You might wish to contact Michael Musick, military reference
archivist/Civil War specialist at the Textual Reference Branch
(NNR1-M), National Archives, Washington, DC 20408. I'd suggest
either writing to that address, or telephoning (202) 501-5385.
Claire Prechtel-Kluskens
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National Archives
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While researching the military service record of one Barney
Vedder (Private, 18th New York Volunteers) for a patron, I came
across the following citation which has me perplexed. Apparently,
Barney didn't take too well to combat and consequently he was "Sent
to Rips Raps for cowardice for term of enlistment." Does anybody
have any idea as to what "Rip Raps" refers? I can find no mention to
such a location in the standard
Civil War reference works. . . . .
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Associate Archivist
New York State Archives
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I too was searching for the quaintly named Rip Raps - and happened to come
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While researching the military service record of one Barney
Vedder (Private, 18th New York Volunteers) for a patron, I came
across the following citation which has me perplexed.
Apparently, Barney didn't take too well to combat and
consequently he was "Sent to Rips Raps for cowardice for term of
enlistment." Does anybody have any idea as to what "Rip Raps"
refers? I can find no mention to such a location in the standard
Civil War reference works. More intriguing is the fact that rip
rap is crushed stone used in construction projects. For example,
large quantities of rip rap was used for the various enlargements
of New York's canal system during the 1850s, 1860s, and 1870s.
Is it possible, that instead of a place, the citation refers to
Vedder's actual means of punishment--breaking big rocks into
little rocks which was a traditional military punishment? I'd
appreciate any thoughts or ideas on this subject.
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Associate Archivist
New York State Archives
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I've heard the term rip-rap having to do with the embankment protection placed
on a water-way (rivers, etc.) to retard erosion. I imagine that anyone required
/forced to place this material along southern waterways would have received
quite a punishment. With Snakes, Alligators, misquitoes, heat, and humity it
would be pretty awful.
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>Daniel Lorello ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
>While researching the military service record of one Barney
>Vedder (Private, 18th New York Volunteers) <big snip> Does anybody have any
idea as to what "Rip Raps"
>refers? I can find no mention to such a location in the standard
>Civil War reference works.
There is a geographic Rip Raps in Virginia, near Old Point Comfort, but up a
ways toward Poquoson. At what time was Pvt. Vedder sent? Did 18th NYVI serve
during Peninsula Campaign ('62) or even later with the Army of the James
('64)? Only a vague thought... Joe Hennessy (Honolulu)
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This is not precisely an answer to the question about Jubilee Day in
NYS in 1827, but...
There was a celebration among African-Americans and Dutch in the Hudson
Valley in the Colonial period known as "Pinkster." I recall a paper on
this at one of the Conferences on New York State History a few years ago
possibly by a grad student at Binghamton which I seem to recall had some
references to changes in the custom at the time of New York emancipation.
Sorry I don't have a better reference.
In later years, at least in the 1840s and 1850s, and probably earlier,
abolitionists and blacks celebrated West Indian Emancipation in early
August each year. There does seem to have been a point in celebrating
that date rather than commemorating July 4th which was emancipation day
for NYS but also a national celebration for a country that still
legitimated slavery in national if not all state policy.
You might also try the papers of the New York Manumission Society,
the full name is actually the "New York Society for Promoting the
Manumission of Slaves, and Protecting Such of Them as have been, or
may be liberated." The originals are in the New York Historical
Society but they have been microfilmed and you may be able to borrow
the microfilm though interlibrary loan. The Manumission Society was
closely associated with the African Free School in NYC, and there
was at times an issue of the Manumission Society's attitude toward
the free black community in NYC-- see for example, articles by John
L. Ruty in Phylon in 1983 and 1985.
Christopher Densmore
University Archives, State University of New York at Buffalo
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NEW ENGLAND ARCHIVISTS
SPRING MEETING 1996
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APRIL 26-27, 1996
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FRIDAY, APRIL 26, 1996 - WORKSHOPS, RECEPTION
9:00 - 5:00 NEA Workshop I: Manuscript Processing Fundamentals
1:00 - 5:00 NEA Workshop II: Archives Exhibits on a Shoestring Budget
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9:00 - 10:30 MORNING SESSIONS
ELECTRONIC RECORDS: PARTNERSHIPS IN THE ELECTRONIC ENVIRONMENT
In an electronic environment, archivists must develop partnerships,
including those with non-traditional entities outside the archives, in
order to effectively address electronic records. The speakers will
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manage business processes which are increasingly done electronically,
building partnerships with the federal government through an
inter-governmental records project which in turn shaped how a partnership
was forged with municipal government, and how functional analysis within a
state government helped identify non-traditional partners in creating an
electronic records program. In contrast, the session moderator will
discuss the role of manuscript curators in the electronic age and offer a
challenge to his manuscript colleagues: if institutional archivists are
building alliances and taking other steps to address new information
technologies, what are manuscript curators doing?
Kathryn Hammond-Baker, Massachusetts Archives
Helen Samuels, Institute Archives, MIT
Gregory Sanford, Vermont State Archives
Philip Cronenwett, Dartmouth College Library (moderator)
ARCHIVES, MUSEUMS AND MULTIMEDIA
Interactive multimedia provides new and challenging possibilities for the
use of archival and museum collections. The development of an application,
whether it's a stand-alone CD-ROM or an exhibit on the World Wide Web,
requires a cooperative effort and interdisciplinary teamwork between
archivists, curators, educators, scholars and programmers. In this
session, speakers will offer their different perspectives on planning for
and developing multimedia applications and discuss, as well as demonstrate,
the use of archival and museum resources in documenting the subjects of
their projects: Native American culture, the art and architecture of
ancient Greece, and the history of technology.
Kathy Jones-Garmil, Peabody Museum, Harvard University
Maria Daniels, The Perseus Project, Tufts University
Joyce Bedi, Lemelson Center for the Study of Invention and
Innovation, National Museum of American History
Kara Schneiderman, The MIT Museum (moderator)
LEGAL ISSUES IN PHOTOGRAPHIC COLLECTIONS: RIGHTS AND REPRODUCTIONS
The development of photographic reproduction policies and procedures for
the use of visual collections in archives and museums is a topic of much
debate, with questions frequently arising as to licensing arrangements, use
agreements and appropriate fee structures. Session speakers will discuss
photographic reproduction policies for outside use of collections at their
respective institutions, provide general suggestions for how these policies
can be developed, and present an overview of the Museum Education Site
Licensing Program, which focuses on the educational use of museum images
and information on college and university campus-wide networks. Session
attendees who would like to bring 30-50 copies of their own reproduction
policies and related forms for distribution are encouraged to do so.
Lorna Condon, Society for the Preservation of New England Antiquities
Mary Anne Stets, Mystic Seaport Museum
Andrea Notman, Harvard University Art Museums
Ruth Thomasian, Project SAVE (moderator)
10:30 - 11:00 NEA BUSINESS MEETING
11:00 - 2:00 VENDOR SHOWCASE
Boyle Associates, Boston Photo Imaging, Bridgeport National Bindery, Cuadra
Associates, Inc., Digital Collections, Inc., Hollinger Corporation, New
England Archives Center, Spaulding Company, Inc.
11:30 - 12:30 MINI-WORKSHOP: INTRODUCTION TO THE INTERNET I
In an hour-long workshop, instructors will introduce participants with
little or no Internet experience to the wonderful world of cyberspace.
Find out exactly what the Internet is and where it can take you. Workshop
participants will learn the basics of Internet addresses, electronic mail,
telnet, file transfer, gopher, and the World Wide Web. This hands-on,
intensive session will also provide time to browse archival and museum
resources on the World Wide Web. Previous Internet experience is not
necessary; however, a basic knowledge of computers is required. Enrollment
is limited to 8 participants per workshop.
The workshop will be repeated at 1:15 and 4:15.
Instructor: Richard Voos, Babson College
12:30 - 1:30 LUNCHEON BUFFET
1:30 - 2:15 OPTIONAL TOUR OF BABSON MAP AND GLOBE MUSEUM
1:15 - 2:15 MINI-WORKSHOP: INTRODUCTION TO THE INTERNET II
Instructor: George Hart, Babson College
2:30 - 4:00 AFTERNOON SESSIONS
AUTOMATED ACCESS TO FINDING AIDS
The MARC AMC Format is an accepted archival standard and using it is often
the first step institutions of all sizes take toward automation, even if
they don't have their own MARC database. Using Standard Generalized
Mark-up Language to tag the full text of finding aids could become standard
practice, but what is SGML and how does it work? This session will attempt
to address the needs and interests of archivists of repositories of all
sizes and technological capabilities. One speaker will discuss the Vermont
Archives Network's shared database of MARC AMC records and VAN's related
projects. Two others, from the Harvard Digital Finding Aids Project, will
unravel some of the mystery surrounding SGML. Participants in other MARC
AMC and SGML projects are encouraged to attend and bring information about
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Polly Darnell, Shelburne Museum
Jean Cargill, Botany Libraries, Harvard University
Susan von Salis, Schlesinger Library, Radcliffe College
Kim Brookes, Radcliffe College (moderator)
THE ETHICS OF ELECTRONIC ACCESS
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access." As the gap between archivists and researchers who have access and
those who do not widens, archivists face a new array of problems in their
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wise decisions about the extent of our Internet commitments? Each member
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panel encourages audience members to bring to the discussion concrete
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questions, and hopes to have a frank discussion of the problems as well as
the rewards of electronic access.
Bruce Stark, Dodd Archives Center, University of Connecticut
Speakers to be announced
Diane Ducharme, Beinecke Library, Yale University
LEGAL ISSUES IN PHOTOGRAPHIC COLLECTIONS: COPYRIGHT
Legal issues that come into play in the management of photographic
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visual collections find more and more usage in digitization projects, both
within the repository and outside, additional complexities arise. The
speakers will provide a general overview on copyright in the context of
photographic collections from the point of view of a librarian, lawyer and
library school instructor, and discuss copyright issues encountered in
putting digital images on the Internet.
Arlene Bielefield, Southern Connecticut State University
Peter Nelson, Thomas Jefferson University
Barbara Austen, Fairfield Historical Society (moderator)
4:15 - 5:15 DEMONSTRATIONS OF HORN LIBRARY ONLINE SERVICES;
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5:00 CLOSING RECEIPTION IN THE HORN GALLERY WITH
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On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Christopher Densmore wrote:
> This is not precisely an answer to the question about Jubilee Day in
> NYS in 1827, but...
>
> There was a celebration among African-Americans and Dutch in the Hudson
> Valley in the Colonial period known as "Pinkster." I recall a paper on
> this at one of the Conferences on New York State History a few years ago
> possibly by a grad student at Binghamton which I seem to recall had some
> references to changes in the custom at the time of New York emancipation.
> Sorry I don't have a better reference.
I don't know the entire context of this inquiry, but if you are wondering
about "Pinkstersdag" and its meaning for the colonial Dutch, this is
simply what the British call "Whitsunday" or what is celebrated in North
America as "Pentecost Sunday" (the seventh Sunday after Easter I believe).
Pinkstersdag (literally "Pinkster Day", and nothing to do with the color
pink) is still celebrated in the Netherlands (my Dutch roots are showing).
What was made of this holiday by the colonists or African-Americans in
later times I have no idea.
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WAL-MART PLANS TO BUILD ON ANCIENT MOHICAN SITE
Walmart wants to build a store on an undisturbed Mohican site called Leeds
Flats dating back 5,000 years in the Town of Leeds in New York State. They
do not want to permit a thorough archaelogical dig, which would give the
Mohicans invaluable information on their history and culture, much of which
has been lost since the coming of the Europeans. The remains of a child
have also been found at the site. Wal-Mart advertises itself as being
family-oriented, yet they want to stop Native Americans, who are typically
very family-oriented, from learning more about their families. After tribal
members visited the site and staged a protest rally garnering much press
coverage December 1995, the Mohican tribe agreed to join the Greene County
group It's Not Easy Being Greene in a lawsuit against the Town of Leeds,
claiming it illegally approved the environmental impact statement when it
was not complete and rezoning the historic area. It is well-known that
Leeds Flats was the site of a Mohican village and also a flood plain. No
plans were submitted for dealing with the flood plain. It flooded to 30
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Pinkster is still a public holiday in the Netherlands. In modern Dutch it is called 'Pinksteren'.
I don't know when the suffix -en was added. There is some literature on this custom
among the Dutch in North America:
Shane White, "Pinkster in Albany, 1803: a contemporary description". In: New York History 70 (1989), 191-199.
Renee Newman, "Pinkster and slavery in Dutch New York". In: De Halve Maen 66 (1993), 1-8.
James H. Pickering, "Fenimore Cooper and Pinkster". In: New York Folklore Quarterly 22 (1966), 15-19.
"Pinkster Ode, Albany, 1803". In: New York Folklore Quarterly 8 (1952), 31-45.
Jaap Jacobs
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Ian McGiver of U Chicago recently queried the list to identify the Schoharie
lands of the Mott family c1804. The best quick reference on matters of this
nature is a volume entitled _Calendar of N.Y. Colonial Manuscripts --
Indorsed Land Papers 1643-1803_ by E. B. O'Callaghan (Harrison, NY: Harbor
Hill Books, 1987[reprint]).
This 1100-page book was originally compiled in 1864 and has an index of over
10,000 names relating to land transactions in the Province of New York and
Loyalist sequestrations following the Revolution. Available from Purple
Mountain Press, Box E-3, Fleischmanns, NY 12430 914 254-4062.
In the case of the above query, there are nine different Motts indexed.
David G Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
Glengarry Historical Society - 1784
Williamstown, Ontario, Canada K0C 2J0
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This story is featured in the current issue of Historic Preservation, the
magazine of the National Trust for Historic Places.
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WAL-MART PLANS TO BUILD ON ANCIENT MOHICAN SITE
Walmart wants to build a store on an undisturbed Mohican site called Leeds
Flats dating back 5,000 years in the Town of Leeds in New York State. They
do not want to permit a thorough archaelogical dig, which would give the
Mohicans invaluable information on their history and culture, much of which
has been lost since the coming of the Europeans. The remains of a child
have also been found at the site. Wal-Mart advertises itself as being
family-oriented, yet they want to stop Native Americans, who are typically
very family-oriented, from learning more about their families. After tribal
members visited the site and staged a protest rally garnering much press
coverage December 1995, the Mohican tribe agreed to join the Greene County
group It's Not Easy Being Greene in a lawsuit against the Town of Leeds,
claiming it illegally approved the environmental impact statement when it
was not complete and rezoning the historic area. It is well-known that
Leeds Flats was the site of a Mohican village and also a flood plain. No
plans were submitted for dealing with the flood plain. It flooded to _3_
feet one time this winter. This historical, sacred site must be preserved.
Please join me in sending e-mail protests to the Letters to the President at
[log in to unmask] or write letters to the people listed below. They only
have an option to buy the property. If we apply pressure, maybe they will
pull out.
Key People at Wal-Mart
S. Robson Walton, Chairman
Donald G. Soderquist, VC and COO
David D. Blass, President and CEO
William R. Fields, President and CEO, Wal-Mart Stores Division
Joseph S. Hardin, EVP, COO, Wal-Mart Stores Division
John B. Menzer, EVP and CFO
Nicholas J. White, EVP Supercenter Division
Headquarters Address: Bentonville, AR 72716
Phone: 501-273-4000
Fax: 501-273-8650
Debra Winchell, Melrose, NY, [log in to unmask]
This is solely my opinion, but I hope not for long.
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NEW YORK STATE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT DATA AVAILABLE ONLINE
The Institutional Master File (IMF), a component of the
New York State Education Department's Basic Educational
Data System (BEDS), is now available for downloading from
the NYS Archives' anonymous ftp directory. Also
available online is a users' guide designed to facilitate
access to information contained in the IMF. Both the
data and the guide can be accessed via the Archives' web
page at:
http://www.sara.nysed.gov/pubs/erguides/imfgde.htm
Researchers may also go directly to the ftp directory at:
ftp://ftp.sara.nysed.gov/pub/beds
The IMF contains data on each school district, public and
private school building, and intermediate district (Board
of Cooperative Educational Services--BOCES) in New York.
Individual records provide institution identifiers and
statistics on enrollment, staffing, and special
educational programs. Files are available for each
school year, 1967-1981, and contain four record types:
public school, private school, school district, and
BOCES. Annual files contain an average of 7200 records;
the size of the records varies. Please NOTE: The IMF does not
contain personal identifiers for individual students or faculty
members.
The IMF is divided in the NYS Archives' ftp directory
into 15 files, each representing a single school year.
The Archives has used both the pkzip and gzip utilities
to compress the files. These compressed files range in
size from 846 to 1213 kilobytes.
The Users' Guide to the IMF includes the following
features: 1) a technical requirement sheet summarizing
the file structure, distribution formats, record count,
and hardware and software specifications; 2) an
historical overview of the development of the system
which contains information on the original uses of the
data; 3) a description of data collection methods; 4
codebooks defining all data elements; and 5) file layouts
illustrating the structure of each record.
For more information about the IMF and other records in
the Archives' custody, researchers may contact:
New York State Archives
Cultural Education Center Room 11D40
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Telephone: (518) 474-8955
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A graduate student at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, is
interested in learning something about a New York City printer named John
Wiley (1808-1891). Can anyone provide some sources for this individual and
his work?
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The Brooklyn Public Library has copies of this newspaper.
On Mon, 26 Feb 1996 [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Dear folks,
> Does anyone have access to the Brooklyn, NY Eagle newspaper articles and
> obituaries from Jan. 2, 1844 through Jan 30, 1844 or can tell me where I can
> rent or get the microfilm through inter-library loan?
>
> I am looking for info on the death of David Worth Hinman who died Jan. 2,
> 1844, age 23, at the home of his brother, Grove Porter Hinman in Brooklyn,
> NY.
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> I"d pay for any copies, parking, reasonable research time involved if someone
> could look up the information for me.
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> Thanks
> Barbara Benjamin
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Re John Wiley
Wiley, one hundred and seventy five years of publishing. Moore, John Hammond.
New York: Wiley, c1982
John Wiley & Sons (New York Publishers)
This may be a beginning point for research.
Beverly Vander Kooy
University at Buffalo Libraries
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Another source on the Mott family you may find useful is Thomas
C. Cornell, ADAM AND ANNE MOTT: THEIR ANCESTORS AND DESCENDANTS
Poughkeepsie: A.V. Haight, 1890. This is primarily a genealogy,
but also includes some rather lengthy extracts from family
letters, diaries, etc. I don't have ready access to the book, so
don't know if it has anything useful to your particular question,
but I've used it my research on Quaker history and found it
quite useful as background on the various Quaker Motts of New
York State.
Christopher Densmore
University Archives, State University of New York at Buffalo
420 Capen Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260-2200
Phone: (716) 645-2916 Fax: (716) 645-3844
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The reference to John Wiley, a printer, could be linked with the
current and very old John Wiley Inc., a publisher. They do have a
Webpage that notes that the firm was founded in 1807 and that the
founder's son, John, took over in 1826.
Their address is: 605 Third Avenue New York, NY 10158
Telephone (212) 850-6000. E-mail address: [log in to unmask]
Bruce Monblatt
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My thanks to Beverly Vander Kooy and Bruce Monblatt for their
speedy and helpful response to my inquiry about John Wiley.ZZZZ
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Consider the Source: Historical Records in the Classroom is a
new 146-page book published by the New York State Archives and
Records Administration. It is designed to help records repositories
provide access to historical records for educators and help educators
develop the skills necessary for locating, researching and using
historical records in the classroom. The book contains high quality
reproductions of 26 historical records accompanied by ready-to-use
lesson plans and worksheets. The records date from the 1790s to the
1960s and include: land grants to Revolutionary War veterans, a
broadside announcing a celebration for the opening of the Erie Canal, a
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Hello,
Does anyone know whether the manuscript schedules of the 1798 Federal
Direct Tax assessment rolls exist for New York State?
I know that assessment rolls exist for some states, or portions thereof.
I am specifically interested in the schedules that would have
covered the Town of Middleburgh in Schoharie County.
I have done OCLC and RLIN searches, and I identified schedules for
other states, but none for New York. (This is the only searching I have
done so far.)
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I am writing a history of the Town of Fairfield and would like to include a
chapter on Fairfield men who served in the Civil War. I thought it would be
an easy matter to get a list of names. What I found was different lists,
names that sounded as if they were from other towns, lists that didn't agree,
and other discrepancies. To make matters even more confusing, several
students and faculty mambers from the Fairfield Academy volunteered and it's
difficult to tell if they were residents, but I do want to include them. I
tried the local historical societies and their lists seemed to have problems.
I have New York in the War of the Rebellion, but it doesn't include
privates. Is there an accurate listing of volunteers by township? Most of
the locals were in Company C of the 121st Regiment, Company F of the 152nd
Regiment, Company C of the 34th Regiment and a few assorted ones who signed
up with other groups. Any suggestions on how to proceed will be greatly
appreciated. Thank you. Jane Dieffenbacher
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Are you referring to John Wiley & Sons, the publishers of professional books?
I think the archives of Publishers Weekly might have something good on that.
I used to be an Associate Editor there a long time ago and they always ran
wonderful articles on publishing history. If not PW, see if Chandler
Grannis, their former editor, is still around or contact The American
Booksellers Association in NYC.
Pat Farrell
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I've got the book "Plunkitt of Tamany Hall" by Reardon; called the N.Y.
Historical Society to see if they had any of his papers but they said
nothing was archived; any leads would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Patt Bromberger, President, S.O.F.E.D. U.P. - [log in to unmask]
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Thanks to Patricia Farrell for her response to my inquiry about John
Wiley, the publisher.
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LAST OF THE MOHICANS ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE TO BE DESTROYED
A historic, cultural resource of National importance is about to be
destroyed by an electric utility in Lake George, New York. This site should
have been recommended to the National Register as a National Historic Site,
however, this did not take place. The contract archaeologist that mitigated
the property is Jeanette Collamer of Collamer and Associates. Why was this
property not eligible for the Historic Register?
A site is eligible for the National Register if it meets just one or
more of the following criteria: (New York Archaeological Council, article 3.1)
1. Associated with events that have made a significant contribution to
the broad patterns of our history.
2. Associated with the lives of persons significant in our past.
3. Embodies the distinctive characteristics of a type or period
4. Has yielded, or may be likely to yield, information in prehistory
or history.
The Lake George historic site meets all of the previous criteria that would
enable it to be eligible for the National Register. It is significant in the
history and culture of New York State as well as the Nation.
The chronological date of this archaeological site is personified by
the movie, The Last of the Mohicans, starring Daniel Day-Lewis as Hawkeye.
The year is 1757 and the battle is raging between the French and English at
Fort William Henry. The French general, the Marquis de Montcalm has 10,000
troops at his disposal. Montcalm sends one of his officers, de Levis, to
occupy the elevated ground to the west. Obedient, de Levis positions his
troops on the high ground above the British fort and away from the swamps.
This location is ideal for the encampment of a large number of soldiers.
Clear water is available from a small stream at the base of this rocky
promontory for swabbing down the cannon and for drinking purposes. In
addition, the land is extremely steep on several sides of this defensive
position. This elevated ground would hinder a frontal assault by the
British troops; an attack would be suicidal. The terrain is ideal for de
Levis to set his mortars in place. The cannon are positioned on this uplifted
portion of the landscape, one hundred feet or so above the fort. The battle
is already won because of the topography of this location. The cannon and
mortars pulverize the English position. Fort William Henry is battered into
submission with relentless abandon and loss of life. The Marquis de
Montcalm is victorious this day; the British are defeated at Lake George and
Fort William Henry is burned.
This archaeological site is a pristine historical property. The land
has never been corrupted by the plow or disturbed by man since the French and
Indian War. When the duff layer of pine needles and debris is peeled back on
your excavation units, you have an artifact record of unparalleled
provenience. The feelings that you experience from the material remains takes
you back to the battlefield; you imagine you are at the battle of Lake George.
The landscape is scattered with subsurface remains of hearths, storage pits,
gun parts, coins, lead shot, French flint, brass buttons, cookingware, chunks
of burned wood embedded with handwrought copper nails, contact and woodland
projectile points and human bone fragments.
The most prominent features on this site are the mortar entrenchments.
There are twenty plus mortar pits averaging twelve to fifteen feet in
diameter. The entranceways to these entrenchments are still visible and are
orientated southward from the depressions. Over the years, local residents
have dumped trash in the pits and this has helped to maintain the pristine
integrity of the site. At the bottom of these features, archaeological
litter is commonplace. Artifacts such as pieces of cannon barshot, shattered
artillery implements, and large fragments of burned wood from the fixed
timbered beds of the mortars are typical. These pits will be destroyed.
Where else in New York State do you have mortar entrenchments from the French
and Indian that are still distinguishable and archaeologically intact?
Next to the mortar pits on the property, you can view the original
military road that was built by the British to service Fort William Henry.
The road travels adjacent to the mortar site and parallel to Lake George. At
a point north of this location, the route exhausts itself between the high
ground and the swamps. It then takes an abrupt turn and falls straight off
the escarpment to the Fort. This pathway for troops and wagons is cut
into a sandy subsoil and in places is ten feet deep. Except for a small
amount of erosion, this road is similar to that which was constructed in 1757
or before. It is simply unbelievable.
Due to a lack of communication this site is going to be destroyed by
Niagara Mohawk, an electric utility based in Syracuse, New York. They are
going to bulldoze this historic example of National significance and replace
it with a power station. This multi-component site that has withstood the
ravages of time for 239 years will be destroyed in the spring of 1996. We
will lose one of the few intact examples of early Colonial history.
THESE QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ANSWERED
What happened to the National Historic Preservation Act?
Why was the site not recommended to the National Register?
Is there a conflict of interest?
Why were archaeological field schools denied access to this site?
According to the New York Archaeological Council code of ethics,
Collamer had an obligation as a professional to present the
particulars of this property to the public in a timely and
responsible manner. Was this effected?
Collamer requires all her employees to sign a contract that
prohibits you from revealing any info on her sites? Why? I
thought this was public information. At least be able to
discuss the specifics of your finds, you don't have to reveal
the location.
Human bone fragments were found on this site. Were they
identified as Euro-American or Native American? Was this made
public?
Why wasn't there testing for French and Native American burials?
There are still burials unaccounted for at this battlesite.
Prominent archaeologists from the Albany to Fort Edward area knew
about this site. Why didn't they, as professionals, do
something to correct the situation.
Did the Adirondack Chapter of the New York State Archaeological
Association know about this site? Fort Edward is close to the
site. Contact: Sarah Majot- Treasurer ( also, crewchief for
Collamer).
The end result of this whole situation is that we have another
archaeological site that is going to be destroyed. Can we do something about
it? I NEED YOUR HELP.
PEOPLE YOU CAN E-MAIL FOR SUPPORT
Lynn Sullivan State Museum [log in to unmask]
Joseph Bruno State Senator [log in to unmask]
Hugh Farley State Senator [log in to unmask]
Greenpeace [log in to unmask]
PEOPLE YOU CAN CALL FOR SUPPORT
Ronald Stafford Warren County State Senator (518) 455-2811
Bernadette Peters Commissioner, Parks and Rec (518) 474-0443
Robert Kuhn SHPO (518) 474-0463
Town of Lake George (518) 668-5722
PEOPLE YOU CAN FAX
Joseph Bruno State Senator Fax (518) 455-2448
Robert Kuhn SHPO Fax (518) 233-9049
Bernadette Peters Commissioner Fax (518) 474-4492
COLLAMER AND ASSOCIATES FAX (518) 426-9624
COLLAMER'S ADDRESS
Jeanette Collamer and Associates
73 Dove Street
Albany, New York
COLLAMER'S FAX Fax (518) 426-9624
NIAGARA MOHAWK [log in to unmask]
1-800-932-0301
Can anyone make additions to the above list? Send this posting to as
many individuals or organizations as you can. The only way we can save this
site is through public opinion. I need help. I will make revisions to this
posting in the weeks ahead and keep you informed of the results. CONCERNED
grad student is my name right now. You can access this post at the newsgroup
sci.archaeology or alt.archaeology. However, I will only answer questions at
the alt.archaeology newsgroup. If you need to talk to me or wish to see the
site, leave a telephone number when you post at alt.archaeology. Thank you.
Bibliography:
Parkman, Francis
1897, 1898 France and England in North America. The Works of Francis
Parkman, volume V111. Boston, Little, Brown and Company, The
University Press, Cambridge, Mass pp.488, 509, 513, 515, 516, 517
Excellent map of the de Levis' site.
DIRECTIONS TO THE FRENCH SITE
ROUTE 9 NORTH TO LAKE GEORGE. AS YOU ARE COMING DOWN THE HILL
ON ROUTE 9 NORTH INTO THE VILLAGE, TURN LEFT ON BIRCH AVENUE.
FOLLOW BIRCH AVE TO THE END. DO NOT DRIVE INTO A HOMEOWNERS
DRIVEWAY, BIRCH ENDS JUST OUTSIDE OF HIS PROPERTY. YOU WILL
PASS GAGE ROAD AND A CEMETARY ON THE RIGHT BEFORE YOU ARRIVE
AT THE END OF THE ROAD. THE NIAGARA MOHAWK TRANSMISSION LINES
ARE AT THE END OF BIRCH AVE. TURN RIGHT (WALK, NO VEHICLE) AND
FOLLOW NIMO LINES FOR 100 FEET. SITE IS ON THE RIGHT. WALK TO THE
BACK OF THE SITE AND THE MILITARY ROAD IS VISIBLE. WALK THE HIGH
GROUND AND LOOK AT THE MORTAR ENTRENCHMENTS. ARTIFACTS ARE
STREWN ALL OVER THE PLACE. HUMAN BONE FRAGMENTS-BE CAREFUL. GO TO
THIS HISTORIC SPOT BEFORE THE BULLDOZERS ARRIVE.
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Regarding Jane Dieffenbacher's request for info on enlisted men from the Town of
Fairfield during the Civil War, but confusing the issue with mention of the War
of the Rebellion (isn't that what the Brits call the American Revolution?), it
is only fair to mention that what is now the Town of Lake Luzerne in Warren
County was the Town of Fairfield from April 10, 1792 until April 6, 1808.
Although that was long before the Civil War, her earlier history may suffer the
confusion of two different geographic areas having borne the same political
label. Regards, Brian B. Turner
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If writing, you might want to note that Bernadette Peters, the actress, is
not the NYS Commissioner of Parks, Recreation and Historic
Preservation. That Commissioner is Bernadette Castro.
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Brian Turner wrote:
>Regarding Jane Dieffenbacher's request for info on enlisted men from the
Town of
>Fairfield during the Civil War, but confusing the issue with mention of the
War
>of the Rebellion (isn't that what the Brits call the American Revolution?),
The American Civil War was also known as "The War of the Rebellion" as well
as The War of Southern Independence, The War Between the States (sic), The
Cause. And the list probably goes on. Joe Hennessy (Honolulu)
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Does the utility need federal approval for their actions at this site?
If they do, you would be advised to contact the Advisory Council on
Historic Preservation (202) 606-8503. If you are suggesting the there
are errors of fact the provisions of 36 CFR 800 (and elsewhere) may
provide some relief. Take some time to read the National Historic
Preservation Act and the applicable CFR sections. Be sure of the
facts, get the names right and good luck.
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Jane,
Have you tried to find Regimental Historys of the regiments you are
interested in? My wife's great grandfather was in a different regiment
from the ones you are interested in, and for that regiment, a Regimental
History was written. Her g-gpa had a copy, and it was passed down through
the family. The complete personnel of the regiment was listed in this
particular work, along with the home towns of the members of the regiment.
Maybe you could take a look into locating such histories? I couldn't
begin to tell you where to look, though.
George Peek
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Jane:
There are regimental histories of the 121st, 34th and 152nd
Regiments, NYV. The 152nd doesn't have a separate history, but is part
of another "group" regimental history. The NY State Library has them all
in paper as well as
on microfiche. You should also contact the NYS Archives as they have muster
rolls of the various NYS regiments as well as a great deal of other
official Civil War info. about NYS troops. The NYS Adjutant General's
Annual Reports for the early years of this century are available and they
are listings of the names of the various companies and regiments for NYS.
The State Library also has these available for reading in either book or
microfiche format.
Good luck with your research.
jim corsaro
On Wed, 6 Mar 1996 [log in to unmask] wrote:
> I am writing a history of the Town of Fairfield and would like to include a
> chapter on Fairfield men who served in the Civil War. I thought it would be
> an easy matter to get a list of names. What I found was different lists,
> names that sounded as if they were from other towns, lists that didn't agree,
> and other discrepancies. To make matters even more confusing, several
> students and faculty mambers from the Fairfield Academy volunteered and it's
> difficult to tell if they were residents, but I do want to include them. I
> tried the local historical societies and their lists seemed to have problems.
> I have New York in the War of the Rebellion, but it doesn't include
> privates. Is there an accurate listing of volunteers by township? Most of
> the locals were in Company C of the 121st Regiment, Company F of the 152nd
> Regiment, Company C of the 34th Regiment and a few assorted ones who signed
> up with other groups. Any suggestions on how to proceed will be greatly
> appreciated. Thank you. Jane Dieffenbacher
>
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I would like more information about the tragic fire in the early 20th
century that destroyed the horse barns of the Troop B Cavalry (National
Guard) near North Chatham in Columbia County, or in southern Rensselaer
County. I believe the fire may have occurred just before World War I,
perhaps ca. 1910. If I could just find a month and year I could check
various newspapers. The New York Times Indexes for the general period does
not list this event. I believe the Troop B Cavalry was headquartered in
Albany, and they used the farm near North Chatham for their training and
outings. They travelled from Albany to North Chatham on the Albany and
Southern Railroad (electric), and it must have been quite nice.
Many, perhaps all, of their horses were killed in the fire, however.
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I believe Troop B was 121 Cavalry, NY National Guard, based at the New
Scotland Avenue Armory in Albany. The main unit now there is the 210
Armor, brigaded with the 42nd "Rainbow" Division, NYARNG. I am not
sure if anyone at the 210th would know anything, as that unit went
through other evolutions after it was horse cavalry, including time as SP
anti-aircraft in the 1950s.
NYS Department of Military and Naval Affairs or the Federal NG Bureau
in Washington may be helpful, but I would first try DMNA records in the
New York State Archives, also the NYS Military Heritage Museum on the
old Washington Avenue Armory in Albany.
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Bob,
Thanks for the good suggestions: just what I needed to get started on
this little research project. I used to live not far from the site of the
"Troop B Barns."
Paul Huey
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On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Diane Blair-Lind wrote:
> Forwarding mail again!
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> > From: Diane Blair-Lind <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: MOHICANs
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> > Concerned:
> >
> > Last week I forwarded a copy of your message regarding: "LAST OF THE
> > MOHICANS ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE TO BE DESTROYED" to my cousin who is very
> > much involved in saving/preserving/restoring a battlefield in New York.
> > I spoke with her this past Sunday (yesterday) and those who should know
> > about this have been contacted and work is underway.
> > No one at that level was aware of this occurring - which from what I
> > understand happens all too often; not their fault.
> > You may have already rec'd a message from them.
> > She says, not to worry, never mind the calvery, but "the INDIANS are on
> > the way!!!!!"
> > Thanks so much for informing this site on the Internet.
> > Let's pray it all works out in time in our favour.
> > ************************
> > Diane Blair
> > email ([log in to unmask])
> >
> >
> >
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From: janet butler munch <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Claremont Inn
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I am interested in finding information on Claremont Inn which stood just
north of Grant's Tomb on Riverside Drive until the early 1950s. I am
particularly interested in personal reminiscences or anecdotes about the
Inn which served as a restaurant from the 1870s until its demise.
Thank you. Janet Butler Munch ([log in to unmask])
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Syracuse University Press intends to expand its already significant
involvement in New York State history publishing. The press has asked
Carol Kammen, local history advocate, G. David Brumberg, director of the
Historians-in-Residence Program and of the Guide to Historical Resources,
the "red guides" to manuscript collections across the state, and Stefan
Bielinski, historian in the State Department of Education and Director of
the Albany Project to serve as an advisory group to identify and encourage
books on New York's history and culture.
Books manuscripts will be sought in several categories. In
particular, we will seek books about New York history, monographs,
biographies, surveys; books that celebrate place;
books that incorporate travel in New York's localities; source and
reference books, both original works and reprints of older useful books;
and books about culture and society in the state including the arts and
folklore.
We are interested in hearing about book projects, collections of
essays, research aids, etc. that might be helpful in doing the history of
the Empire State. We would also like to hear about your ideas concerning
classic New York state local history that needs to be reprinted.
Suggestions may be directed to:
Carol Kammen [log in to unmask]
David Brumberg [log in to unmask]
Steve Bielinski [log in to unmask]
We hope to hear from you.
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In my message concerning Syracuse University Press' new New York history
and culture series, the e-mail address I gave for Stefan Bielinski was
incorrect. It should be [log in to unmask]
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I am finishing up my Ph.D. dissertation on a family of Catskills =
(Greene, Ulster & Sullivan Cos.) tanners and I have a reference to the =
"Middletown Daily Press" from 1886. A search of Library of Congress and =
NY libraries online has come up blank. Has anyone heard of this paper =
and if so do you know of any repositories where it is held?
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The NYS Library has the following issues on microfilm.
MIDDLETOWN DAILY PRESS.
# 09977983
1872-1906
NY 031 Middletown 93-31921
<1881:7:1-12:31> <1889:11:4-1906:1:31>
There may be more at a repository in Middletown, Orange County.
For more information contact the NYS Newspaper Project at
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In a message dated 96-03-27 14:50:55 EST, you write:
>> a family of Catskills (Greene, Ulster & Sullivan Cos.) tanners <<
I've done a considerable amount of research on the Hallock and Sands Families
in that part of the state. My database consists of over 50,000 entries,
about 3,000 of which are somehow associated with Greene and Ulster Counties
from the 1750s to date. I have specific references to the towns of Medway,
Greenville, Coxsackie, Durham, Athens, New Baltimore, Cairo, Catskill, and
Freehold in Greene County, and, Rosendale, Milton, Wallkill, Plattekill,
Lattingtown, Lomontville, Marlboro and Kingston, in Ulster County. I'd be
happy to answer any specific questions you have.
My understanding is that a significant number of families who settled in the
Orange, Ulster, Dutchess and Greene County areas, were refugee families from
Long Island, significantly Quaker, who were banished by the British when they
controlled Long Island. Perhaps some Quaker History would be helpful.
Joe
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>I am finishing up my Ph.D. dissertation on a family of Catskills (Greene,
Ulster & Sullivan Cos.) tanners and I have a reference to the "Middletown
Daily Press" from 1886. A search of Library of Congress and NY libraries
online has come up blank. Has anyone heard of this paper and if so do you
know of any repositories where it is held?
Dear David,
You might wish to try the Newburgh Public Library at 142 Grand St.
Newburgh, NY. I think that they might have it there.
Susan
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I would like to locate information regarding the Civilian Conservation Corps
(1933-1942) in New York State. I am especially interested in their activities
in Stony Brook State Park in Livingston County, New York. However, any
sources of information about the C.C.C. would be much appreciated.
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The New York State Archives has a list of Civilian Conservation Camps
in New York State, but no information on CCC activities or personnel
outside of a small region in the northeast Adirondack region (where the
CCC cooperated with the State Conservation Department).
Because the CCC was a federal agency, you should contact the National
Archives, Washington, DC 20408 (phone 202-501-5400) regarding any
surviving records of the agency.
The Center for Research Libraries in Chicago maintains a comprehensive
collection of CCC camp newsletters. You should inquire about access to
these materials through your local library's inter-library loan unit.
James D. Folts
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An awful lot of Federal alphabet agency money went through local
governments during the 1930's, as late as 1942. I am always surprised
at the relative paucity of local records surviving that relate to this. With
the exception of some capital construction records for WPA-built schools
and stuff, there really doesn't seem to be a lot of documentation for local
level programs that touched the lives of so many Americans.
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Email for reference requests to the National Archives
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There is a Civilian Conservation Corps. in Cherry Plains, New York. The
CCC built a dam on the Black River. This area is now known as the Cherry
Plains State Park, a part of the Grafton Lakes State Park of New York State.
The Civilian Conservation Corps. brought work and many new families to
this area. If anyone would like directions to this site you can e-mail me,
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Berlin, NY 12022
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TIME, PEOPLE, AND MONEY: ACQUIRING AND
MANAGING RESOURCES FOR ARCHIVES AND
MANUSCRIPT REPOSITORIES
- the theme for the 1996 Lake Ontario Archives
Conference, to be held June 14-15, 1996, at the
College of St. Rose, in Albany, New York.
The Conference will open with a plenary session by
Gerald George, Executive Director of the NHPRC, on
"Priorities for Future Funding". Following will be
sessions offered by members, based on experience, in
fund raising, access and fees, the internet and the
archives, sampling as a management tool for large
collections, conversion to automated formats, and the
present and future of the SUNY Archives System.
After the Friday evening banquet Leonard F. Tantillo,
Albany architect and illustrator, will offer a slide
presentation on how he has used archives to create
a visual record of Albany's past, from the earliest
structures to the early 1900s.
This year two special workshops will be offered at the
close of Saturday's sessions, one on "Genealogy for
Archivists", the other on "Using HTML to design a
home page".
For further information on the program, refer to the
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For registration, or other questions, please contact:
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Subject: RESEARCH QUERY: Seigneuries on Lake Champlain
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RESEARCH QUERY: Seigneuries on Lake Champlain
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I'm interested in looking at any material related to the
seigneuries on Lake Champlain in New York and Vermont and the
location of archival material in relation to these lands; as
well as any legal cases, state commissions, etc., and secondary
writings such as family histories or regional histories
mentioning these lands. My only source so far is the entry in
O'Callaghan's work about New York State and the related
Michigan case of the de Bonne-Repentigny seigneurie. Any
information along these lines would be greatly appreciated.
Alex ROSHUK, grad student
McGill University
History Department
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