And, if http://www.straphangers.org does not know when the last straps were retired (see my immediately prior eMail), then the New York Transit Museum should certainly know (hopefully, he added): New York Transit Museum Boerum Place & Schermerhorn Street New York (Brooklyn P.O.), NY 11201 www.mta.info/mta/museum/ I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY Subj: [NYHIST-L] NYC Subways Date: 7/7/09 9:10:41 AM Mountain Daylight Time From: [log in to unmask] (Lester Hendrix) Sender: [log in to unmask] (A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history.) Reply-to: [log in to unmask] (A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history.) To: [log in to unmask] It has been a few years since I rode the subway and I find there are no straps, and hence no real "straphangers." Does anyone know when the last straps were retired? Were they removed for a particular reason or merely omitted as newer cars replaced those with straps? </HTML>