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"Thomas W. Perrin" <[log in to unmask]>
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A provocative question. But are the original documents still available?
Wasnt' there a fire in Albany that destroyed a lot of stuff?

tom


"Daniel H. Weiskotten" wrote:
>
> Now that my question about the availability of NYCD and DHNY has been
> asnwered I would like to ask if anyone has ever done a study of the work
> that he did and how he did it and how it has affected our interpretation of
> New York State history.  I know that he was a latecomer to New York
> history, having worn many hats before and after, but how did this one
> series shape our interpretations and is there more?
>
> In my various projects I have come across other people's work of the same
> sources that O'Callaghan used, such as the Livingston Indian Records and
> manuscripts in the State Archives, and found that while O'Callaghan gives
> what we believe to be a nice literal transcript of the original document,
> it is actually a brief summary of what is in the original.  Case in point,
> a destcription of the journey by Robert Livingston to Onondaga in 1697,
> presented by O'Callaghan in NYCD IV:648-652 is but a shadow of what is
> presented in the Livingston Indian Records :174-176, and as seen in the
> original document to be found in Fenton, et al.'s massive Iroquois Indians:
> A Documentary History" (microfilm reel 5, April 1697).
>
> I have seen other examples over the years, and I can only imagine what
> wonders might be found if O'Callaghan's work were re-edited from the
> original manusripts.
>
> Is this too massive to consider or has anyone been brave enough to do more
> than just scan and stick the images onto CD?
>
>         Dan W.
>         (fishing for something to do, but without the resources)
>
> At 03:28 PM 7/17/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >>  ....  I am
> >> wondering about whether anyone has ever gone to the trouble, such as the
> >> folks at the Making of American, Lemoyne (Jesuit Relations), and other
> >> text-scanning projects, to get this fantastic source  .....  onto the web
> >> where more people would be able to use them?
> >
> >** I don't know if they are on the web, but they are available on CDs at $35
> >a piece.   Very handy in my bookcase space.  Brodhead's 15 volume work,
> >NYCD, was 'published' by the LeGrand J. Weller, 2301 Crestline, Abilene, TX
> >79602 -  915 677 9169 in 1999.    ISBN # not given on the CD.  The CD
> >edition of  NYCD also include a piece by Cadwallder Colden and 'four Munsell
> >tracts, edited by O'Callaghan'.
> >
> >And O'Callaghan's DHNY, 1849 edition  (4 vols) is on another CD 'published'
> >by  Fine Books COmpany, 984 Washington Blvd., Abilene TX 79601 / 915 673
> >7603
> >ISBN # 1886103-00-3.
> >
> >Ruth Piwonka
> >Kinderhook, New York
> >

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