Cumberland County, PA is on the Susquehanna River and nowhere near either the Wyoming Valley of PA or the Cumberland Valley of KY-TN. My response of a week ago pointing this out was short-stopped by a system censor and never sent out. I lived there and know. Alas... Stephen Quickel -----Original Message----- From: A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Frank Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:33 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Cumberland County, NY Thanks again to all who responded. The bottom line (at this point) is that with some other information that I was able to find, it appears that my ancestor lived near Wyoming in what is now PA. The key here is the phrase "what is now"! The boundaries c. 1770 were pretty nebulous, and in addition, PA counties have gone through the same sort of metamorphoses as their New York counterparts. A little contradictory info is to be expected, I guess! As far as I can discern so far, Cumberland County, PA was once the same sort of monster as Tryon County and did encompass the Wyoming area. Again, many thanks for all the input....now all I have to do is see if I can hook up with a similar group that has the same level of expertise and interest in that area of PA. All the best, Tim Frank -----Original Message----- From: A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Travis, John Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:52 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Cumberland County, NY Isn't it more likely that the NY part is wrong! Doesn't the Susquehanna River run through the Cumberland Gap down south?? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Frank [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:06 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Cumberland County, NY Thanks you all for your responses to my query re: Cumberland County NY. Is there any way that some one could have lived in Cumberland County, and on the Susquehanna simultaneously? i.e. This ancestor supposedly lived in Cumberland County , Susquehanna, New York Province. Or is this just completely inconsistent? Tim Frank (mailto:[log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Walter Greenspan Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:53 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Cumberland County, NY On 5/28/02 (5:19:45 PM EDT), an eMail from Lester Hendrix ([log in to unmask]) was posted, as: "New York also had Tryon and Charlotte counties, from 1772 to 1784. The last counties formed by the colonial government, they were named for then-governor Tryon and Charlotte, queen consort to George. After the revolution they were renamed for patriot generals Mongtomery (Tryon) and Washington (Charlotte) and were chopped up into smaller counties. Tryon, seated at Johnstown, encompassed all of western New York excepting the Indian lands and Charlotte all of north eastern New York, some of which was transferred to Vermont. So the count is 68 for the time span given." Thank you. However, I don't think a change in names truly represents a new or different county. Hence, my count was (and remains) that New York State since November 1, 1683, has had 66 counties. (I show the name changes in the footnotes to the table I included in my previous eMail oif May 21 on this subject.) Walter Greenspan