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David Minor <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 20 May 2004 13:29:58 -0400
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The following is dialogue with Yale Art Gallery. Any clarification would be
appreciated by both of us. Thanks - David Minor

Your website mentions that on July 8, 1693, the New York City Council
mentions a cup made by Jacob Marius for presentation to the Governor --
where did you find this info?

The source is the second chapter of Hugh Macatamney's "Cradle Days of New
York." (New York, 1909, Drew &Lewis).

"Further, it was ordered 'that the mayor doe provide a cup of gold to the
> value of one hundred pounds, to be presented unto his excellency on behalf
> of this city, as a token of their gratitude.' The mayor bought of Peter
> Jacob Marius twenty ounces of gold for the cup, at a cost of L106, for
> which he and others gave their bonds, and desired a fund might be raised to
> pay the same, and it was ordered that the revenue of the ferry between the
> city and Brooklyn, 'which doth annually arise, be not converted unto any
> other use whatsoever until the said one hundred and six pounds be paid as
> above.'"

I am trying to determine what Marius' other works were, when he worked,
etc....  None of his other work seems to have survived, so we were thrilled
to find out that he may have once made a cup for Governor Fletcher.  Before
we state this, though I do want to be sure that he was the silvermsith of
this tankard. The passage makes it sound as if the council only purchased
the gold from Peter Jacob Marius, who was a merchant and the uncle of Jacob
Marius the silversmith.  Is there any direct mention of them hiring Jacob
Marius to make the cup?  Who was the mayor at this point, as it sounds as
if he would have undertaken the commissioning.

David Minor
Eagles Byte Historical Research
Pittsford, New York
585 264-0423
'dminor' 'at symbol' 'eznet.net'

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