Hello Vicki, The following appeared in the Buffalo News in 1999. It may help with tracking down the history of beef on weck and cites (as I expected) that kummelweck rolls were of german origin. 01/01/1999 Buffalo News FINAL B4 (Copyright 1999) Charlie the Butcher, a Buffalo original, will take his place among Wendy's founder Dave Thomas and Kentucky Fried Chicken founder Colonel Sanders on "American Eats: History on a Bun," a two-hour special Saturday on the History Channel. The world premiere traces the history of American food, looking at how it has changed to fit evolving trends, lifestyles and technological advances. Among the segments will be a piece featuring Charlie the Butcher, who will show the nation how to make a beef on weck as the sandwich's turn of the century story is told. Also featured will be the birth of the ice cream cone and the opening of the first pizzeria. William Wahr, a German baker, brought the Kummelweck roll recipe here from the Black Forest. Tune in to the special at 8 p.m. Saturday to learn how that roll wound up in the hands of a Main Street bar owner who helped put the Buffalo specialty in the history books. Judith Weiland, Assistant Office of the Director of Undergraduate Studies Department of History 540 Park Hall University at Buffalo Buffalo, NY 14260-4130 Office (716) 645-2181 ext. 540 fax (716)645-5954 [log in to unmask]