I wasn't around during the Urban Renewal times, But I do quite a bit of traveling in NY State. Not only urban renewal, but the building of bigger roadways, and interchanges is a big effect. Roadways. Utica, effects the end of the downtown and west towards Whitesboro Albany area, I-787 took out much of the downtown of Watervliet. Binghamton. Rt 17 and I81 definately displaced people, probably more residential areas (??) Urban Renewal. I'll second North Adams, MA. a resident commented about urban renewal in North Adams, and said "they took the heart out of the community" Ogdensburg. I was taken back by this town. I swear, there are maybe literally 5 or 6 two story business block buildings left! They built a plaza and covered the walkways. It's REALLY ugly. Amsterdam, NY - Downtown was basicly a main street, and what they did was cut it in half, and put a mall in the middle. not only is downtown basicly dead, but it's a chore to get to what is left. It would seem they took a good chunk of Hornell, NY Elmira, Corning were hurt by the Agnes Flood of 72. but Corning has done a good job of preserving their main st of Market St. Glens Falls tore down a whole section to put up an Arena, mostly used for Hockey, a parking lot and a burger king at the main intersection in town (yawn) mike Engle Hungry? - Upstate NY Diners http://www.nydiners.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail