P.S. Although Madison County is a bit west of the Hudson, I thought perhaps some intrastate migration might fit the Gypsy mode, and that there may be some information there in Madison County... Douglas Scott Treado, MA Project & Sales Manager ___________________________________ Challenge Industries Microfilm 402 East State Street Ithaca, New York 14850 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Telephone: (607) 272-8990 FAX: (607) 277-7865 -----Original Message----- From: A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ruth Piwonka Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 5:46 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: looking for information about Romani people in Hudson Valley I've had an enquiry regarding the presence of nineteenth or early twentieth century gypsies in Columbia County / Hudson Valley. I have never encountered any formal or informal study or comment on this subject and have never come upon mention of gypsies in reading old newspapers. Locally there is Gypsy Rock Road in the Town of Stuyvesant, but memory of the reason for that name seems to be lost. On the web, I have found several good web sites devoted to Gypsy / Romani history and culture, but none seem to be very specific as to locale, save New York city. Gypsy immigration began around 1850, but in 1880 it was outlawed in the United States for an extended period of time. I did find a Gypsy Point Road in Catskill and Gypsy Trail Road (off Rte. 301) Carmel. The names may be romantic or they may reflect some past local history. Any advice would be welcome. Ruth Piwonka Kinderhook, New York