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From: "Daniel H. Weiskotten" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Vermont Sufferers


> Chuck Lynch asked about the "Vermont Sufferers"
>         E.B. O'Callaghan's 1851 Documentary History of New York, Volume 4,
pages
> 531-1034 (yes 500 pages!) covers the "Controversy Between New York and New
> Hampshire, Respecting the Territory Now the State of Vermont"  It gives
> scads of official correspondence, a map of the area of NY, VT, & NH (if
> some map dealer hasn't absconded with it), and a wnderful list of the
> "sufferes" who were granted land in NY.
>         Because O'Callaghan's work was so early (1851) local history books
and
> gazetteers may have abstracted or digested some of this information also.
>
>         The 1802 Map of New York State by Simeon DeWitt shows the location
of the
> Town of Clinton, then Jerico, and now Bainbridge, where the "sufferers"
> were granted land.  I have parts of this map on my web pages and the
> location is in the lower right corner near the confluence of the Unadilla
> and Susquehanna Rivers.  The original Town of Clinton is now covered by
the
> present towns of Bainbridge, Afton, and part of Coventry.
>
>         Dan W.
>         http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/
>
>
> At 10:21 PM 7/2/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >        Can someone refer me to an authoritative source that describes
the
> plight
> >of the "VERMONT SUFFERERS" and the settlement that redressed their
> >'sufferings'?
> >
> >        I understand that from about 1772 to early in 1786  jurisdiction
> over a
> >portion of what is now southwestern Vermont was claimed by both New York
> >and Vermont.  As a consequence a number of civil and military officers
> >commissioned by the State of New York, were, nonetheless, driven from
their
> >homes, imprisoned, one killed, others wounded, had their estates
> >confiscated and sold.
> >
> >        Ultimately, in response to a petition by or on behalf of these
> 'sufferers'
> >the petition was favorably considered and a committee recommended that
the
> >State of NY grant the petitioners a Township of Eight Miles Square.
> >Consequently, something less than 41,000 acres in the Township of what
> >became Bainbridge in Chenango Co., NY was granted to the members of this
> class.
> >
> >        Where was the territory that was in dispute?
> >
> >        Is there a list of the individuals claiming injury and the nature
and
> >extent of their suffering?
> >
> >        Is there a list of the grants to individuals?  Was it of a
specified
> >portion of the larger tract; i. e., how was each individual's share of
the
> >grant described?
> >
> >        Were there any conditions on the grant, e. g., did they have to
take
> >possession within a specified time; were there limitations on conveying
> >their interest in it?
> >
> >        At least two of my ancestors are referred to as "Vermont
> Sufferers" in a
> >newspaper article or in correspondence among family members but without
> >specifying the details.
> >
> >        I would be most grateful for your recommendations or referrals.
> >
> >        Gratefully,
> >                                                                Chuck
Lynch
> >
>