My husband is the 11th great-grandson of Lion Gardiner. We are finding
this whole discussion very interesting and will be following up with
research on this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Greenspan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:23 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Burned Over / 1658 Long Island Death

On 1/27/04 (7:11:52 AM MST), (Honor Conklin ([log in to unmask])
wrote,

"Since the Goody Garlicke matter had to do with the death of Elizabeth
(Gardiner) Howell, (Mrs. Arthur), many writings on Lion Gardiner
(Elizabeth's
father) will mention the trial to varying degrees.  Lion Gardiner
interceded for the
Garlickes, her husband being employed by Gardiner on Gardiner's Island."


Gardiner's Island is in the Hamlet of Spring in the Town of East
Hampton,
Suffolk County.

Springs is one of those many communities on Long Island where none of
the
places in Springs have a "Springs, NY" mailing address.

The pertinent geography:

Springs is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the central part of the
Town
of East Hampton, Suffolk County.  There are currently 2 villages
(municipal
corporations) and 7 hamlets all or partly in the Town of East Hampton.
There
are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County.  There are 2 Indian
reservations
in Suffolk County.  (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic
Glossary with
the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal
zone.)

Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet
of
Springs is bordered on the north and east by Gardiner's Bay; on the
south by the
Hamlet of Amagansett and the Hamlet of East Hampton North; and, on the
west by
the Hamlet of Northwest Harbor.

The Hamlet of Springs includes Gardiner's Island, the largest (about
3,000
acres) privately owned island in the U.S., settled by colonist Lion
Gardiner in
1639 as the first permanent English settlement in New York State and has
been
owned for over 300 years by his descendants.  Gardiner's Island is in
Gardiner's Bay, between the North Fork and the South Fork peninsulas at
the eastern
end of Suffolk County, on the eastern end of Long Island.

And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0
cities, 31
villages and 126 hamlets), the hamlet and the postal zone that use the
same
name, have much different borders:  In this case there is no "Springs,
NY"
postal zone and places in the Hamlet of Springs have an "East Hampton,
NY 11937"
address.

For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI
Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long
Island Power
Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to
access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Springs in
the Town of
East Hampton, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 32 (map) and 33 (population
estimate).

I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting.

Walter Greenspan

.   Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State

New York State is divided into counties.

County
A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created
to
perform state functions; a "regional" government.  All counties are
divided
into cities, towns and Indian reservations.

City
A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter.
Cities
are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal
geographic
areas.

Town
A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within
the
state except that within cities or Indian reservations.  Towns can be
sub-divided into villages and hamlets.

Village
A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily
by
the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with
municipal services.  The pattern of village organization is similar to
those of a
city.  A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal
geographic
areas.

Hamlet
A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed
at-large by the town(s) it is in.  A hamlet is divided into
neighborhoods, which
are informal geographic areas.

Postal Zone "City" and "Town"
A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district
established by
the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail.  Postal zone "City" and
"Town"
may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community
borders.
Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or
hamlet
location.


Please be aware:  In many areas of New York State, the problem of
non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of
places have a
different community name in their mailing address than the community
where that
place is actually located.