You might want to ask your question about "straps" and "straphangers" at: http://www.straphangers.org Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY Subj: [NYHIST-L] NYC Subways Date: 7/7/09 9:10:41 AM Mountain Daylight Time From: [log in to unmask] (Lester Hendrix) Sender: [log in to unmask] (A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history.) Reply-to: [log in to unmask] (A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history.) To: [log in to unmask] It has been a few years since I rode the subway and I find there are no straps, and hence no real "straphangers." Does anyone know when the last straps were retired? Were they removed for a particular reason or merely omitted as newer cars replaced those with straps? </HTML>