NYHIST-L Archives

February 2004

NYHIST-L@LISTSERV.NYSED.GOV

Options: Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Nancy Hyden Woodward <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State history." <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Sat, 7 Feb 2004 00:34:03 -0500
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (167 lines)
The thought occurred to me that Kim Peterson and others interested in Lion
Gardiner might like to know that he and his wife are buried in the South End
Cemetery and that descendants live here.

The Long Island Collection of the East Hampton Library has several Gardiner
artifacts on loan from Robert David Lion Gardiner who, with his sister
Alexandra Creele, is part owner of Gardiner Island. I'm not too sure about
the ownership status today. A few years ago, the siblings were in rather
unpleasant litigation over it.

Nancy Hyden Woodward




> From: "Peterson, Kim" <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: "A LISTSERV list for discussions pertaining to New York State
> history." <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 08:39:11 -0500
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Burned Over / 1658 Long Island Death
>
> My husband is the 11th great-grandson of Lion Gardiner. We are finding
> this whole discussion very interesting and will be following up with
> research on this.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walter Greenspan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:23 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Burned Over / 1658 Long Island Death
>
> On 1/27/04 (7:11:52 AM MST), (Honor Conklin ([log in to unmask])
> wrote,
>
> "Since the Goody Garlicke matter had to do with the death of Elizabeth
> (Gardiner) Howell, (Mrs. Arthur), many writings on Lion Gardiner
> (Elizabeth's
> father) will mention the trial to varying degrees.  Lion Gardiner
> interceded for the
> Garlickes, her husband being employed by Gardiner on Gardiner's Island."
>
>
> Gardiner's Island is in the Hamlet of Spring in the Town of East
> Hampton,
> Suffolk County.
>
> Springs is one of those many communities on Long Island where none of
> the
> places in Springs have a "Springs, NY" mailing address.
>
> The pertinent geography:
>
> Springs is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the central part of the
> Town
> of East Hampton, Suffolk County.  There are currently 2 villages
> (municipal
> corporations) and 7 hamlets all or partly in the Town of East Hampton.
> There
> are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County.  There are 2 Indian
> reservations
> in Suffolk County.  (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic
> Glossary with
> the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal
> zone.)
>
> Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet
> of
> Springs is bordered on the north and east by Gardiner's Bay; on the
> south by the
> Hamlet of Amagansett and the Hamlet of East Hampton North; and, on the
> west by
> the Hamlet of Northwest Harbor.
>
> The Hamlet of Springs includes Gardiner's Island, the largest (about
> 3,000
> acres) privately owned island in the U.S., settled by colonist Lion
> Gardiner in
> 1639 as the first permanent English settlement in New York State and has
> been
> owned for over 300 years by his descendants.  Gardiner's Island is in
> Gardiner's Bay, between the North Fork and the South Fork peninsulas at
> the eastern
> end of Suffolk County, on the eastern end of Long Island.
>
> And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0
> cities, 31
> villages and 126 hamlets), the hamlet and the postal zone that use the
> same
> name, have much different borders:  In this case there is no "Springs,
> NY"
> postal zone and places in the Hamlet of Springs have an "East Hampton,
> NY 11937"
> address.
>
> For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI
> Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long
> Island Power
> Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to
> access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Springs in
> the Town of
> East Hampton, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 32 (map) and 33 (population
> estimate).
>
> I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting.
>
> Walter Greenspan
>
> ..   Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State
>
> New York State is divided into counties.
>
> County
> A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created
> to
> perform state functions; a "regional" government.  All counties are
> divided
> into cities, towns and Indian reservations.
>
> City
> A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter.
> Cities
> are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal
> geographic
> areas.
>
> Town
> A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within
> the
> state except that within cities or Indian reservations.  Towns can be
> sub-divided into villages and hamlets.
>
> Village
> A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily
> by
> the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with
> municipal services.  The pattern of village organization is similar to
> those of a
> city.  A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal
> geographic
> areas.
>
> Hamlet
> A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed
> at-large by the town(s) it is in.  A hamlet is divided into
> neighborhoods, which
> are informal geographic areas.
>
> Postal Zone "City" and "Town"
> A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district
> established by
> the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail.  Postal zone "City" and
> "Town"
> may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community
> borders.
> Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or
> hamlet
> location.
>
>
> Please be aware:  In many areas of New York State, the problem of
> non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of
> places have a
> different community name in their mailing address than the community
> where that
> place is actually located.

ATOM RSS1 RSS2