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"Daniel H. Weiskotten" <[log in to unmask]>
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Chuck Lynch asked about the "Vermont Sufferers"
        E.B. O'Callaghan's 1851 Documentary History of New York, Volume 4, pages
531-1034 (yes 500 pages!) covers the "Controversy Between New York and New
Hampshire, Respecting the Territory Now the State of Vermont"  It gives
scads of official correspondence, a map of the area of NY, VT, & NH (if
some map dealer hasn't absconded with it), and a wnderful list of the
"sufferes" who were granted land in NY.
        Because O'Callaghan's work was so early (1851) local history books and
gazetteers may have abstracted or digested some of this information also.

        The 1802 Map of New York State by Simeon DeWitt shows the location of the
Town of Clinton, then Jerico, and now Bainbridge, where the "sufferers"
were granted land.  I have parts of this map on my web pages and the
location is in the lower right corner near the confluence of the Unadilla
and Susquehanna Rivers.  The original Town of Clinton is now covered by the
present towns of Bainbridge, Afton, and part of Coventry.

        Dan W.
        http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/


At 10:21 PM 7/2/00 -0400, you wrote:
>        Can someone refer me to an authoritative source that describes the
plight
>of the "VERMONT SUFFERERS" and the settlement that redressed their
>'sufferings'?
>
>        I understand that from about 1772 to early in 1786  jurisdiction
over a
>portion of what is now southwestern Vermont was claimed by both New York
>and Vermont.  As a consequence a number of civil and military officers
>commissioned by the State of New York, were, nonetheless, driven from their
>homes, imprisoned, one killed, others wounded, had their estates
>confiscated and sold.
>
>        Ultimately, in response to a petition by or on behalf of these
'sufferers'
>the petition was favorably considered and a committee recommended that the
>State of NY grant the petitioners a Township of Eight Miles Square.
>Consequently, something less than 41,000 acres in the Township of what
>became Bainbridge in Chenango Co., NY was granted to the members of this
class.
>
>        Where was the territory that was in dispute?
>
>        Is there a list of the individuals claiming injury and the nature and
>extent of their suffering?
>
>        Is there a list of the grants to individuals?  Was it of a specified
>portion of the larger tract; i. e., how was each individual's share of the
>grant described?
>
>        Were there any conditions on the grant, e. g., did they have to take
>possession within a specified time; were there limitations on conveying
>their interest in it?
>
>        At least two of my ancestors are referred to as "Vermont
Sufferers" in a
>newspaper article or in correspondence among family members but without
>specifying the details.
>
>        I would be most grateful for your recommendations or referrals.
>
>        Gratefully,
>                                                                Chuck Lynch
>

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