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Date: | Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:17:31 -0500 |
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The park is still 'private' with a fence around it.
This sounds like a more plausible explanation, but than most that have
been posted.
I read a lot of irony in the song; even in the 1890's when the song was
written the streets and sidewalks of NY were nasty - all the horses;
playing 'London Bridge is falling' down in an Irish neighborhood.
On Feb 25, 2005, at 11:58 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
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> Hello All. After further research and asking some "old folks," I do
> believe the "G" means Gramercy Park, because several older NYer's have
> told me that it was still a term when they were young. "Up in
> G." I was told by a 92 year old woman that "not only was the rich
> and famous up in G, but they had fancy fences around the gardens
> and Parks to keep the poor folks out." Originally meaning Gramercy
> Park and referring to the "hoytie toytie's" who became more
> sophisticated and moved uptown to "Gramercy Park," it became a phrase
> for anyone who moved "up and out of the neighborhood" and sometimes
> meaning "they think they're too good for us." I am currently
> researching and writing a book about Old Manhattan and I truly
> appreciate this type of discussion, very colorful and thought
> provoking. I would appreciate any one else who would mention old
> "sayings" "Colloquialism's" and "slang words" used exclusively in NEW
> YORK. Thanks.
>
Jazz is freedom. - T. Monk
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