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"Daniel H. Weiskotten" <[log in to unmask]>
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A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history." <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:20:05 -0400
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Now that my question about the availability of NYCD and DHNY has been
asnwered I would like to ask if anyone has ever done a study of the work
that he did and how he did it and how it has affected our interpretation of
New York State history.  I know that he was a latecomer to New York
history, having worn many hats before and after, but how did this one
series shape our interpretations and is there more?

In my various projects I have come across other people's work of the same
sources that O'Callaghan used, such as the Livingston Indian Records and
manuscripts in the State Archives, and found that while O'Callaghan gives
what we believe to be a nice literal transcript of the original document,
it is actually a brief summary of what is in the original.  Case in point,
a destcription of the journey by Robert Livingston to Onondaga in 1697,
presented by O'Callaghan in NYCD IV:648-652 is but a shadow of what is
presented in the Livingston Indian Records :174-176, and as seen in the
original document to be found in Fenton, et al.'s massive Iroquois Indians:
A Documentary History" (microfilm reel 5, April 1697).

I have seen other examples over the years, and I can only imagine what
wonders might be found if O'Callaghan's work were re-edited from the
original manusripts.

Is this too massive to consider or has anyone been brave enough to do more
than just scan and stick the images onto CD?

        Dan W.
        (fishing for something to do, but without the resources)

At 03:28 PM 7/17/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>  ....  I am
>> wondering about whether anyone has ever gone to the trouble, such as the
>> folks at the Making of American, Lemoyne (Jesuit Relations), and other
>> text-scanning projects, to get this fantastic source  .....  onto the web
>> where more people would be able to use them?
>
>** I don't know if they are on the web, but they are available on CDs at $35
>a piece.   Very handy in my bookcase space.  Brodhead's 15 volume work,
>NYCD, was 'published' by the LeGrand J. Weller, 2301 Crestline, Abilene, TX
>79602 -  915 677 9169 in 1999.    ISBN # not given on the CD.  The CD
>edition of  NYCD also include a piece by Cadwallder Colden and 'four Munsell
>tracts, edited by O'Callaghan'.
>
>And O'Callaghan's DHNY, 1849 edition  (4 vols) is on another CD 'published'
>by  Fine Books COmpany, 984 Washington Blvd., Abilene TX 79601 / 915 673
>7603
>ISBN # 1886103-00-3.
>
>Ruth Piwonka
>Kinderhook, New York
>

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