluttering up the ether
with virus warnings, please do your research.

If there really is a new virus out there that nobody knew about, it
will be reported in the legitimate Computer Press on the internet,
followed by hard copy in your newspaper.  The recent Melissa was such
an example.

An example of the legitimate Computer Press is ZDNET,
available as a subscription channel from the Start button on Win 98, or
at http://www.zdnet.com/

To determine whether or not the virus warning you have received from
your gullible correspondents are real, check them out at:

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html
http://www.kumite.com/myths/
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/bulletins/h-05.shtml

Viruses are real. I use Norton Anti-Virus to protect my system. It
works, but only if you install BEFORE you get a virus.

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DM:

     Have you checked with the Buffalo newspaper.   Some libraries
 carry catalogues of societies and other agencies useful in finding
 certain items.  Have you checked with the Library of Congress on
 books for WWI, and books on Afro-Americans in War.

 Sincerely,

 Richard Swerdlin
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Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 11:48
Subject: Jesse Clipper


>I'm looking for birth and death dates, and birthplace, of Jesse Clipper,
>the first African-American fatality in World War I. There's a monument to
>him and other blacks who gave their lives in combat, in Buffalo.
>
>David
>
>David Minor
>Eagles Byte Historical Research
>Pittsford, New York
>716 264-0423
>[log in to unmask]
>
>
>http://home.eznet.net/~dminor
>
>includes NYNY, a series of timelines covering New York City and State, from
>approximately 450,000,000 BC to 1990 AD.
>
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Thanks to all who responded to my query with suggestions. Bill Evans' post
gave me the info I needed.

I learned of the monument in a 1998 hand-out from the Documentary Heritage
Program in Buffalo. While doing a search on Jesse I noticed that the
Buffalo DHP info is now on line, if anyone wishes to surf on over. A search
on -"Jesse Clipper"AND dhp- should take you to it. The program's designed
to document various ethnic groups in the state and provide information on
past and current events, businesses and servixces.

Thanks again,

David

David Minor
Eagles Byte Historical Research
Pittsford, New York
716 264-0423
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From:         wanda e burch <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      18th century horse-racing

I was sent the above subject/question at Johnson Hall via our e-mail.
The original sender should check the SIR WILLIAM JOHNSON PAPERS,
published throughout the 50s by The University of the State of New York.
Vol. XIV, the index, lists various animals, including horses, and has a
considerable amount of information on fine horses, some of them used for
racing.  In fact, Sir William ordered a horse painting for his 1763
Georgian home, the "portrait" of Goldfinder.

I would like information, if possible, on signing up on the New York
History list.

Thanks--
Wanda Burch
Johnson Hall State Historic Site
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Yahoo! I read the chapter that were important to me. Being the first 4 or 5
chapters and I was impressed.I would love to have that book in my
possession, but unfortunately up in here Canada $60.00 is a lot of money for
only a few chapters. But it was very well written and researched.
Congratulations to you.
Kathy Hoeldke
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> Congratulations to Edwin G. Burrows and Mike Wallace for winning the
> Pulitzer history prize for "Gotham: A History of New York City to 1898!"
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from Nancy Robertson
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I am working on a project to develop a fourth-grade
curriculum using the Hudson-Fulton celebration of
1909 as a way to talk about what life was like
for children at the turn of the century (including
work, transportation, and leisure) as well as themes of
pageants, inventions, discoveries, and explorations.

I am aware of secondary material by Glassberg, Nye,
and McNamara; I have looked at Readers Guide to
Periodical Literature and the New York Times index; I have
done an RLIN search and read materials at Museum
of the City of New York and at New-York Historical.

I am particularly interested in first-hand accounts--
especially those appealing to children--or visuals.
Given that some 1,000,000 people came to NY,
some 2,000,000 people watched the parades,
and some 300,000 children participated in the big and small
pageants, debates, etc. I assume that some people
wrote about it.   Although the focus of my
project is on the festivities in New York City, I
would also be interested in first-hand accounts from
the events as they went up the Hudson River.

Thank you, Nancy Robertson
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There were considerable local festivities in the Albany area.Albany County =
Hall of Records, which holds county and City of Albany archives may have =
some material, the Albany Institute of History and Art and the local Dutch =
Settlers Society may also be resources.

The ruin of the replica Haelve Maen  came to grief on a mudbank in the =
Hudson off Cohoes, New York.=20

>>> Nancy Robertson <[log in to unmask]> 04/19 12:03 PM >>>
from Nancy Robertson
[log in to unmask]

I am working on a project to develop a fourth-grade
curriculum using the Hudson-Fulton celebration of
1909 as a way to talk about what life was like
for children at the turn of the century (including
work, transportation, and leisure) as well as themes of
pageants, inventions, discoveries, and explorations.

I am aware of secondary material by Glassberg, Nye,
and McNamara; I have looked at Readers Guide to
Periodical Literature and the New York Times index; I have
done an RLIN search and read materials at Museum
of the City of New York and at New-York Historical.

I am particularly interested in first-hand accounts--
especially those appealing to children--or visuals.
Given that some 1,000,000 people came to NY,
some 2,000,000 people watched the parades,
and some 300,000 children participated in the big and small
pageants, debates, etc. I assume that some people
wrote about it.   Although the focus of my
project is on the festivities in New York City, I
would also be interested in first-hand accounts from
the events as they went up the Hudson River.

Thank you, Nancy Robertson
[log in to unmask]
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Dear New York History List Serve:

I am currently working on a dissertation project at Oklahoma State
University.  It involves creating a critical edition of an 1807 text by
Mrs. P.D. Manvill called _Lucinda; or, the Mountain Mourner_.  So far I
have found little information on the author.  I don't even know what the
letters "P.D." represent.

I know the Manvills lived in Greenfield (now Greenville), New York, and
that they no longer live in the area.  That's the extent of the
biography so far, I'm afraid.  I need this information for a critical
introduction to the scholarly edition.

I have already checked with the Greenville town historian, Mrs. Mary
Demarco, who was some help.  Also, the Greene County historian gave a
bit of information.  But because Mrs. Manvill was such a minor
author--_Lucinda_ is the only book she wrote, as far as I can
tell--nobody knows much about her in the literary or historical field.

Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

Mischelle Booher
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I realize this is one of those questions that should be
too easy to have to ask, but does any one know the
origins of New York State's nickname as "the Empire
State."  If there is a precise orignator and date, that
would be great, but mostly I am curious as to what
somebody meant by the term.  The explanations I
have come across are more in the lines of "New
York lives up to its nickname of..." but I am wondering
why anyone started calling it that.  Thanks.

Nancy Robertson
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CALL FOR PAPERS

The Valentine Museum, Richmond, VA, is hosting its fourth annual Federal
Forays symposium in March 2000.  This symposium examines different aspects
of the Federal period in America, and particularly in Richmond, Virginia.
Past topics have included "Becoming A Nation" and "Creating an Impression:
The John and Elizabeth Wickham House."

The topic for 2000 is "A Place for Women in the New Nation."

Traditional studies of the Federal period have focused on the domestic
roles of women in the Federal period.  However, rich or poor, many women
held positions outside of the home, whether as a member of a social or
charitable organization, like Richmond's Humane Association, or as a member
of a profession, from midwifery to acting.  We are searching for presenters
who can address specific roles for women in Federal period Virginia or
America.

If you are interested in presenting a paper at this conference, please
provide a one page abstract of your proposed topic, as well as your resume,
to Jennifer Ley, Director of Public Programs, by May 20, 1999.

For more information, call or write to the Valentine.
Valentine Museum 1015 East Clay Street Richmond, VA 23219
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Look at http://www.iloveny.state.ny.us/emblems.html for one explanation.

Philip Lord, Jr.
Acting Chief, Historical Survey
New York State Museum
Albany, NY 12230
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>>> Nancy Robertson <[log in to unmask]> 04/19 6:13 PM >>>
I realize this is one of those questions that should be
too easy to have to ask, but does any one know the
origins of New York State's nickname as "the Empire
State."  If there is a precise orignator and date, that
would be great, but mostly I am curious as to what
somebody meant by the term.  The explanations I
have come across are more in the lines of "New
York lives up to its nickname of..." but I am wondering
why anyone started calling it that.  Thanks.

Nancy Robertson
LaGuardia and Wagner Archives
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Oh I didn't ask for this, but what a wonderful site.  Thank you ,.
Sharon
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investigation was also printed.  I am looking either for other =
contemporary references to the letter or modern scholarly =
interpretations.  So far the only historian I've found who discusses it =
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Thanks very much!

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hello List members,

        I am trying to work out some details regarding New YOrk STate's
REforestation lands. Here in Chicago, I don't have ready access to the
maps and books I
would need to answer this question so I hoped that someone on the list
could possibly help.

        My question concerns specifically the lands within the State's
REforestation program. That is, the program that was established in the
late 1920s in order to
purchase abandoned farm land and plant it with trees. This land was of the
type considered "submarginal" for agricultural purposes and state planners
wanted to reforest it to protect 1)watersheds, 2)provide timber, and
3)prevent
further attempts to farm it. As I recall from research I did several years
ago, the initial plans in the late 1920s were to eventually purchase 2
million acres of land. However, the onset of the Depression meant the
State could not
raise enough money to buy that much land and scaled back to about 1
million acres. (I think they reached this goal by the early 1950s). The
lands were purchased in initial blocks that had to be of a minimal size (I
think it was 500 acres) and then more was added to these blocks as
adjoining
acreage was bought up.  So the 1 million acres of land is not in one
parcel, of course, but scattered across  a number of blocks of land.
        My question is this: what percentage of the the 1 million acres of
state
reforestation land is located within the Appalachian Upland REgion?
        A second question concerns the total of the 2 million acres the
state wanted to purchase, but could not afford to. (This is
hypothetical) Would that other 1
million acres located in more or less the same areas as the 1 million
acres that the state did purchase? That is, the reforestation would
have been in the same areas but the there would have had more and
larger blocks of land.

        I ask these questions because I am wondering if the REforestation
program was targeted at the Appalachian Uplands. (This interest stems
from the paper I am preparing for the New YOrk State history conference
in June). The reforestation program of the 1920s
was part of a general and ongoing  regional and state responses to
the
ecological and conservation  concerns. The Adirondack and Catskill park
systems had already been created by the early part of the century. And, of
course, although state officials
identified some 6 or 7 acres of land in the state as "submarginal", they
were encouraging private reforestation efforts and could expect that some
of
the "submarginal" land was already being allowed to "naturally" reforest.
That is, the land was SO BAD, that no one would continue to attempt to
farm it, and so it was let go to grow to forest.
        I am wondering if the agricultural history of the Appalachian
uplands--and a possible threat of continued attempts at
agriculatural use there--demanded
a more activist approach by the state. And I could infer
that this was the case IF most of the 1 million acres of REforestation
land purchased in the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s was within the Appalachian
Uplands.

        Thanks for considering my questions.

Ian McGiver
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Hi,

Please check out this Internet site relating to
an historical archaeological project focusing on
a Dutch-American farmhouse in Brooklyn, NY.

Thanks,
Chris Ricciardi

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Presenting Archaeology Magazine's first online dig:

At Brooklyn's eighteenth-century Lott House, uncover the buried
past of a Dutch family living on the fringes of the burgeoning city
that would become New York.

1720. The Age of Reason.Wigs are the rage.Women's necklines
dip scandalously. There is no Declaration of Independence, no
Constitution. No Thomas Jefferson. No Brooklyn Bridge. Bluebeard
sails the stormy seas. And more than one tree grows in Brooklyn.
There, in the Flatlands area, a well-to-do Dutch family by the name
of Lott builds a modest home on their new farm. In 300 years, that
modest home grows into a 22-room manse, and all the time the
same family calls the place home. In the 1980s, only one resident
remains. When she dies, the ancestral home is empty for the first
time since before World War I, before the Civil War, before the
American Revolution. In eight years, the house that withstood 300
years of use is crumbling, and the property on which it stood has
become a jungle. The land remains an archaeological gold mine,
a microcosm of change over three centuries.

Join our interactive dig and help Brooklyn College's team of
archaeologists unearth:

Servant Quarters:
If the Lotts were in the avant-garde of the abolitionist movement (they
released their slaves years before the Emancipation Proclamation), did
their philosophy affect the treatment of their servants and slaves?

A Tennis Court:
Images of the Great Gatsby come into focus as you help locate the Lotts'
tennis court.

An Old Well:
Are either of two circular depressions on the property the site of a former
well?

On Archaeology's virtual dig:

* Keep up-to-the-minute on excavation with total access to field notes.
Coming in June.

* Argue for an additional trench by the back shed. Explain why you don't
think a strange clay tube from the trench by the porch is a pipe stem after
all. Question methodology. Propose new lines of inquiry. When you
contribute to our on-line bulletin board, you are in direct contact with
the excavators.

* Meet an expert in faunal analysis who will discuss what animals the Lotts
ate, what animals they raised, and how to tell the difference.

* Listen to oral histories recalling the old days at the Lott House. Coming
soon.

* Play detective as you search family wills, probates, deeds, and other
sources to discover clues about the family's way of life.

* Interpret these mystery objects. We can only guess what these artifacts
may once have been used for.

* Learn to handle the tools of the trade.

* Grab your trowel and enter our simulated test pit. Follow along with our
trench side stratigraphy lesson as the stone kitchen emerges.

www.archaeology.org

for more information, contact Elizabeth Himelfarb at 212-732-5154, x.12
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Hi,<br>
<br>
Please check out this Internet site relating to <br>
an historical archaeological project focusing on<br>
a Dutch-American farmhouse in Brooklyn, NY.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Chris Ricciardi<br>
<br>
------<br>
<br>
Presenting Archaeology Magazine's first online dig:<br>
<br>
At Brooklyn's eighteenth-century Lott House, uncover the buried <br>
past of a Dutch family living on the fringes of the burgeoning city
<br>
that would become New York.<br>
<br>
1720. The Age of Reason.Wigs are the rage.Women's necklines <br>
dip scandalously. There is no Declaration of Independence, no <br>
Constitution. No Thomas Jefferson. No Brooklyn Bridge. Bluebeard <br>
sails the stormy seas. And more than one tree grows in Brooklyn. <br>
There, in the Flatlands area, a well-to-do Dutch family by the name
<br>
of Lott builds a modest home on their new farm. In 300 years, that <br>
modest home grows into a 22-room manse, and all the time the <br>
same family calls the place home. In the 1980s, only one resident <br>
remains. When she dies, the ancestral home is empty for the first <br>
time since before World War I, before the Civil War, before the <br>
American Revolution. In eight years, the house that withstood 300 <br>
years of use is crumbling, and the property on which it stood has <br>
become a jungle. The land remains an archaeological gold mine, <br>
a microcosm of change over three centuries.<br>
<br>
Join our interactive dig and help Brooklyn College's team of <br>
archaeologists unearth: <br>
<br>
Servant Quarters: <br>
If the Lotts were in the avant-garde of the abolitionist movement (they
<br>
released their slaves years before the Emancipation Proclamation), did
<br>
their philosophy affect the treatment of their servants and slaves?
<br>
<br>
A Tennis Court: <br>
Images of the Great Gatsby come into focus as you help locate the Lotts'
<br>
tennis court. <br>
<br>
An Old Well: <br>
Are either of two circular depressions on the property the site of a
former <br>
well?<br>
<br>
On Archaeology's virtual dig: <br>
<br>
* Keep up-to-the-minute on excavation with total access to field notes.
<br>
Coming in June. <br>
<br>
* Argue for an additional trench by the back shed. Explain why you don't
<br>
think a strange clay tube from the trench by the porch is a pipe stem
after <br>
all. Question methodology. Propose new lines of inquiry. When you <br>
contribute to our on-line bulletin board, you are in direct contact with
<br>
the excavators. <br>
<br>
* Meet an expert in faunal analysis who will discuss what animals the
Lotts <br>
ate, what animals they raised, and how to tell the difference. <br>
<br>
* Listen to oral histories recalling the old days at the Lott House.
Coming <br>
soon. <br>
<br>
* Play detective as you search family wills, probates, deeds, and other
<br>
sources to discover clues about the family's way of life. <br>
<br>
* Interpret these mystery objects. We can only guess what these artifacts
<br>
may once have been used for. <br>
<br>
* Learn to handle the tools of the trade. <br>
<br>
* Grab your trowel and enter our simulated test pit. Follow along with
our <br>
trench side stratigraphy lesson as the stone kitchen emerges.<br>
<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><u><a href="http://www.archaeology.org/" eudora="autourl">www.archaeology.org<br>
<br>
</a></font></u>for more information, contact Elizabeth Himelfarb at
212-732-5154, x.12 <br>
Archaeology Magazine * 135 William Street * New York, NY 10038<br>
<br>
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I am looking for pictures of Robert H. Treman State Park - Enfield and
Ithaca.  I am mainly interested in finding a picture of the Enfield Falls
Hotel which once located at the park.  I was told that during 1930-40, a
brochure was done by the park and had a picture of the hotel in it.  If
anyone has such a picture and wants to share this with me it would be
greatly appreciated.  We would like to use it in our upcoming Enfield
History Book.  thank You.
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Hi Ian,

Don't know if this helps with your questions, but the State did another big
purchase in the late 1950's and early 1960's. This, if my memory is correct,
consisted of some 75,000 acres of land spread across New York. I worked in
what was called Forest District # 4 out of the New York State Conservation
Department office in Bath, New York during the early 1960's. I did forest
inventory on a good deal of the land we held from previous purchases, making
recommendations for harvesting, planting, checking on past plantings, etc. I
also worked on some of the surveying of the new lands purchased. In the back
of my mind it seems that the number of acres purchased in District # 4 was in
the area of 20,000 acres and my memory is also that all of this adjoined
current holdings.

It was the best investment the State of New York ever made in my opinion.
Much of the land was purchased for under $10 per acre.

If any of this is helpful and you need more information that I could supply,
feel free to contact me. I am in e-mail contact with at least one other guy
who worked in this program.

Les Buell
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I can only address the Northern quarter of the State, as that is where I
live and am familiar with. Appalachian uplands is not a term used in these
parts. First, realize that the Adirondack Park is not like other parks. To
this day the State owns less than half of the land contained in the park.
They continue to purchase privately owned lands as they become available
and they have money. They also purchase conservation easements.
Reforstation around here did include some 'submarginal' farmlands. At
times this meant plots of land that were too small or fields that were too
scattered to constitute an economically viable unit for farming. The size
of a farm that is viable has grown continuously over the years. But much
of the land that was purchased inside the park had been 'pulped over' or
clearcut for papermaking. At times this land was farmed for a few years,
but the soil was thin and susceptible to erosion, so was usually abandoned
within a generation. Most of the reforestation occurred in the thirties,
with the labor supplied by the CCC's, or Civilian Conservation Corps. They
planted vast tracts as well as 50-200 acre ones. Not all of the land
planted belonged to the State. County lands were also planted. Virtually
all were planted to pine, although there are also some tamarac and other
plantings. Tamaracs are an interesting tree in that while they are
conifers (have needles for leaves and produce seeds in cones) they are not
evergreen. In the fall the needles turn yellow and fall off. Outside the
Park, some of the lands that were reforested were wetlands, or lands that
had wetlands sprinkled through them. For the lands outside the park, the
timber these plantings produces is still a major economic boost to the
region. Within the park, much of the land is in a land use catagory that
precludes cutting or removing and trees (Forever Wild).
Hope this helps.
Wayne

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        Re Nancy Robertson's question regarding the origin of the nickname "Empire
State.
Nancy, you are wrong in thinking this is an easy question to answer.  It is
about as easy as asking for the origin of the nickname "The Big Apple" for
New York City.  There are lots of guesses, none easy to validate, and
probably all right or wrong.
        I have spent considerable time researching the origin of the term "Empire
State" for a new History of New York State which I have been editing for
five years under the auspices of the New York State Historical Association.
 The long manuscript is now being read by a press.  There are six authors,
covering various chronological periods.  I, too, naively asked the author
of the section, 1820 -- 1860 to include a brief footnote as to how the term
originated. He had difficulty, so I began researching it.  There are
various explanations, none satisfactory.
        One explanation is that George Washington first originated the phrase.
The editors of the Washington Papers tell me that on April 10, 1785,
Washington sent as an enclosure  to New York City mayor James Duane his
reply to an earlier address that Duane had sent to Washington on December
16, 1784.  In it Washington referred to New York State as "the Seat of the
Empire." Note: he did not use the phrase "Empire State."  Someone else
volunteered that Washington in the 1790s was at Saratoga Springs and
traveled to Little Falls where he noted that the Mohawk Valley  and River
were natural gateways to the West, whereupon he told Governor Clinton that
New York State was a "Pathway to Empire."  Again, note, he did not use the
phrase "Empire State."  There was no source given to this speculative
answer to my question.
        In Volume 6 of Alexander Flick's multivolume history of New York State,
the concluding chapter is entitled :New York Becomes the Empire State,
noting on p. 319 that as early as 1819 New York was being referred to as
the "Empire State" because its population had exceeded that of Virginia,
but no source is given. Flick added that by the time the Erie Canal was
completed, the name Empire State was universally acknowledged and accepted.
(No source given for this statement).  In 1849, a book was written by one
R. L. Christopher called an "Empire State Book of Practical Forms" and in
1872, a Mrs. S.S. Colt authored a travel book entitled "The Tourist's Guide
to the Empire State." In 1888,  Benson J. Lossing entitled his book "The
Empire State: A Compendious History of the Commonwealth of New York."  In
1891, the New York Central introduced a fast train between New York City
and Buffalo and called it "The Empire State Express."
        David Ellis wrote an article in NEW YORK HISTORY, Vol. LVI (1975) entitled
"Rise of the Empire State," but he does not give the origin of the term..
Another  explanation is that New York City first began being called the
"Empire City" because of its commercial ascendancy after the completion of
the Erie Canal, and the state adopted the name from the city.
        From my view, the last word was said by Paul Eldridge in a book titled
CROWN OF
EMPIRE: THE STORY OF NEW YORK STATE (1957) where on page 14, he raised the
question humorously: "Who was the merry wag who crowned the State. . .(as
the Empire State)?  New York would certainly raise a monument to his
memory, but he made his grandiose gesture and vanished forever."
        Nancy: If anyone gives you a better or more authoritative answer to this
question, please let me know and I will put it in the book.

Milton M. Klein, University of Tennessee, Knoxville (office e-mail
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The Papers of Jacob Leisler Project, currently under the direction of Dr.
David William Voorhees at New York University, has signed an agreement with
Professor A. G. Roeber of the Department of History/Max Kade
German-American Research Institute at the Pennsylvania State University and
Professor Dr. Hermann Wellenreuther of Georgia-Augusta University,
Goettingen, Germany, to work as co-editors in  a cooperative and
collaborative effort to bring to completion the publication of the papers
of Jacob Leisler in print and digitalized, photographic, or other media=
 forms.

The proliferation of Leisler documents in German, French, Latin, Dutch, and
English, as well as a paper trail that extends from the courts of the
German states and the banking houses of Switzerland, Italy, and Holland to
the slave pens of Cura=E7ao and Surinam and the tobacco plantations of the
Chesapeake, not to mention North Africa and Sumatra in the East Indies, has
made a rapid completion of the project beyond the ability of one person to
handle alone.  It is hoped that a collaborative effort between the three
editors and their respective research teams will more rapidly make these
valuable documents accessible to scholars and the public.

David William Voorhees
Editor
Papers of Jacob Leisler=20
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:06:30 -0400
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From:         David Allen <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Cornell Digital Library
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     I just had occasion to look at the new "books" section of Cornell
University's Making of America Web site <http://moa.cit.cornell.edu>.  This will
definitely interest many subscribers to this list.  Of the 109 books they have
digitized, over half deal directly with the history of New York State.  Many
nineteenth century town and county histories are included.  Check it out!