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Clare McCann, a volunteer for the Capital District Genealogy Society
will be at the NYS Library Friday at the desk across from the staff
desk. Ask Clare to show you the book she has discovered about PA
when it was part of CT territory. That has great info in it about all of
that area. She made me a copy of a map out of it and explained
many things to me about the changes. I am moving and all of what
she gave me is packed away.

Also, in the Richard's Atlas it shows the many changes in NYS
from the Duke of York's territory (in yellow) including Martha's
Vineyard and all of VT. It also shows some of the territory of PA
that was also part of CT. This gives dates of changes.

God Bless
Ruth Ann Messick
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On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:32:54 -0400 Tim Frank <[log in to unmask]>
writes:
> Thanks again to all who responded.
> The bottom line (at this point) is that with some other information
> that I
> was able to find, it appears that my ancestor lived near Wyoming in
> what is
> now PA.
> The key here is the phrase "what is now"!
> The boundaries c. 1770 were pretty nebulous, and in addition, PA
> counties
> have gone through the same sort of metamorphoses as their New York
> counterparts. A little contradictory info is to be expected, I
> guess!
> As far as I can discern so far, Cumberland County, PA was once the
> same sort
> of monster as Tryon County and did encompass the Wyoming area.
>
> Again, many thanks for all the input....now all I have to do is see
> if I can
> hook up with a similar group that has the same level of expertise
> and
> interest in that area of PA.
>
> All the best,
> Tim Frank
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State
> history.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Travis, John
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:52 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Cumberland County, NY
>
> Isn't it more likely that the NY part is wrong!  Doesn't the
> Susquehanna
> River run through the Cumberland Gap down south??
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Frank [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:06 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Cumberland County, NY
>
>
> Thanks you all for your responses to my query re: Cumberland County
> NY.
>  Is there any way that some one could have lived in Cumberland
> County, and
> on the Susquehanna simultaneously?  i.e. This ancestor supposedly
> lived in
> Cumberland County , Susquehanna, New York Province.
> Or is this just completely inconsistent?
>
>
>
> Tim Frank
>         (mailto:[log in to unmask]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State
> history.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Walter Greenspan
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:53 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Cumberland County, NY
>
> On 5/28/02 (5:19:45 PM EDT), an eMail from Lester Hendrix
> ([log in to unmask]) was posted, as:
>
> "New York also had Tryon and Charlotte counties, from 1772 to 1784.
> The last
> counties formed by the colonial government, they were named for
> then-governor
> Tryon and Charlotte, queen consort to George. After the revolution
> they were
> renamed for patriot generals Mongtomery (Tryon) and Washington
> (Charlotte)
> and were chopped up into smaller counties. Tryon, seated at
> Johnstown,
> encompassed all of western New York excepting the Indian lands and
> Charlotte
> all of north eastern New York, some of which was transferred to
> Vermont.  So
> the count is 68 for the time span given."
>
>
> Thank you.  However, I don't think a change in names truly
> represents a new
> or different county.  Hence, my count was (and remains) that New
> York State
> since November 1, 1683, has had 66 counties.  (I show the name
> changes in
> the
> footnotes to the table I included in my previous eMail oif May 21 on
> this
> subject.)
>
>
> Walter Greenspan

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