In a message dated 9/25/01 4:19:45 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: << I have found it difficult to read some of the recent postings because of the smoke in my eyes. It seemed strange to read musings about the material culture of past centuries when the National Guard is in the city where I live and the bureaucracy is straining to produce enough death certificates so quickly. >> I believe that this subject began when someone was asking for events that affected NYers throughout HISTORY. After all, Pearl Harbor was an historical event and I do not believe anyone was comparing it to the recent WTC tragedy. I for one, was alive during both tragedies and found our recent one to be the most catastrophic. Living in New York City, so close to the devastation and loss of lives, makes this so. My son was at his office, across the street at 1 Liberty Plaza and witnessed it all. Luckily he had left the area shortly before the final collapse. There are many people who choose to discount important events just because it was before their time; in reality, these events were all part of our history and many esteemed historians appreciate eyewitness accounts. This leaves no room for snobbery. Eileen in NYC