I'm sorry for being so dramatic. He is buried right next to Jane McCrea and both graves are enclosed behind a black iron fence and gate. She was engaged to someone named Duncan Campbell at the time of her death. Daniel Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Cutshall-King <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Jane McCrea - Ft. Edward > Duncan Campbell was indeed wounded at Ticonderoga but died at Fort Edward. His > first burial place was the graveyard for the French and Indian War military > fortification called "Fort Edward" from which today's town and village derive > their names. That graveyard is now known as the State Street Cemetery. > Campbell's remains were exhumed and reburied in the Fort Edward Union Free > Cemetery, where Jane's McCrea's remains are now. > > Am confused by your statement "that his neighbor behind the iron gate in Fort > Edward/ Hudson Falls was engaged to a Duncan Campbell." Who do you mean? > > Joe Cutshall-King > Washington County Historian > Washington County Municipal Center > 383 Broadway > Fort Edward, NY 12828 > Tel.: 518-746-2178 > Fax: 518-746-2219 > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > HOME: > PO Box 154 > 693 County Route 49 > Cossayuna, NY 12823 > > Bus. Tel./FAX: 518-692-0022 > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > Daniel Martin wrote: > > > First, from everything I read, Campbell was wounded at Ti, but died at Fort > > Edward. I also read he was moved, as well, by relatives (the Gilchrists) > > who opened his lead coffin to view his remains. I also find it interesting, > > that his neighbor behind the iron gate in Fort Edward/ Hudson Falls was > > engaged to a Duncan Campbell. I've always wondered if this was a relative > > to the Inverawe Campell of Fort Ti fame. > > > > I am not a professional historian, but I have suspected for awhile that this > > type of thing was going to start. > > > > For those in Albany and those who are followers of French and Indian War > > lore, you may recall that there has been a controversy for almost 100 years > > as to where Lord Howe, who was killed in 1758 the day before the battle at > > Ti, is buried. Some contend he was buried at Trout Brook in Ti due to the > > finding of a rude grave marker in the 1890's but most accounts say he is > > buried under the steps of St. Peter's in Albany on State Street. Someone > > is buried there. I wonder, since he was a member of the royal family if > > someday someone will want to do a DNA on those remains. I think it will go > > on and on and on and on and....well, you get the picture. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Daniel H. Weiskotten <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:38 PM > > Subject: Re: Jane McCrea - Ft. Edward > > > > > Two things: > > > > > > First. Congratulations to Phil Lord, on your retirement. I cannot > > express > > > the gratitude for all your help, and the pleasure it has been to have > > > worked with you. Now go enjoy that kayak, but stay out of Labrador Pond > > > where the muck lies only inches below the surface and is the consistancy > > of > > > putrid chololate pudding (my experience in kayaking, when I turtled and > > > nearly drowned in it). > > > > > > Second. I will say that David Starbuck is one who will do it right, and > > > for the right reasons, with historical inquiry behind what he does. Too > > > many people think that all that scientists do is dig up and study Indians, > > > but most of us in the field know that this is simply not the case, but > > yes, > > > this examination would show that we do have an interest in Human history, > > > even of our own kind. > > > > > > Abe Lincoln, George Washington, and a slew of presidents have been dug up > > > at least once and wondered at and poked by the curious for various > > > reasons. Word is that observers were shocked when they found that > > > Lincoln's skin had turned black. Some say it was due to the particular > > > pickling process they used, others divine revelation. > > > > > > As for Jane McCrea, her body has been dug up more than once already. She > > > was originally buried, with Lieutenant or Colonel Van Vechten (I was > > unable > > > to find out anything more on him,) near where they were killed in > > > 1777. Then about 1823 she was moved to the cemetery in Fort Edward, > > placed > > > next to the grave of Mrs. McNeil with whom she lived at the time of her > > > killing. In 1852 her bones were exhumed again and reburied in Union > > > Cemetery, in Fort Edward, where she lies today. She was placed in a plot > > > near the entrance to the cemetery, where all could see her grave and > > simple > > > marker. Her neice, Sarah Hanna Payne, is the one who had her moved to > > this > > > final place. Duncan Campbell's remains have a similar story, being first > > > buried at Fort Ticonderoga, then at Fort Edward in 1823, moved again in > > > 1871, and then in 1920 they were moved to the present spot right next to > > > Jane's. I have a feeling Van Vechten was moved around alot also. > > > > > > There are many sources and facts about these events, and, as Ruthann > > > Messick pointed out, there is a great deal known about Jane McCrea, but we > > > all know there is even more that we do not know. Here is an opportunity > > > not often presented to do a serious look at the remains, and not some > > > anecdotal poking at the bones. Archaeology and forensic investigation > > > provide us with a unique and explicit way to read those pages of history > > > that were not heretofore available. > > > > > > For an recent interpretation of much of the story of Jane McCrea, take a > > > look at: > > > http://www.yacc-uk.freeserve.co.uk/macrae/JaneMcCrea.htm > > > > > > Dan W.