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Laura Shore <[log in to unmask]>
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I'm reading Tin Horns and Calico. The farmers in Berne & Schoharie  
dressed up like Indians to resist the rent collectors -- later than  
1812 but perhaps the stories got blurred over time.


On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Honor Conklin wrote:

>    It looks like this story may have been telescoped in the family  
> making two men into one.  See Jeptha R. Simms.  History of  
> Schoharie County and Border Wars, 1845, reprint 1974.  The volume  
> is not indexed so I don't know how many times the Ball family is  
> mentioned.
>
> p. 208
>
>    "Johannes Bella, a thorough going Whig, was chairman of the  
> committee [of safety] from its organization to the end of the  
> [Revolutionary] war."
>
> p. 209
>
>    "Mr. Ball, chairman of the Schoharie committee, had two sons,  
> Peter and Mattice--who were both living in 1837, in the town of  
> Sharon --who, with their father warmly espoused their country's  
> cause; while another son, and his brother, Captain Jacob Ball--a  
> leader among the tories at Beaverdam; and John Peter Ball, another  
> relative, as warmly advocated that of the oppressor."
>
> pp. 213-214
>
>    [An account of how Johannes Ball was tricked into an encounter  
> with an Indian, David, who tried to kill him.]
>
>
>
>   There was another John Peter Ball born 1788 to 1863 [1865?] in  
> the town of Berne.  I didn't save the title to that entry (it can  
> be googled) but a "Diary of George Warner of Berne, NY-1862" had  
> probably this John Peter Ball buried January 9, 1863.
>
> http://www.bernehistory.org/area_history/gw1862diary.htm
>
>
> Honor Conklin
>
>>>> Harold Miller <[log in to unmask]> 4/8/2010 7:33 PM >>>
> *In Amasa J. Parker's 1897 "Landmarks of Albany County" on page 69  
> it says
> of John Peter Ball of Berne: "Once while plowing in his field,  
> during the
> war of 1812, he was suddenly confronted by Indians and taken  
> prisoner, he
> was returned unharmed." *
> *
> *
> *Could that be real, or is it more likely to be family legend?*
> *
> *
> *Harold Miller*
> *AlbanyHilltowns.com*

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