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"R. Scott Hanson" <[log in to unmask]>
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A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history." <[log in to unmask]>
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It would be a stretch to say this person was "of Flushing" in any time period.

Founded in 1645, the town of Flushing consisted of 3 hamlets prior to
1837: Flushing (the hamlet and area which became the village of
Flushing in 1837), Whitestone, and Bayside.  Flushing was the largest
settlement.  During the colonial period, the town of Flushing was
under the jurisdiction of Jamaica, and residents of Flushing had to
travel there to petition for benefits and transact business. Flushing
became an incorporated village on April 15, 1837 presumably to gain
self-rule (a board of trustees, and municipal officers). The
boundaries of the new charter carved out a small area of modern
Flushing and part of Whitestone: 21st Avenue to the north, Sanford
Avenue to the south, Bowne Avenue to the east, and Flushing Creek to
the west.  "Downtown" was located near the lower end of Northern
Boulevard at the creek.

The official and administrative changes associated with consolidation
in 1898 took a while to sink in: many Flushing residents did not
associate the area where they lived with the city until well into the
twentieth century, as one can see by looking at addressed envelopes
and stationery of the past that read "Flushing, Long Island."

The U.S. Postal Service now officially identifies Flushing as a much
larger area than what most locals would imagine: anything with a zip
code that begins with 113- which includes "Flushing," as well as
Bayside, Bay Terrace, College Point, Corona-Elmhurst, Douglaston,
Forest Hills, Fresh Meadows, Fresh Pond, Glendale, Jackson Heights,
Little Neck, Maspeth, Middle Village, Oakland Gardens, Parkside,
Pomonok, Rego Park, Ridgewood, Trainsmeadow, Whitestone, Woodside,
and even La Guardia Airport.  Obviously, this is a huge region: about
one third of Queens (itself the largest borough in the city).  But of
the area within these 35 zip codes, only a small stretch of one
square mile mainly within 11354 and 11355 would comprise the 1837
village boundaries-what most locals would still call Flushing.  This
distinction is reinforced in the popular imagination by looking at
maps of New York City and Queens (Department of City Planning and
standard road maps such as Hagstrom's), all of which seem to indicate
this smaller area as Flushing.  Community Board districts are
slightly more precise-CB7 encompasses much of the same area (whereas
CB4 would be Corona-Elmhurst), but even here there is some overlap
with other areas.

Much of this was cut and pasted from my dissertation, "City of Gods:
Religious Freedom, Immigration, and Pluralism in Flushing,
Queens--New York City, 1945-2000."

R. Scott Hanson
Ph.D. Candidate
Committee on the History of Culture
The University of Chicago

Postdoctoral Research Associate
Brown University, 2001-02

>    Would there be any likelihood that someone who went back and
>forth between Southold and Huntington and whose family members owned
>land in Oyster Bay in the time period of 1665 might be considered to
>be "of Flushing" by someone of Southold and Rye, NY when drawing up
>a deed in what is now Westchester County?  What would be the
>furthest point east that someone might be considered "of Flushing"
>at that time?  Could someone who owned property, or resided with a
>family member who owned property, in Hempstead possibly be
>considered "of Flushing"?
>
>Honor
>
>>>>  [log in to unmask] 03/30/02 12:02AM >>>
>Those of you not familiar with the Dongan Patent may be interested to learn
>that when NY State became a state, its constitution acknowledged all
>contracts and agreements made between the Crown and the New York colonials
>before Oct. 1775. When the federal Constitution was written, it included
>recognition and upholding of pre-Revolutionary War contracts, etc. That
>includes the Dongan Patent which gave its grantees full right to govern,
>fish, hunt, purchase land, etc.
>
>Dongan granted Patents to other than colonial New York but, to my knowledge,
>until Brookhaven's most recent news, only one person has pursued and is
>pursuing in court the rights granted by the the State and federal
>Constitutions. That person is a commercial fisherman.
>
>Pre-Revolutionary contracts have held up in federal courts during the last
>180 years.
>
>If anyone knows of other instances (in NY or outside it) in which early
>contracts and patents were held to be viable when challenged, I would like
>to hear about them.
>
>Nancy Hyden Woodward
>
>
>on 3/28/02 1:04 PM, Walter Greenspan at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
>>  Today's NEWSDAY has a news analysis column (the first 5 paragraphs, as well
>>  as the URL for the complete article, appear after my name) about the Town of
>>  Brookhaven lawsuit to overturn the referendum that approved the creation of
>>  councilmanic districts for town board members.
>>
>>  The town will argue in its lawsuit that the new configuration of board
>>  membership under the election rules approved by the public on Jan. 22 would
>>  not conform to the terms of King James II's trusteeships as granted to the
>>  trustees in 1686 by the king's governor, Thomas Dongan.
>>
>
>>  Copyright (c) 2002, Newsday, Inc.
>>
>>  This article originally appeared at:
>  > http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/ny-livit282643327mar28.column

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